Fex Bluse
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LMAO - what an EPIC SAGA for the movie! Now we have monks who can control nature, a tech billionaire beef with both an unsubstantiated pedo diver and former governor! Wow!
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13 hours ago, Artisi said:
Correct, the continual Thai - basher's should be sorted out and given long-term if not permanent holidays.
Guess most of us are guilty of a bit of banter and argy-bargy, bagging the BIB, ineffective politicians, the lack of rule of law etc. but personnel uncalled for comments, the generalisation of stupidity, thick, useless Thai's is way over the top and shouldn't be tolerated - ever.
But surely generalizations that are positive should be tolerated, right? Or, is each of us to speak only about individual anecdotes? Will make for a fairly boring forum.
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23 hours ago, Neeranam said:
Are you saying you deserve one for just having a family?
What do you mean by contributing?
My friend got, the order of the white elephant, for work done helping Thailand during the Laos border war. This, IMHO, would be a more appropriate reward.
You can apply for Thai citizenship if you are married to a Thai and worked for 3 years at a cost of 5,000 baht.
And, then wait for 15 years or so while it is approved for very little resulting benefit. He'll ALWAYS be a Falang. People will ALWAYS ask him "where you come from?"
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21 hours ago, cookieqw said:
I gleaned this from another article. Seemed to hit a spot with me !
Also Thailand typically does not have a 'blame culture', where a culprit must be found for any misadventure. There is a more fatalistic acceptance of things going wrong, less public clamour for accountability.
On the Guilt-Shame-Fear Index Thailand is usually thought to be approximately: Guilt=10%, Shame=60%, Fear=30%. So you can imagine that whenever they have the opportunity to place Blame (which goes with Guilt) without interfering with Shame or Fear (farangs are not important in the Shame spectrum, and, unlike many, many Thais, will not immediately respond with Fear (violence)), they jump at the opportunity. It's perfect for them. Blame foreigners as much as possible to use up our 10%. LOL
http://honorshame.com/culture-profile-thailand/
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8 hours ago, Lingba said:
need of upgrade???...a bunch of bs fodder for the media!...Thailand doesn't know how to implement what they already have in place...how can they possibly upgrade?
Maybe it will be in the Thailand 4.1 release?
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14 hours ago, Anythingleft? said:
The whole issue relates to money.
Any new or additional measures of safety and the following regulation and monitoring of said measures will cost money. The rub being that the vendor complains about absorbing the cost as in less profit, or the consumer gets it. If the consumer gets it then "cheap " Thailand becomes no more and other countries become more attractive.
As countries become more 1st world in all aspects such as road and travel safety so do the costs associated, no tourist wants that, if they did they would not be here they would be in any number of countries that already implement these, but at a much higher cost.
Tourists want cheap, cheap is available due to lack of regulation and enforcement of said regulation.
All the topics running make me laugh a little from the constant rantings that improvement is a must, I would say that pretty much everybody came to this country initially because it was cheap and the rules and regulations relaxed.
Enforcing the laws and regulations already in place is another point entirely and should IMO be carried out, adding new? Turns the whole tourist industry on its head and there would be big repercussions from that.
The only things that makes Thailand attractive are cheapness and easy visa/entry access, change either and you lose.......
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I'm not sure. Value should be the focus, not price. There is plenty of room for significant improvement in Thailand's infrastructure while being able to keep the value high despite the additional cost it will require.
Cost and Value is not a perfectly linear relationship. You can buy an expensive sh1tty value Italian car or you can buy a great quality Japanese one for far less money and vastly better value (excluding intrinsic value of having a "fancy" Italian suoercar).
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1 hour ago, rkidlad said:“First, we should not blame Chinese tourists if they are customers of a Chinese nominee tour operator “
Right! And you needed to add Chinese nominee because?
Last time I heard - Thais were in control of their country. They seem to pride themselves on it. Yet here we are.
