Chomper Higgot

Well that imagined outcome sounds troubling until we reflect on the actual arguments made by Trump’s legal team that a President would have the right to order the assassination of of a political rival and/or order the military to undertake a coup and it would all be perfectly legal.

It seems the Secret Service are on he case: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/secret-services-prepares-potential-trump-contempt-order-hush/story?id=109542824

The opening lines of the ruling against Defendant Trump make interesting reading, leaving zero doubt what this case is about: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24628210-people-v-trump-contempt-ruling-april-30-2024?responsive=1&title=1

He’s not ‘a self-made man’ and ‘the people’ didn’t choose him.

Trump’s legal team. They’re winning right?

So you’re not engaged in discussion, you’re just name calling. I read the post, I liked it.

In this thread I refer to Defendant Trump’. This, in context of his criminal trial is the correct form of address. I do not engage in calling him or his supporters names. The term ‘Trump Supporter’ hits that happy coincidence of both politely correct and sufficiently derogatory to require no name calling at all.

Did he? Maybe, maybe not.

That’s a strange take on my view. The UK has its borders back (although loss of control over the borders was always a myth) and the Government of over 14 years that boasts of getting those borders back has promptly lost all control of the borders. And not just immigration. While you are being distracted by small boats, the UK has near zero customs controls at the southern ports, smugglers are having a field day and the exchequer is missing out on millions in duty owed. It’s chaos. And it’s all down to the failure of this 14 year long Tory tenure.

Things not going your way? Reach for the name calling.

There is little if any evidence that Trump has a campaign in place.

The maximum fine under the law is $1000 per infraction of the gag order. The only other option is jail of up to 30 days per infraction. If the Judge had gone for the jail option Defendant Trump would appeal and almost certainly win. The judge has wisely and fairly issued fines first + a warning that any further infringement will be rewarded with jail time. There is another hearing due to address other infractions by the Defendant Trump, but these occurred before the Judge issued his warning of jail. These too will be rewarded with fines. …… There is however a far more serious risk to Defendant Trump. The Defendant is out on pre-trial release, in several jurisdictions and under Federal cases. Defiance of any court gag order might very well be an infringement of the conditions under which he is on pretrial release. ….. Defendant Trump had said it would be a privilege to be put in prison, it looks like the prison door is wide open for him to stroll right in at his leisure.

I hope you never have to experience your children being attacked in order to get at you.

Why should the EU care? You wanted your borders back. Oh…. It’s always somebody else’s fault!

France does prevent many attempted channel crossings. “The UK–France Joint Leaders’ Declarationissued in March 2023 states that France prevented 1,381 small boat crossings, carrying 33,788 people, in 2022. This equates to 42.4% of attempts to cross and 55% of small boats being intercepted by the French authorities in 2022.” But you are correct hundreds of £millions of UK tax payers money spent in France, added to hundreds of £millions spent in Rwanda. Will we ever learn how much the Government’s failure on immigration is costing the nation? https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9681/#:~:text=The UK committed to providing,%2F24 and 2025%2F26.

Well not a good start, or rather, no departure from past performance of this failing Government: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/30/home-office-lost-contact-thousands-potential-rwanda-deportees-data-shows

JW’s were interned for not swearing allegiance to the Nazis. That at least is to their credit. https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/jehovahs-witnesses/#:~:text=The Nazis found Jehovah's Witnesses,to prisons or concentration camps.

Not at all Jonny.

France doesn’t send migrants to the UK.

Ireland can distribute asylum seekers around Europe. Not so the UK. But let’s enjoy for a moment the thought that the failing UK Government is going to make demands of the EU.

I’m guessing that’s another AI fail.

I believe a few Alumni are amongst us here on this forum.

I just did, this is you doing exactly that: Nobody in this thread has even suggested that the former ICJ President did not clarify exactly that. It’s not a point anyone is arguing.

Brian nobody in this thread is discussing whether or not the claims of genocide are plausible. That’s you engaging in your habit of inventing the views of those whose real views you can’t handle. I’m asking you when Donoghue left the ICJ [Feb 6 2024] because very clearly the information and ruling she is discussing and that you are relying upon relates to events prior to that date. What she has to say about events prior to Feb 6 have no relevance to events after Feb 6. The allegations of genocide are under investigation.

1. Who has said in this thread that the claims of ‘genocide are plausible’? 2. It’s been how many months since Donoghue was at the ICJ, is what she ruled back then still valid today?