BobBKK

4 hours ago, Morch said:

 

I'll re-post a reply to an almost identical post you made on another topic:

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1033572-comey-says-in-book-trump-denied-allegations-of-lewd-behaviour-washington-post/?tab=comments#comment-12888487

Oh really these were kiss and tell too?  don't think so you are comparing apples and oranges but nice try

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

The case in question involved a legal Permanent Resident.

Fair point I had not read it thoroughly enough.

14 minutes ago, Credo said:

 

Deportation is a legal process.   First the person needs to be eligible for deportation, including showing that there is no compelling reason for not deporting, there is also a series of hearings before there is an order for deportation.   The country where they are being deported to also has to agree to accept them (some countries simply won't).

 

In this situation, the law that the Supreme Court was looking at was considered to be to vague to be used as the grounds for deportation.   That is all that Court looked at.   I doubt they care one way or the other if he is deported, but they do care that it is done legally and the applicable laws are clear.   

 

 

Good points but if they are 'illegal' then they must have a country of birth to which they are citizens and that's where they belong. Personally I don't really get all this protectionism of someone who is somewhere illegally. The law should be exacted without bias nor favour. Either they have the docs to be in the USA or they do not and if they are convicted for a felony it's a no brainer.

Prayut "I'm not good at politics"  that is true but he's good at coups so if this doesn't work just have number 23.

This is IMPOSSIBLE as Thais do not go with prostitutes and, obviously, this was a misunderstanding and a PLOT to hurt Thai hearts.  

Come to Philippines like I do EVERY Songkran.

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Ergo how? I didn't "support" any such thing. Not your friend, and if you're not interested in insults, don't go there.

I suggest we stop this ping pong as you embarrass yourself.

9 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

No, it isn't clear. You're saying that it's clear, and that doesn't make it so.

 

 

You obviously don't get it. What you posted refers to human rights. It specifically refers to individual rights of persons. There is nothing in this which implies a direct application to Governments and countries as a whole.

 

Work on your petty insults, as well as on your lacking comprehension skills.

Ergo you conversely support 'guilty until proven innocent'... well done and I would suggest you leave out the insults friend

1 minute ago, Gruff said:

Yes interesting but 50 plus years ago the extended family had a similarly important role in the UK. Not all progress or modernsation ? is benefical. If you don't know about alternatives or learn from others though you cannot make an informed option about the best way forward

That's true and the growth of the social welfare culture over that 50 years, in developed countries, must have had an impact. Probably best is the 'Middle Way' of family/friends love and compassion and the financial, social support (paid for over ones career by deductions).

1 minute ago, kenk24 said:

Agreed - - many ask me the same question too... but I would say from what I have seen, the family does a better job of 'looking out' - than the cold arm of any government... from what I see, it can go beyond kids. If anyone in my extended family is in the hospital there can be as many as 20 people nearby to help out. I have seen this too and true for expats as well. 

 

When my infant niece was in a coma, there were always 2 people at her bedside, 24/7 - - and several others nearby to switch on and off, to watch the ventilator that was keeping her alive, to be there for her. I was the driver, ferrying family members back and forth to the hospital 2 hours away. Each time I would arrive back in the village, there would be a crowd of at least 20 people awaiting my arrival with fresh clothing and food prepared to bring back for the others. 

 

As to unemployment insurance - when younger sister was laid off in Bkk - she came home to the village. Roll out another mat, food is plentiful and she was there to help with everything at home. Not negative stigma. She was welcomed back and has the security to know that will always be true... unemployment payments run out - her family does not. 

Yes Goodwill can be found anywhere, thank goodness!  Humanity has the capacity to be cruel and kind. I'm probably a bit too cynical and happy to recognize compassion can be found.   

9 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

 

f you want to lecture us on the law, then it would be appropriate that you actually knew what you were talking about, because you are wrong. One does not  need  a court order or a conviction to stop a violent crime in progress.  The gassing of non combatants with sarin and chlorine gas is a  horrific act.  No one is obliged to obtain "permission" to stop it.

 

This isn't a common "penal offence" and the administration of proceedings in a case such as this goes is well past the stage of  "the presumption of innocence".

You conveniently  ignore, or perhaps you are just ignorant of the joint investigation by the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons that  found enough evidence in three prior chlorine gas attacks in 2014 and 2015 to prove that the Syrian government was responsible. This finding was not contested.  The UN Security Council Unanimously Adopted Resolution 2235 (2015), Establishing Mechanism to Identify Perpetrators Using Chemical Weapons in Syria The Security Council established  the Joint Investigative Mechanism of the United Nations and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which would identify “to the greatest extent feasible” individuals, entities, groups or Governments perpetrating, organizing, sponsoring or otherwise involved in the use of chemicals as weapons in Syria.  The investigation identified the leadership of the Syrian military and Assad as responsible parties. Syria was already sanctioned. 

 

The Syrian state  initiated the mass killings through the use of poison gas. The state does not have benefit of the protections you claim because it was subject to conditions. International Inspectors  have been blocked from  verifying  remaining stockpiles and manufacturing facilities. 

 

Your attempt to defend the mass murderer Assad by the inappropriate use the UN charter of human rights is like saying Himmler was innocent of mass murder because he was not convicted, Pol Pot was just misunderstood, and that King Leopold and his Belgian thieves did not murder  millions in the Congo because he was not charged. 

 

You are  morally and legally wrong and should be ashamed of your defense of a brutal state that is using poison gas.  You have the Corbyn disease.

 

Your rant misses the point. By who?

3 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

You got me there - - the old rose tinted line... sure, why see the bright side when I can choose to be a miserable whining wretch.. right? 

 

Not sure it is the prime motivation for having kids but agree it is part of it - that is the history of the species. My parent's generation in the Western World felt an obligation to look after their elderly parent's as I felt toward mine too when they became disabled... 

 

If you look up, social security is not doing a great job of taking care in some coutnries - - and from what I see here, there is actually more security in having a family who will always be willing to help - - at least that is the experience I have observed with my wife's very large, close, caring extended family. 

Yes fair points but my point is valid too. Many Thais ask me, because I don't have kids, but WHO will look after you when you are old?  it's insurance and the main reason in my observation. 

Naga obviously

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Depressed country?

 

Most Thais I speak to don't have kids for this reason. I guess we moved in different social circles.

What reason?  anyway cultural shift is happening but it's slow