Chomper Higgot

How can an accuser be ‘fair minded’ and why would they even be expected to be ‘fair minded’. They are accusers, alleged victims. For the record, I don’t expect the accused to be ‘fair minded’ either.

But not always. Evidence, testimony from civil cases can and often does get used in following criminal cases. A smart prosecutor can use this to their advantage, a smart respondent to a civil case may choose not to contest the case due to the risk of exposing themselves to criminal prosecution.

I didn’t put words in your mouth. I’ve simply suggested being fare minded towards both Brand and his accusers, let the court and the Jury decide. No need to introduce conspiracies, they add absolutely nothing.

He’s clearly trying to wind up the violent few on the extreme right. One dog whistle after another. Hopefully the long jail sentences being handed out by those who did his violent bidding on J6 will give others pause for thought.

Sometimes I hit a nerve, it’s not intentional.

Opinions differ.

I don’t think it’s an either or. I believe Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life fighting court battles. With a bit of luck attending court will be a chance for him to get out of his cell, if so, I expect an end to his delaying tactics.

I didn’t want to put it as bluntly as that.

If I express an opinion on a matter, then you are free to state that is what I believe. If I haven’t expressed an opinion on a matter your statements on what I believe wrt that matter are baseless, worse still assigning views to me that I’ve not myself expressed. A bit of a habit of yours.

So no point asking me now then. Oh… erm…..

Holding a insurrectionist President and his enablers accountable for their crimes is far more important than Trump’s financial crimes. If Trump and his enablers are not held accountable for trying to overthrow an election, ANOther President will eventually try and succeed. There is a direct line between letting Nixon off for his crimes and Trump believing a President is above the law. This needs sorting now,

It’s very possible to hold the opinion that Russell Brand and his accusers deserve to have their case judged by a jury in a court of law. To not regard Russell Brand guilty, or his accusers liars, And to discard conspiracies for what they are. You should try it.

Trump doesn’t need to do any of that. The court will liquidate Trump’s NY businesses and my bet that will result in the rest folding with no help from anyone.

The answer to who will replace this failing Tory Government will be announced at the election. You know that, or at least I assume you know that.

So you were hearing voices?!

OK let’s engage in some fantasy. How does this fit? Russell Brand looks back on his past life, even writes a book on it, he’s not proud but he thinks it’s all in the past. Then the wind changes, #metoo shows up, Brand at first states his support for the movement, but shortly after swings right and into conspiracy land, particularly focusing on conspiracy accusations directed at the press and mainstream media. Listen to Brand, he’s not stupid, he knows how to play his audience. Perhaps the reason why his first response was two fold, a reasonably expected denial from which no judgement should be made, followed by launching into ‘the press and media’ are trying to silence me. A defense he pulled out so effortlessly. To use your term ‘suspiciously’ easy. Now a question. Which is more plausible. A. The full spectrum of the UK’s press and media from left to right acted in coordinated unison to bring down Brand? Or B. Brand saw this coming and set up a narrative of him being a victim, better still, martyr to media conspiracy he himself alleges and which has been central to his messaging since he made his sudden swerve right? Brand is doing what that other malignant narcissist is doing, trying to convince his followers they can’t trust the press, can’t trust the Justice system. Its all rigged and bent, don’t trust any of it. Trust Brand.

So Trump’s wealth is reported at $2.5Billion. Q1. Then why is he begging his supporters for money to pay his legal fee. Q2. Why does he need to use a bail bondsman to raise $200K bail? Q3. Are you going to stick around to discuss what happens when Trump has to find the $250 Million penalties for this case? I have a bridge I want to sell.

What’s wrong with the media uncovering allegations of heinous crime?

Let’s see how the Tory Party Conference goes In Manchester on the back of all Sunak’s ‘gross vandalism’, U-Turns, delays and dithering. Is Braverman ready to make her move? Will Johnson’s supporters sit quiet and behave themselves? Is Truss ready for a comeback? Are there anymore U-Turns in Sunak’s hip pocket?

Actually it’s more self inflicted grievance stroking. A totally imagined grievance, stroked to keep the angst level up.

You bet wrong. I want Brand and his alleged victims to be given a fair investigation and a fair trial - let the jury decide. I never believed the allegations against Depp, Heard was clearly the aggressor. The psychologist who examined Heard and gave testimony at the court hearing put a professional seal in what was blatantly obvious.

I see the crack pot conspiracy nonsense. If Brand didn’t commit any crimes all those years ago he has nothing to fear. If he did then there was clearly something to dig up. Perhaps you feel Brand should be above the law.

I joined a Union at age 18. At age 20 I won a company bursary to support me reading Engineering at University. The company reneged on the award. My Union took the case up for me and got me the bursary I had earned. I would not have been able to afford to go to university without my union’s help, nor might I ever have had a well paid career as a professional engineer. I’ve been a proud union member ever since, always pay my dues, always thankful the positive help my Union gave me. Working people shilling for employers against unions, AKA class traitors, cap doffers and forelock tuggers.

Ford?

It’s not about Labour Refer top of thread.