Exactly. Thais remind everyone at every opportunity that Thailand is for the Thais. Yet when they can squirm out of responsibility by blaming foreigners, they can't resist even given the cognitive dissonance.
For all the significant beauty in Thai culture, this xenophobic feature distracts heavily and leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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3 hours ago, Ks45672 said:
I would agree with assessment, Thai women covered in gold or massive earrings with a fake smile are probably the ones that should be avoided but..... To each his own lol
Most of these commenters are just jealous. Typical responses when they see another farang with an attractive Thai woman
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36 minutes ago, webfact said:“First, we should not blame Chinese tourists if they are customers of a Chinese nominee tour operator – it could have happened to any nationality,” said Thaweesak Paekratok, assistant professor at Naresuan University’s Engineering Faculty
They consistently get it wrong, don't they? You should not blame tourists because ultimately it had little to do with it. They don't make the decisions - you do. The Thais do.
36 minutes ago, webfact said:“Look at air travel, those who buy cheap tour package do not cause any trouble. Airport authorities will prohibit any aeroplane from leaving the airport when the weather is not safe for flying,” said Thanapong, who is also secretary of Road Safety Policy Foundation.
Air travel is relatively safer solely because the pilots and associated other staff have been trained by or interact heavily with FOREIGNERS and because major safety events can have serious impact on TH ability to fly to certain destinations. Does ANYONE think that if TH managed its own air by itself there would not be regular catastrophes?
36 minutes ago, webfact said:THE COUNTRY needs to urgently improve safety measures for tourists, and Chinese victims should not be blamed for the July 5 Phoenix tour-boat tragedy in Phuket, according to an academic.
The fact that the professor needs to tell his own officials and the TH public that the tourists should not be blamed is a sad reflection of the nationalistic xenophobic reactions that plague the country. No reasonable, thinking adult would think to blame the victims. How pathetic really.
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Not sure. Alot will depend on the mindset of the parents. If they are mostly poor, the risks may be higher as they would be in any country. Someone will need to help them. A prominent, honest Thai lawyer (of which there are not likely to be many). As someone else said, for the boys, they are mostly too young anyway to benefit either from money or the advances of the girls awaiting them. Too bad
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"With so many accidents and emergencies occurring in and around the country’s territorial waters, it may be time for the Thai military to give higher priority to the battle against “non-traditional” threats rather than the negligible risk from foreign armies."
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15 minutes ago, eeworldwide said:
It certainly will make a great movie - and it's a golden opportunity for all the key characters involved, as each of them will have their own story/account to give of the ordeal.
The script certainly needs to be written by an excellent writer - my guess is that it will be a collaborative effort between a Thai writer and an established screenwriter from the west.
The great thing is that the story can build and pivot from the point of view of any one of the main characters - The Coach - one of the boys or even one of the divers.
Then you've got the lore of the cave itself - stretching back as far as time itself. The reclining "malevolent?" lady - have previous lives been lost etc? What's the history of the monks caves - and the naming of particular points in the cave system.
You've got the stories of the Brit divers and previous extractions, you've got the tragic Thai Navy Seal, and then you've got the governor being transferred in the middle of it, you've got the religious aspect as well - some of the boys being christian and others buddhist etc etc.
And of course - this all happened slap bang in the middle of the 2018 World Cup - to a Junior Thai Football Team!!
LIFE IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!! You really couldn't make this stuff up!!
This event has now become a major part of Thai History.If it's done well - the film can be a really great work of art, as well as being a brilliant thriller/adventure movie.
I hope the boys get proper legal representation - because the fact is - their families could be set for generations if it's all handled properly. Hopefully they won't accept a buyout for a couple of million baht each - they need to make sure they sign a contract that covers residuals and publishing/copyright.
You also have things like:
Thai monk superstitious stuff
Feud beteeen PM, Governor
Media curtailment
Near electrocutions
So many angles. I suspect problem will be that the local guys will want the story to be too perfect and free from any errors or negative dramatic effect.
