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6 hours ago, thaistocks said:

Double CV19 test, plus 14 days quarantine -and on top you must in advance specify where you will rent/stay the whole time?  Leaving no freedom to move around? Its too draconian and sadly will be passed up by most all.

Not only specify but also pay - and show proof of payment. 

4 minutes ago, Forza2002 said:

Deputy government spokeswoman Traisulee Traisaranakul said long-stay visitors would have to present proof of payment for their long stay in the country. This could be payment for a hotel reservation, or the lease of a condominium room.

"The target is to welcome 100-300 visitors a week, or up to 1,200 people a month, and generate income of about 1 billion baht a month," she said.

 

As usual, nobody from the Govt. knows how to use a calculator or spreadsheet. 1 billion from 1,200 people would be 833,333 baht per person!!! Carry on dreaming...

And if I’m right about the ASQ rooms being the limiting factor we are looking at about 700 people per month spending 47,000 baht per day. Per person. 

I think the limiting factor here is the number of ASQ rooms. And when they say max 1200 tourists I think they are hoping for double occupancy in those rooms. If the tourists are single travellers they are probably looking at around 600 tourists per month. But there will be a few couples and families. So maybe 700. 

29 minutes ago, jacob29 said:

Plenty will jump on this, certainly far more than would stomach a 14 day quarantine that only gives them 2 months.

 

It won't mark a recovery in tourism, but could be enough to keep it on life support after the amnesty ends (which is little comfort for those bleeding money).

It won’t be enough since it’s capped at 1200 tourists per month. There’s simply not enough ASQ available. 

2 minutes ago, David90 said:

They went already down to 2000 US deposit. Hotel 30 US a day for a room + 30 US for 3 meals. Covid test 100 US. You get a 1 month visa from the embassy, when you are there can convert to 1 year business visa for 240 US if done alone, 300 US with agency ( next day you get the passport with no hassle at all)....Instead of inventing brilliant inventions the government could just look to their neighbours what they are doing and COPY please...

So this might be xmas and new year for me then...

35 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

from Richard Barrow;

What airline will fly in with less than 100 people?
Will they run a lottery as to which airlines can fly every other day?

Only fly into Bangkok and quarantine in a Bangkok Hotel?

Phuket is a no go now?

How many "tourists" will wish  a 3 month holiday when the average stay is still less than 30 days

 

 

Sorry, cant see this working

 

I guess they’re limiting the numbers because they haven’t sorted out the quarantine hotels and hospitals. And it doesn’t seem likely they can scale that solution up to the level where they can have the number of tourists they need. 

41 minutes ago, alyx said:

I don't think @CapeTown is suggesting anything (correct me if I am wrong ) but is the current lowest cost for any allowed foreigner if one wants to go to Thailand (not mentioning the different hassles and hurdles before one gets the OK)

I just thought the numbers were low, given the stories about how the coach/tourist class tickets sell out really quickly on the flights. Which means non-Thais are left with business and first class. And that the cheaper accommodations are not available when you want to book - and you really want to book something at that point since you have just managed to secure a flight. People also tend to take more than one PCR test, since the turn-around time is 48-72 hours for the results.

I expect the total cost to be more like USD 4500-6000.  

People are arguing about the percentage of Thailand's GDP to be attributed to domestic tourism. Numbers between 5% and 11% are thrown about. Is the real number above 50%? As this minister seems to suggest.

As a comparison, isn't neighbouring Cambodia currently saying that tourists can enter if they deposit USD 3000?

15 minutes ago, CapeTown said:

Flights - $900
3 weeks in a hotel - $1,200
Insurance - $500
Cost of 3 tests - $150
Visa - $150
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TOTAL say ~$3,000 annual overhead costs.

This offer would be attractive to persons with a first home who stay three to nine months in Thailand as a second home.

Are these the prices that you suggest should be offered?

