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2 hours ago, stanleycoin said:
Ha Ha.
Singapore is the most boring place on the planet.
full to the brim, with foreign rich twits.
the locals are so far up themselves they use toilet paper on there tongues
Next years new law, is 12 months jail time for farting in public.
and the most disappointing Hooters i have ever been to.
A agree that Singapore, while impressive in many ways, is the single most boring country I've ever visited and lived. It's good only for making money.
Asians trend toward the boring and superficial as they become wealthy, though. With the notable exception of the Japanese who can be loads of fun, Koreans, Taiwanese, many Shanghainese, wealthy Thais (probably the worst) and Singaporeans are boring in its purist form.
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1 hour ago, Darcula said:
Stopped reading after this gem of pure fiction.
Seriously. How detached from reality are these people? In my experience, they rather seem allergic to order. People cannot even manage walking in a straight line or up and down steps properly without trying to squeeze 4 lanes of walking traffic where there should be 2.
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5 hours ago, bkk6060 said:What girl who is young and attractive and has her act together wants to live in the middle of nowhere with an old man who gives her nothing?
One of the best quotes on TV in some years.
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I would suggest that it is not expats but rather immigrants who are living on 45K baht per month.
Not every foreigner is an expat.
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Thailand has generally terrible IT people and even worse privacy culture. The law will be fine as they have copied most of it from other countries, and I'm sure it will be printed in a nice pretty book.
However, as always the case in Thailand, who trusts that people will actually follow the law and prosecute offenders fairly and consistently???
Nobody? I thought so.
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1 hour ago, SooKee said:While I disagree with the discrimination, to have the Chinese out of the regular queues will suit me just fine. Luckily I've not had to wait long at DM when coming in but if you do, usually because your flight has coincided with Chinese arrivals, you get a bloody headache from the relentless screaming and shouting from Chinese who seem to unable to communicate, even with folks standing next to them, other than at MAXIMUM volume!
And the queue jumpers. Had one little Chinese girl, maybe only 21 or so, try to jump in front of me at DM. I shoulder checked her and knocked her literally off her feet and simply smiled at her and the immigration departures area. I can play their game, too, if needed.
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Prostituting themselves (as usual) now to the Chinese after the Chinese hit them in TH pocket canceling tours and property speculation after the morons in the government blamed the Chinese tourists for the deadly boat accident.
Sad. Those guys in the photo look like they know it, too.
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15 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:
I stated what I think.
First, rate of criminals coming into a country isn't an effective measure. Let us say for argument's sake that Thailand has .02% foreign criminals, and Brazil has .015%. It does not matter, I am much safer in Thailand.
I do not think crimials flee to Thailand in disproportionate numbers. But even in the case where they did, which I am not stipulating, I think Thailand being safer than anywhere I have been in the world, would make that a non-issue.
I think criminals most likely flee to close countries, countries with no extradition (which Thailand has with the US), to large countries where they can move and blend in, in that order. Thailand does not fit that bill very well.
Lastly, contrary to what other folks are saying, if Thailand does in fact have a disproportionately large influx of criminals, I think they are doing a great, even amazing job. I do not see any dangeous, drug and gang infested neighborhoods being run by criminals forming etc.
How many fatal road accidents have you seen occur? But, yet, you do know Thai roads are among the most deadly on earth?
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16 minutes ago, possum1931 said:
Despite Thailands faults, I would rather live here than in the UK any time. In fact I would even go as far as to say there are things that the UK could learn from Thailand.
Sure, you would as is true for many. But, think about how things would be were you born Thai and arrived at an average life here.
We can say things like "Thailand is better" because, through no effort of our own, we have benefited from lucky births in countries that make us more intelligent and more wealthy and more suited to compete in a modern world.
As a decidedly average, working class Thai, we'd have a dramatically different view, or the same but with wildly different justification.
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3 hours ago, possum1931 said:
Maybe a lot of the Thai people do not agree with some Thai laws. If I was back in the UK, and did not agree with any of their laws, I would and did not obey them if I could get away with it.