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39 minutes ago, BritManToo said:$$$$$$$$$s
Here's my girl of several years still going strong. The gods blessed me for sure. No complaints other than spending my money like it grows on trees!
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3 minutes ago, Lungstib said:I fear that water based transport has been given the same leniency as road based transport. We are all aware of the massive problems centered around drivers who have never been properly trained, vehicles that are overloaded or unsafe, speeds that are virtually unrestricted and police that refuse to interfere unless they profit. Does anyone think the seas are any different? The govt has refused to take serious action to improve road safety and thousands die as a result. Now we are seeing the exact same result with boats. When there is no enforcement things get totally out of hand. Just like the van operators, the boat owners do nothing that would cut their profits unless they absolutely have to and it's only the govt that can make them obey by strict regulations and severe penalties. Now here they are going straight to the severe penalty after skipping all the regulations and enforcement.
Thais care about only a handful of things. Safety is not really one of them. The ONLY places where they are not lax is when being overseen by foreigners. So, tall buildings are generally OK as is the air transport (after they were slapped by the US and EU). Left to their own devices, they will let safety erode. Wonderful, generally intelligent people, but they have a culture that does not value safety at all.
And, the Chinese are not much different.
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"The government needs to invest more thought, money and time into tourist safety. It’s simple logic, "
Simple logic but not simple execution! People in this part of the world HATE spending money on things, like safety, that they consider unnecessary.
The" thought " part would require the entire culture to change which won't happen anytime soon. I will be surprised if they can manage to substantially improve even in that next 30 years.
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"Tourism generates 10 per cent of Thailand’s gross domestic product"
When indirect effects are considered, tourism is estimated to account for 20% and that is even before considering the enormous market around sex spending. A more reasonable estimate would be up around 25-30% of GDP but the goverment is too embarrassed to admit it.
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9 minutes ago, bermannor said:
All Thais I know who don't eat beef are good Buddhist and don't eat it because of religious reason, same (?) as Hindus.
Many Blacks in RSA dpn't eat beef because they don't eat "red meat".
I suppose it's a mixed bag.
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3 minutes ago, bermannor said:
Because it is much more expensive!
And sh1t quality. Not much better than chewing flavored rubber bands. Usually required to be swallowed without mastication . Not good for digestion.
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2 minutes ago, watcharacters said:
And please tell us where you came up with this gem?
"all older People"? " horrific quality, chewy meat might be OK for many. "?
Are you serious? Please edit with a Big smiley face.
Sorry not all but most. It's a natural aging process. If the average age of farangs discussing this topic was 30 years younger, the opinions would be dramatically different even just on account of them being able to properly taste and smell. Lol
I'm one of the older gentleman
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30 minutes ago, poanoi said:
i havnt asked any hindu, but the thais i asked
claimed it to be due to big animal
The reasons are mixed, but generally Thais have no problem eating beef except that they do not eat much of it.
This thread provides some insight.
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4 hours ago, bkk6060 said:
If you buy good quality meat sauce is not needed. Some of the top steak houses in the world have no sauce.
I agree. There are a few South American (Argentinian, Brazilian) steakhouses in Bangkok. Generally no sauce, especially for beautiful meat like beef and lamb.
Where I would make an exception is in the case of what is called French Dip in North America. The "au jus" is great.
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Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue a 'pedo' in baseless attack
in Thailand News - Discussion
On a serious note, Vern will not win this spat. The unfortunate truth, that many of us farang delude ourselves into rebutting, is that people (especially foreigners) affiliated with Thailand are given a poor reputation globally. Everyone is suspicious of farangs who end up here. And, without judging Vern, his interview (assuming it's not editorialized) lacked tact and potentially sheds some light on his character and education level. Who would tell Elon Musk to "shove it up his #$$"?
Many of us won't accept that Thailand is not well-regarded by outsiders (for mostly good reasons). I avoid telling anyone that I have been based here as not doing so would open me up to unnecessary attacks.