3 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

i'm thinking they are going to tag on a 300K, in the bank for 6 months, minimum balance requirement

 

 

 

 

What bank? Tourists don't have Thai bank accounts...

21 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I always strategically get a seat right next to where the food comes out from 

I think the point I was trying to make with my anecdote, was that sometimes the actions of some customers, while correct regarding the deal with the establishment, will be detrimental to other customers who will not get a fair deal and will not return. So the restaurant would be wise to kick the shrimp-hoarders out. Or move them to the end of the conveyor belt. If only you could identify them when they entered...  

Great photos given the lighting conditions - but scary and depressing content. I don't like Bangla Road much, but I really don't want it to suffer like this.

5 hours ago, Victornoir said:

This doctor is probably anticipating the release of a safe vaccine. Tests are currently being carried out on all continents, so it is very likely that it will be available next spring, allowing the restrictions to be lifted.

So, who's the moron ?

While it is more likely that there will be a safe vaccine available six months from now, rather than tomorrow, we have had no information whether there will be any efficient vaccines. So what you are arguing for is essentially gambling. 

Shabu Shabu has the conveyor belt with the food on it. It's pretty annoying to be seated after a group of shrimp hoggers. Not a single shrimp reached my table the last time I was there. I had to get up and rescue some before they reached the selfish shrimpomaniacs. 

A lot of the visa types aren't free. Isn't that sort of the system you're already advocating? Are you just saying that they should be more expensive? And that the 30-day TV on arrival should cost USD 150?

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ticking Time Bomb about to go off here in the country as folks need to get back to work in some respect or another.  Looks like the xenophobia of foreigners bringing the Virus back with them is clouding some folks judgement.  Social distance, Hand washing, and personal responsibility go along way to ensuring folks stay virus free.  However, with the approach taken by the Government here they have created a false sense of security among people who believe that there are no domestic cases and those recently infected were infected by foreign returnees.  I was out to dinner along the river, and wanted a seat near the edge but was told not available for non tourists.  I laughed and asked him when the tourists were getting here.  He said soon.  I asked why no one could sit there again, and he replied that they needed to keep the tourists away from others as they had just returned to the country and out of quarantine.  I almost told him that we had just been let out of quarantine but did not want to give the poor man a heart attack.  Simple minded folks, still believe that its being transmitted by new returnees.  I hated to tell him that there had been no tourists in Thailand for 6 months, but he disagreed and said that VIP tourists are arriving every week.  Had to scratch my head on that statement.  Maybe he knows more than we are being led to believe, what with the French VIP's just recently flying into and out of Phuket, whoTF really knows.

I expect it will be very, shall we say, "interesting" to travel in Thailand as part of the first batch of tourists they let in.

1 minute ago, Tchooptip said:

I never said what you seem to want me to say, all I was saying in response is that if the goal is to get out of the misery millions of Thais it is not a few thousand or ten thousand tourists who will solve the problem.

I agree. The numbers need to be dialed up quite quickly.

3 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Ok, but you are misleading people.  You are giving the impression that Finland changed its rules and has opened its borders.  It has not.

Finland is  still  classifying countries as subject to Restriction 1 or 2 and maintains some  specific exclusions for non essential workers. Most of the world is excluded. Yes, people from New Zealand, Thailand,  the Baltic states, and the UK can enter. The number of such visitors has historically been low. The USa  and most of western Europe is excluded.

 

It is not a fair comparison.  Thailand is a much larger country with a significantly larger number of visitors. It is easier to manage the small numbers in Finland than it is in Thailand. Foreign tourism in Finland from September until December is hardly a big thing.

 

 

 

Finland didn’t welcome millions of tourists before, and while the weather is challenging there from Sep to Dec, which may discourage a lot of people, I thought I should at least tell you there was once a thriving business at Thomas Cook putting on flights from the UK, sending kids and their parents to Finland to meet Santa. Because, obviously, Santa lives in Finland.