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6 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

I might be wrong but you're talking about running a feedlot

Right... a feedlot. If a guy can get let's say get 4000 baht/head in final costs after expenses (ROI, return on investment) this could be worth getting into?

Kickstart seems to be confirming what Brunolem said. Just need a final estimate of profit after feed is subtracted. 

If a guy can get around 4000baht/head total, this is worth the time and investment as I see it. 

4 hours ago, kickstart said:

As Brunolem said, depending on  what you would feed them5- 6000 baht/head over 4 months would be about right ,.......before feed cost are taken out.

So... can anyone estimate feed costs?

5-6000 baht/head over 4 months - feed = ??

6 hours ago, Hellboy75 said:

I might be wrong but you're talking about running a feedlot and Brunolem is saying he bought some cattle and somebody offered him more than he paid, in your original post you mentioned paying 20,000 bht for a calf for that money it would be quite small so let's say its 200 kg which I'm not sure it would be you feed it for 120 days its brahman say it puts on a kilo a day its now 320 kg I know somebody just sold 20 the best price they could get was 85 bht a kg that's 27,200 take off food for 120 days 4,000 bht? Leaves you with 3,200 in my estimate

You're estimate here seems roughly correct with what I was told. Can anyone confirm my estimate here? I am just looking into this to try to educate myself... I have no idea of the terminology, cow, calf heffer etc., growth rates, food price etc., but anyone here in this thread actually managing cows right now is this reality? Please correct my example below where needed so we can see what is the actual.

Let's use round numbers for this example, I will use 100baht/kg selling price (yes real world right now is 85)
Buy a small calf at auction 200kg in weight (is this a typical size?)

20,000 baht purchase price

4000 baht 4 month food price

Total investment 24,000 baht

1 kg/day growth (is this typical? maybe growth rates are not this fast?) 

Sell this calf 4 months later at 32,000 baht (again using round numbers 100baht/kg)

That's an 8000 baht profit... 

At a growth weight of 1/2kg/day then cut the final selling price to 4000 baht profit?
 

5 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Actually, I am expecting a steep correction down, which is why I am getting out of the market.

What your thoughts, anyone please give your thoughts, on this news article talking about controlling the import of beef. Could this raise the price within the Kingdom?

https://www.mcot.net/viewtna/5f081832e3f8e40af145e777

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

We recently bought one for 49,000 baht, which we sold back 2 weeks later for 54,000 baht... and another one bought for 43,000 baht which was sold back 49,000 baht 4 months later.

Well that confirms the profit margin of what I was told. How easy would it be to scale ownership of more cows up to make more profit? If you can make 6000 baht in 4 months, could you manage two more cows for a total of three per year at about the same profit? Then scale that up to let's say 20 cows 3 X per year? That works out to 360,000 baht profit for the year on 20 cows... less any rearing costs, food/vaccines etc.?

I'm told you can purchase Brahman calves at auction Khon Kaen for 20,000 each. Keep them for 4 months and turn a profit of 5000-8000 per cow. Vietnamese transport to your place and then pick up in 4 months. This profit includes after subtracting for food with the healthcare/vaccinations done by yourself. Can anyone confirm this?

It's amazing how many virologists we have here at TV forums. ???? ???? ????

More good news out of Switzerland... 

https://the-iceberg.net/

6 hours ago, CH1961 said:

They do not care your wife have a house in Isaan or you have a shoebox-condo in Pattaya, you have to follow the rules. Foreigner have to stay for 14 days in approved ASQ hotel in Bangkok. 

Why they should make an exemption for you? 

The exception should be the rule... this is common sense in a trusting world. Government doesn't trust you will lock in place. Because the government is already allowing "VIP" military and others to have these special privileges, but not the common man. Typical oligarchy rule. 

4 hours ago, Willy333 said:

The new form is up on the DC website: https://thaiembdc.org/onlinevisaapplication/

They seem to now require that you book the flight and the ASQ hotel before submitting your application.

I guess if they don't approve you in time or at all, you just lose your money...

I just went to L.A.'s website... apparently if you have a work permit Non-B you don't have to book your ASQ or flight before obtaining your COE. And L.A.'s website also still does not have a functioning online application button... they took it down about 5-6 days ago, but then I see it is back up again, but get the below message currently.

The entire world is BEING gripped in fear. 

Thank God for government to keep us safe. ????

