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Your ‘strawman’ argI’m ent is the very same logical fallacy exposed by Voltaire ‘Perfect is the enemy of good’ and so very well expressed by Watson-Watt: Watson-Watt, who developed early warning radar in Britain to counter the rapid growth of the Luftwaffe, propounded a "cult of the imperfect", which he stated as "Give them the third best to go on with; the second best comes too late, the best never comes." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_is_the_enemy_of_good That the Polio vaccines was near perfect is not an argument against the safe and effective COVID vaccines.
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1. Please do not truncate my posts when quoting me, is especially when you respond with ‘I won’t deny all of that’. 2. Dreaming up future side effects without any evidence of such side effects existing falls squarely into the false claims/misinformation/scare mongering that is so characteristic of anti-vaccine arguments. 3. Your imagined side effects are skewing your calculation of risk.
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It doesn't matter where it originally came from, it has become an item of faith amongst a significant number of people who align with rightwing politics. But don't get hung up on this one issue, there are plenty of other whacked out anti-vaccine conspiracy theories, all obviously nonsense but eagerly believed by those who at the same time refuse to believe what science is telling them. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories#Myth:-The-COVID-19-vaccines-rewrite-your-DNA
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Rightwing Politicians: https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/state-lawmaker-promotes-debunked-vaccine-conspiracy-theory-on-senate-floor The Christian Right: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-evangelical-right-pushed-microchip-vaccine-conspiracy-theory-2021-9 Leaders of Rightwing Organisations: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/29/don-wagner-vaccine-tracking-devices/ Rightwing TV Commentators: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-viewers-bill-gates-coronavirus-vaccines-tracking-1004415/
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Indeed the COVID virus is not at all concerned with an individuals political persuasions and only with their vaccine status. However, political persuasion is a demonstrably signifiant factor in vaccine acceptance. Yes the unvaccinated are becoming statistics and those statistics are weighted heavily towards victims being followers of rightwing politics, rightwing news sources and rightwing leaders.
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Travelling in Thailand as unvaccinated resident
Chomper Higgot replied to Lizzy Duang's topic in COVID-19 Coronavirus
The simplest way to meet the vaccine requirements is to get vaccinated and you can do that as soon as your COVID infection quarantine is ended. I'm not sure on what basis you believe you have time to wait for the new vaccines, my advice is get on the first bus going your way, the later ones might not turn up in time, if they turn up at all. There are a number of safe and effective vaccines available to you, the safety and effectiveness of those not yet available is unknown. -
You have the horse before the cart. The then US President placed COVID misinformation at the heart of his policies, the US rightwing stepped into line and remain inline following COVID misinformation with anti-mask, anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine doctrines. The reason this shows up in what is a multinational forum is because, for good or bad, where the US leads much of the rest of the world follows. What US progressives do not have in common with large parts of the US Conservative/Christian rightwing is an adherence to science based policies in the fight against this disease. Your 'both-side-ism' is noted and recognised for what it is.
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OK I get it, you don't like the fact that political affiliation is a distinct indicator of vaccine refusal. The discomfort this fact causes you does not change the fact. https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2021-07-23/coronavirus-vaccines-highlight-a-deadly-political-divide https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02099-7/fulltext https://healthpolicy-watch.news/political-views-and-vaccine-refusal-rates-an-increasing-concern-for-policymakers-and-public-health-officials/ I could provide more links but you don't need them, just look at who the anti-vaccine posters are here on this forum, they are all right-wingers.
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Let’s be clear, people holding left wing views have indeed been caught up in the anti-vaccine misinformation. But it is rightwing political leaders who have formulated national and state policies based on COVID/Vaccine misinformation and who continue to propagate misinformation to bolster the policy lines they have established.
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There are two issues, firstly refusal or hesitation in accepting vaccination, itself problematic for a group of people whose profession brings them into direct contact with a disproportionate number of people suffering diseases and health conditions that leave them vulnerable to COVID. The increased COVID risks from these diseases and health conditions is well documented, widely known and absolutely something health professionals refusing vaccines are aware of. The second, addressed by the joint statement, is the use of one’s standing as a nurse while willfully disseminating misinformation. We frequent see references on this forum of anti-vaxxers posting misinformation that has at sometime been endorsed or claimed to have been endorsed by a health professional. As I have argued before, the possession of medical training and qualifications does not protect against falling victim of misinformation. With millions of people only receiving news and current affairs opinion from rightwing and extreme rightwing sources it is to be expected that health professionals will be within that audience. Even more so when the links to political affiliation and religious beliefs are included. However, a health professional is duty bound to use verifiable facts when offering their professional opinion. The line of argument that starts ‘I’m nurse and.....’ immediately invokes professional standing and therefore is subject to professional regulation. The joint statement makes this professional duty to not spread misinformation on any platform clear. I’m not sure if the governing bodies for Doctors has done likewise, but it is past time they did.
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Two highly improbable events witnessed by the same person can be described mathematically by conditional probability: Pr(a)|Pr(b) =extremely unlikely. I suggest you go buy a lottery ticket, then take your winnings and back those on a horse. You are having an extreme run of luck to witness two events that support your long expressed preconceived positions. Of course there might well be another explanation for these extremely unusual coincidence between what you believe and what you report.
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Coronavirus OC43 - 1889/1890 Pandemic
Chomper Higgot replied to Boomer6969's topic in COVID-19 Coronavirus
I think it is worth sharing, as the similarities with COVID are interesting. Maybe I should underline that there is no definite proof that OC43, which is still around, was the culprit. 1888/1890 Pandemic . I see this as glimmer of hope as it would show that we can indeed develop herd immunity, even without vaccines. But doctors seem to agree that to get there everyone must get exposed multiple times to the virus. Doctors also agree that infection without vaccination results in large numbers of unnecessary serious illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths.