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1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

There is a high probability that you are alive today because you and those around you were vaccinated against various diseases. 

 

 

There are no stupid people... there are only those who CHOOSE to be uninformed.

"This is your last chance after this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe."

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/ddt-and-the-rise-and-fall-of-polio/

14 hours ago, CGW said:

A classic example of someone who lets others think for him and believes the narrative!

No doubt you will embrace communism and be a successful member of the party, or first in line onto the train?

Exactly!!! Let me say that again. Wakey, Wakey children... time to grow and become adults now. Time to escape mommy and daddy governments sick little experiment upon you. Time to break free from our Stockholm syndrome folks!

Anyone who accepts compulsory or consequential vaccinations is a broken human being... and the excuse that you were socially engineered that way can no longer be accepted... time to wake up folks. 

Compulsory, or consequential invasive procedures, to your own body (vaccinations), especially ones that are un-tested means you are a slave to the state. And when you acquiesce in this way, be prepared for what is coming next. No this is not a joke. I suggest everyone reading this to check out the well documented, well presented Bill Gates four part series from James Corbett at the Corbett report dot com. 

Go look up the miserable failure of the attempted vaccine of SARS... and they've been working on that one for over 10 years. You're a fool to accept this one with an 18 month development and then move straight to experimenting directly on humans. 

All part of the divide and rule (divide and conquer) plan to keep America split. The multiple layer paid protesters are part of the contrived plan folks... there is a reason the so called "founding fathers" coined the term... United We Stand, Divided We Fall. 

My limit is 10,000 for my "expedite" fee ????

1 hour ago, IsaanAussie said:

Here is the challenge to all farmers. Farmgate prices have always been middle man manipulated low. The more inputs a farmer buys the less is his profit potential. All you can do is minimise outside cost. The industrial giants of ag run the game here and globally. Before I leave this mortal coil I would like to poke them in the eye just once. I would get even more satisfaction by dropping farmgate prices and still increasing profit.

Hellboy's wife seem to be successful enough... and her results are similar to what I have been told. Now set me straight here please, to me the bottom line is if you can get per head profits of at least 4000 (minimum) I was told they are getting 8000 per head and hellboy's wife is getting 12,000 per head, then it may be worth the time and investment if someone wanted to scale this up a bit? Scale up... meaning take a bit of land and creating a "Feed Lot" operation of 10, 20, 30 cows? Worth the investment? Worth the time and effort?

3 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

Surin Sikoraphum

Surin Sikoraphum is not far from me... I'm in Buriram. My wife's grandfather and dad are originally from Surin. Well this is good success story. 4 months with a 12,000 baht profit is very good. I am going to explore this further it sure seems profitable based on what I was told at 8000 baht profit per head and now your story. Are you located in Surin Province? I sent you a private message... I would like to ask if your wife could get in touch, make a call with my wife. If she wouldn't mind educating my wife a bit on all of this. 

It looks like the Embassy Application Portals are open again...

https://www.cognitoforms.com/RoyalThaiEmbassy1/onlineapplication

Your answer is at your countries (your passport) Thai embassy that is currently taking VISA applications like this one...

https://thaiconsulatela.org/en/visa/visa-type/

Many of us DO KNOW what Thailand is doing right... but I will be censored by the TV Ministry of Truth if I tell what that is. No this is not a joke.

8 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

My wife feeds hers first thing molasses mixed with water and salt then concentrate 14% protein mixed with brewers grain (gut beer) & cassava (gut man) which has been fermented for 2 weeks this is followed with quality grass at least 4 kilos then a small amount of rice straw this is given again later in the day without the molasses and no vitamins & minerals added to the food but a small amount molasses poured onto the grass, the last lot she sold she made 12,000 per head she estimates the amount of mixed food by guessing there weight and then feeding 2%

Thanks Kickstart and Hellboy for those detailed insights... that's A... lot to CHEW on. ha ha!!