I don't need people to sit round tables and make laws for me to obey, I can decide that for myself.
I understand your point of view. However, the freedom with which you make decisions as to what laws to obey and which not to comes largely at the privilege of a society that evolved in a way whereby most citizens obeyed all laws.
If our western countries had developed societies where everyone regularly chooses which laws to obey, we'd ended up like Thailand and many African countries.
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59 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:
I do not think Thailand has any more than other countries.
Those are heavy hitting criminals. Could lack of extradition also be another reason. Thailand is also rather large so it is easy to move and hide within countryside or cities.
So, you think that all countries have the same percentages of foreign criminals?
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2 hours ago, yellowboat said:
Allow me to defend Thailand. Thailand, before the simpletons in green took charge, was a haven for those fleeing troubles in Syria, those wishing to practice Christianity while on "holiday", those hiding out from those who would hurt them. That changed when the grand hooha's nationalist fervor and power worship took over. Thailand use to be a please of refuge for the good and the bad. Today the good, the weak, the vulnerable, the forsaken must go elsewhere.
I see your argument, and I raise you this: Have there been significant improvements in reduction of local Thai crimes? Has the government locked up any prominent people from its own clan, for example?
This is a far better question to ponder than what they are doing RE foreign criminals, if your intention is to defend Thailand.
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2 hours ago, rooster59 said:He spoke of internet everywhere, lots of food to eat, a cheap cost of living especially when compared to many parts of the world.
Sorry. Most Thais really seem to lack any introspection at all. What a ridiculous answer.
I could debunk that silly answer, but, why bother.
Maybe a longer interview would have him saying "Foreign criminals come to Thailand for the temples and good shopping." It's like their only external understanding of their country is the propaganda from the tourism drives.
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I know Thai people generally probably don't want to accept it, but a significant reason so many foreign criminals come to Thailand is because so many Thai criminals are in Thailand.
Like attracts like. A large number of low quality local people will attract a disproportionately high number of low quality foreign people. That simple.
Overwhelming majority of Thai people break THIER OWN LAWS. So, why would they expect foreingers to take those laws seriously?
When Thai people begin to show consistency of following their own laws, irrespective of money, power, status, they can then expect far fewer low quality people showing up in their country.
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On 8/3/2018 at 9:41 AM, webcrawler00 said:I just wish all expats in Thailand who don't like Thailand will leave ASAP. Why keep complaining and bad-mouthing your host country? Leave! I have been here for more than 3 years and I still enjoy Thailand very much. Some things I don't like but I don't let those things bother me. I'll live here for as long as I am enjoying Thailand and once I don't, then I will leave. A waste of my time to complain about Thailand but I still stay here!
You do realize that if YOU also dislike complaining expats in real life or on this forum, YOU can extricate YOURSELF and leave the country or the forums? Or, a milder form, just avoid the topics or posts you dislike.
Just making the point. I hope it's clear.
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28 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:I do not see how the Junta has anything to do with it.
I have been here before and after. It seems actually there is more progress going on in general now. Much more infrastructure projects throughout the entire country. GDP is up tourists coming like crazy.
I guess if one wants to totally leave a place because of some political opinions about the forced government, then go ahead. It has not changed my life one bit with them in power in fact seems a little better from my view.
I agree on this point. As an expat who is reasonably well paid, Thailand's politics should have nearly no impact at all. Thai politics affect Thais disproportionately. How many of us actually give a d@#n who is running the country? And why?
That said, there are some areas where goverment policy may impact true expats. Things like changes to the Board of Investment laws, changes to other business and ownership laws and changes to specialty visas like the SMART Visa scheme may have some impact.
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10 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:
Let's get to the hoity toity. There are three types of legally employed Western Expats:
1. Employees of government or multinational companies.
2. Educators
3. Employees of Thai companies.
Number 1s go where they are told. Number 3s are just here for the beach and pussy, otherwise why wouldn't they be working in their home country for far more money? They drift in and out.