2 hours ago, BritTim said:

Well, if you believe the US is successfully finding all its Covid-19 cases, it appears the fatality rate must be 8% (around 137,000 deaths and 1,516,000 recoveries. Does that seem about right?

 

Why should the increased testing be leading to an increase in the percentage of tests coming back positive. Surely, if wider testing is going on, presumably including people less likely to be infected, the percentage of tests coming back positive should go down.

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2 hours ago, BritTim said:

The total number of Covid-19 cases in all of China since the beginning of the pandemic over six months ago is under 100,000. Right now, daily new cases around the world are over 200,000.

 

In the US, the pandemic is spiralling out of control:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/10/florida-coronavirus-cases-icu-beds-arizona-texas. The US (according to official figures that underestimate reality) has already lost nearly three times as many American lives as during the entire Vietnam war.

 

Some less advanced societies are almost certainly headed for a much worse outcome than the US.

 

In Thailand, aggressive action was taken fairly early, and this allowed community transmission of SARS-Cov-2 to be stamped out. I am relieved that the government here is committed to preventing an out of control epidemic.

I work in critical care... I am a traveling critical care paramedic that has had to come back to the states due to the covid immigration issues. The national U.S. average of ICU bed utilization under normal circumstances runs between 60-80%. Don't trust me go look it up. I don't need to look up that statistic so I am not going to go find it. So a statistic of 83% is only a slight uptic. And I will tell you, that it is well understood that covid19 "case" numbers are going up because of TESTING, TESTING, TESTING... the RT-PCR test which does not test for illness (tests for covid19 genetic material only) is becoming ubiquitous. States like Florida and Texas have also revised how they count a covid "case" as anyone who has had close contact with a covid positive case, even if that person later tests negative. Also the docs I work with have all confirmed when they will speak about it that they are being ordered by public health officers that they must put a R/O covid19 diagnosis on a patient with even one symptom only. A dry cough, a fever, shortness of breath all get an initial covid R/O and then get counted. The numbers are now conflated. 

So this article is conflating an emergency based on a mix of USUAL data and erroneous data. 

20 hours ago, andre47 said:

Maybe you don't read the news....the "emergency" is not over.... and the government is deciding how to manage the problem, not you. I don't think that you have enough information to form an opinion whether there could be added more hotels to that ASQ list or not. There are even many Thai people staying abroad who don't can come back at the moment. Your ownership don't entitle you to any privilege. Just be patient and wait a while.

You have no idea who I am or what I do. Let me ask you this. Where's the emergency? 

Where is it? Can you definitively tell me where an emergency exists? Where is the disaster? Certainly not in Thailand... and never has been. Even when all the Wuhan Chinese tourists were all coming for at least a month before the lock downs. So where's the emergency? I happen to know... that you can go to 99% of the hospitals on this planet and you will find no covid emergency happening there. There have been a few hospitals impacted from the outset during the seasonal flu period and that is it. 

25 minutes ago, RollUrDiceNMoveUrMice said:

Folks in LA:  isn't there supposed to be a link on the LA Thai Embassy website where you start the online process & then get sent a list of flights (and hotels)?   Where is it?   All I can find right now is the online Category O visa application, which requires that you put in your flight booking in order to complete the form.  The woman who answers the phone at the embassy actually helped us navigate to the appropriate link on Friday, but then by Friday night 7/10 it seemed to have disappeared.  Either that or I'm a bumbling idiot, one or the other.

They have removed the link. It was there two days ago. Now the link indicating the online form takes you to a "Registration form for Thai Nationals..."

"For those who wish to return to Thailand  Please register online at the embassy online at  [ registration form ]  to inform travel plans and urgent reasons  ( if any ) in  order for the relevant Thai government to have sufficient information to determine the need..."

https://thaiconsulatela.org/coronavirus/

12 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

If you own your own Condo you should be allowed to stay there for 14 days

 

HA HA!! Exactly... I forgot to make this point. 

19 hours ago, vision said:

I used a company called Insubuy: https://www.insubuy.com/

I contacted this company... here was the quote. I confirmed this covers Covid19.

52 years old for "Save Travels Outbound Cost Saver" $500,000 in coverage/$250.00 deductible world-wide outside of home country coverage was $622.00 for 6 months. Can be renewed in 6 month increments. 

Same policy at a $2500.00 deductible dropped the price to $435.00 for six months.