Hellboy, could you ask your wife, or calculate a rough price per head on the food she is using... that would be helpful to have even a general real world number. What kind of cow? And just to confirm, you say she "made" 12,000 per head (quick edit: I just realized this must be the profit margin). Does that mean she cleared 12,000 per head total profit after all expenses? If not can you estimate what the actual profit was? And did she buy these cows young and how long did she rear this last lot? Great stuff fellas... eagerly waiting for your responses. 

Non-O Retirement still not allowed in... that is effed up. Seriously. Think about it. There cannot be that many Non-O retirees out of Thailand right now. Why not let this surely small group back in? This just seems malicious now.... And I thought that the Elite Visa was not eligible for a work permit... see the chart. 

Wow. So Non-O retirement is still not included... and elite card holders with a work permit? I always thought an elite card was not eligible for work (work permit). 

6 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

I might be wrong but you're talking about running a feedlot

Right... a feedlot. If a guy can get let's say get 4000 baht/head in final costs after expenses (ROI, return on investment) this could be worth getting into?

Kickstart seems to be confirming what Brunolem said. Just need a final estimate of profit after feed is subtracted. 

If a guy can get around 4000baht/head total, this is worth the time and investment as I see it. 

4 hours ago, kickstart said:

As Brunolem said, depending on  what you would feed them5- 6000 baht/head over 4 months would be about right ,.......before feed cost are taken out.

So... can anyone estimate feed costs?

5-6000 baht/head over 4 months - feed = ??

6 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

I might be wrong but you're talking about running a feedlot and Brunolem is saying he bought some cattle and somebody offered him more than he paid, in your original post you mentioned paying 20,000 bht for a calf for that money it would be quite small so let's say its 200 kg which I'm not sure it would be you feed it for 120 days its brahman say it puts on a kilo a day its now 320 kg I know somebody just sold 20 the best price they could get was 85 bht a kg that's 27,200 take off food for 120 days 4,000 bht? Leaves you with 3,200 in my estimate

You're estimate here seems roughly correct with what I was told. Can anyone confirm my estimate here? I am just looking into this to try to educate myself... I have no idea of the terminology, cow, calf heffer etc., growth rates, food price etc., but anyone here in this thread actually managing cows right now is this reality? Please correct my example below where needed so we can see what is the actual.

Let's use round numbers for this example, I will use 100baht/kg selling price (yes real world right now is 85)
Buy a small calf at auction 200kg in weight (is this a typical size?)

20,000 baht purchase price

4000 baht 4 month food price

Total investment 24,000 baht

1 kg/day growth (is this typical? maybe growth rates are not this fast?) 

Sell this calf 4 months later at 32,000 baht (again using round numbers 100baht/kg)

That's an 8000 baht profit... 

At a growth weight of 1/2kg/day then cut the final selling price to 4000 baht profit?
 

5 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Actually, I am expecting a steep correction down, which is why I am getting out of the market.

What your thoughts, anyone please give your thoughts, on this news article talking about controlling the import of beef. Could this raise the price within the Kingdom?

https://www.mcot.net/viewtna/5f081832e3f8e40af145e777

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

We recently bought one for 49,000 baht, which we sold back 2 weeks later for 54,000 baht... and another one bought for 43,000 baht which was sold back 49,000 baht 4 months later.

Well that confirms the profit margin of what I was told. How easy would it be to scale ownership of more cows up to make more profit? If you can make 6000 baht in 4 months, could you manage two more cows for a total of three per year at about the same profit? Then scale that up to let's say 20 cows 3 X per year? That works out to 360,000 baht profit for the year on 20 cows... less any rearing costs, food/vaccines etc.?

I'm told you can purchase Brahman calves at auction Khon Kaen for 20,000 each. Keep them for 4 months and turn a profit of 5000-8000 per cow. Vietnamese transport to your place and then pick up in 4 months. This profit includes after subtracting for food with the healthcare/vaccinations done by yourself. Can anyone confirm this?