Chomper Higgot

I would love to hear your thoughts on how this would be achieved: “Then you could lower a lot of prices in the UK” The UK, like the EU states pays the price of oil and gas as dictated by the international market price.

Putting that 2 year old interview in context for you Jonny, the discussion was referring specifically to the then near doubling of energy prices that were at that time delivering energy poverty to UK consumers and vast windfall profits to the oil and gas producers. What it was not, was any promise to fix energy prices beyond the energy crisis that was unfolding at the time the two year old interview was recorded.

Some broader information here including an explanation of who sets the price cap, the fact it will be set sushi. In 3 months and the prediction by EDF of reductions in the cost of energy later in the year: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/what-is-the-energy-price-cap/ Perhaps the most troubling issue component of the price cap is the standing charge and the higher charges to people who pay cash; undoubtedly many people on low incomes who don’t have bank accounts or are unable to maintain funds in their accounts.

That’s clear enough.

Utter fail Jonny. An out of date report based on the energy prices at the time that were significantly higher than they are today. As for ‘not released yet’, as if the right wing press would not be all over any deaths attributed to the means testing if the winter fuels allowance. Jonny, you’ve been trying for months to score political points by misrepresenting the means testing of the winter fuels allowance and predicting the deaths of pensioners. The deaths you’ve been predicting in your attempt to score a political point haven’t shown up. Now you act all outraged. Clearly you would have been crowing if you had found only one. I can’t think of a better example of hypocrisy and faux outrage.

In a sense I agree but I would like to see the root causes of endemic obesity tackled. Its costing the nation, the economy and the health service £Billions.

Frank, there was an Iraq war. NATO took no part in any military action in the Iraq war, the U.S. did not drag NATO into the Iraq war.

Here’s context Lou, my part in the nested quotes you responded to: Now point out where I mentioned Trump or indeed ‘felon’. Maybe even go back through the thread and see which of us mentioned Trump or indeed ‘felon’ first. Here’s a clue, it want me.

Perhaps the best example of circular reasoning I’ve seen on this forum since last Wednesday, maybe since last Monday.

Article 5 was not involved for the war in Iraq, NATO did not engage in military action in Iraq. Please revisit the facts of history.

It’s obviously something that bothers you. Though I’m not qualified to determine why.

Trump, the guy you were just talking about:

He is however indeed a felon, sad as that is, so I do understand the link.

Who said anything about Iraq? Or was that you building a strawman. You clearly do a problem recalling history. I recommend you revisit the response to the U.S. invoking Article 5.

And now on its way back up again in February: https://nielseniq.com/global/en/news-center/2025/consumer-confidence-up-two-points-in-february/

Thank you for your considered opinion, Its nevertheless driving growth and creating jobs.

Jonny. People on an income of £13000 per year are only poor if it doesn’t cover their cost of living. As you know pensioners receive multiple streams of income supplements that are not included in actual cash income, your ‘poor by any definition’ is stretch. You’ve claimed multiple times that means testing the winter fuel allowance would result in pensioner deaths. Its late February, do you have any evidence of pensioners dying as a result of the winter fuels payments being means tested?

You responded to a nested quote in which neither I nor Tug mentioned Trump. Although I do understand why you would connect felon and Trump.

So businesses in the renewable energy sector are booming, out preforming the rest of the economy by a wide margin. Consumer confidence is up, there hasn’t been the predicted job losses and pensioners haven’t been dying of cold due to the winter fuel allowance having been means tested. It’s not good news for the doom mongers trying to talk the UK down.

It absolutely had a purpose in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11attack on the U.S. when all other NATO members responded with support to the U.S. invoking article 5 of the NATO charter.

From the guy who’s always tossing the Nazi slur.

Homophobic slurs again.

Nah, not nasty Jonny. Just making an obvious statement that undermines the grandstanding you and others partake of in misrepresenting means testing of winter fuels allowance. The poor and elderly poor still get the help they need.

You do understand the difference between a nation being net zero and individual businesses being net zero?

Except the U.S. is the only nation to have ever invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter. Europe answered the call.