I'm number 3 is left. The bottom line is that this whole thread is based off whining teachers who can't get a job anywhere else.
I hesitate to denigrate my Westerner comrades, but, yes, I must admit that, in my view, teaching English in Thailand should generally not be thought by most expats as a longterm career. It's something for young people to do until they figure out what they really want to do.
If you've come from a rich country, it's somewhat questionable to be working for what amounts to slightly more than minimum wage in a totally undeveloped country.
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Just now, Lacessit said:
I don't work. I'm retired.
OK. No offense intended, but guys who either have plenty of money and don't need to work in Thailand have different views
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guys who work at the lower socioeconomic levels such as teaching English
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guys who are consequential to Thailand in some way through their work.
If you are not consequential because you are retired and happy or otherwise, then you are not likely to be competing with Thai powerbrokers who really don't want foreigners on their turf.
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4 hours ago, Lacessit said:
After reading through the posts on this thread, I am wondering if I am in the same country.
1/ Just about every Thai I have met has been friendly.
2/ I have never been shaken down by a cop. The couple of times I have been fined, it was for valid infringements.
3/ While the Thai hunger for paper continues to bemuse me, by employing the right people officialdom can be navigated reasonably painlessly. If that's corrupt, tell someone who cares.
4/ Thailand is cheap. My cost of living here is one-third of what it would be in Australia.
5/ Thai laws on relationships, marriage and relationship breakdown are far more sensible than those in Western countries.
6/ I like Thai food. Done properly, it's healthier than many other cuisines.
7/ Thai women are like any other. They want commitment and support. Once that is given, and you have earned their trust, they will do almost anything for you.
It's easy to live here, which is why I find it difficult to understand the barrage of complaints. Perhaps my attitude is different.
If I may ask, do you work in Thailand, with Thais and in what sort of work?
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The fact is, Thailand has very little hope in this area, just as with road safety or perhaps even less hope.
As with so many things here, it's a cultural and attitude issue, not one of aptitude or ability.
Humans excel at what they care about. Thais, care most deeply about food, looking good, and fun. And, they are world class in those areas.
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20 minutes ago, Wallander4 said:
Have you tried looking at Bulgaria ... If you are EU citizen then you get 5 years residence permit after your 3 months. Daily living is cheaper and they have a great climate - try google Varna at Black Sea ...
Never heard any man say nice things about Bulgarian women... ?
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IT people even in developed countries tend to be challenged, but Thais take it another step.
You couldn't trust ANYTHING on a computer here. They are neither savvy nor concerned with the safety of anyone's info. Ever seen the stacks of people's personal info laying around on open counters after hours at mobile shops in Tesco ect? That paints a perfect picture of Thai attitudes.
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1 minute ago, overherebc said:Lots of expats who worked here were involved mostly, my thoughts, in fairly large fabrication projects when at the time no one else here, meaning most Asian nations, was qualified to to do the same job.
Over the past ten years that has changed in a very big way on the project management and engineering side of things.
Over the past 10 to 15 years those expats, UK USA and EU guys have been replaced by Phillipino, Indian and local Thai managers and engineers who are 'generally' paid a lot less.
I'm not saying it's wrong, it's the way it is. Strange thing is most of them live very cheaply and send most of the money home, not spend it in Thailand as expats did/do.
It will never go back to the way it was.
This is true. What is funny though is that those cheaper Indians and Filipinos and Thais are generally not equal to Westerners. I know it sounds arrogant but it's true in my view.
But, what many expats never realized until late is that Thais don't care about quality or excellence. They are happy with "good enough", so there really is no motivation to pay for quality people. The entire country is built around incompetence and mediocrity. No place for talented people.
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5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:not really disagreeing,
but why are the farang employed in the first place if what you say hold water
All sorts of reasons, I guess. I know a guy who met his wife while working in Switzerland. She's Thai and they decided to come here.
I know another guy who worked for an international company and had a choice to come to Thailand or Japan or Taiwan. He chose Thailand like many young guys do.
Whatever their reasons, I know almost no expats who think it was the best decision to move and work here.
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