problemfarang

hi

i had F too before now im using non-b instead of F. Im still working with Royal Thai Airforce.

yes, F has lot of great advantages but not always. I dont think you can come back via land border. Most likely you need to fly out and stay there for a week then can come back or apply for a TR visa there and come back. 

What i did is left thailand and got a new TR visa. and had no problem entering BUT this was really many years ago. So its still can i cannot be sure.

good luck

22 minutes ago, RB7829 said:

I hope is just " one " unlucky day here in Thailand... You know... already  try Philippines and I don't like so much ... But when I come here in Pattaya, post COVID, everything changed...

 

Chinese and Russian everywhere, cars everywhere... Not easy to find a good condo with a good price... And then immigration treath you like a s.....  Noooo this is not fine...

 

Really I try to get this visa , maybe with a agent ...

 

But "if" cannot and I have MANY unlucky days... I quit ( I don't want to go back in my country)

 

If I'm not welcome in Thailand... .... Goodbye 

 

 

well.. every one in this post said you can and it was some kind of unlucky day. 

If i were you i would try again with some kind of different paper from the hotel? or new printed version of it? 

i totally agree with Chinese and Russians thing. Thats why IO takes things seriously.. 

good luck

15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP seems to have entered on visa exempt or tourist visa and subsequently applying for non O retirement.

A TM30 should have been accepted. 

 

Unfortunately he is dealing with mad hatter immigration office AKA Jomtien.

 

Read BritTim post above.

Your post is not helpful. 

Hmm.. so why the IO didnt do then? Was it OP's unlucky day? 

If a hotel tm30 is enough and have examples showing this then i think IO should quit and get a new one

5 hours ago, RB7829 said:

Is not extension ... is first time application

so, do you think what i wrote will be difficult or the IO will think different even though its your first extension. Will it still make sense for IO that you will live in a hotel in your retirement?

With all respect to your life and living style it very makes sense that IO didnt accept your immigrant extension. For the IO it doesnt make sense that an immigrant is/can live in a hotel for the rest of his retirement life instead of can rent a house or condo with more cheaper rent or else. 

I suggest using mobile app.

so easy and works perfect

if its under consideration doesnt it mean that you already gave them all the documents and they already checked them?

if so, i dont think you need to give or show them anything. Just go there and get your extension..

but if you want to play safe just prepare all the same documents you alredy gave them. I would take my wife with me for sure.

all government buildings are off due to songkran holiday

most likely IOs too

41 minutes ago, PleaseTypeSlow4me said:

This is why they want me to cancel NOW.   Hold up.........OK, let's say my school gives me a termination letter in a timely fashion (it is vacation for everyone now, all I can do is message them and then go to school tomorrow to see if anyone is around).   If they put a date of say the 28th of April I can do the paperwork in another province?  I still thought I had to go to my current immigration office, cancel my extension first, etc......but are you saying with this termination letter I can simply drop off my work permit and leave?

 

I gotta be honest, I plan on doing it all like before and not take any chances, but I am curious to see what my options are.  Maybe they can send me this termination letter next week (say they are on vacation) to my new school.  This is LOS, nothing will go smooth; however, it does always work out in the end.  

You need to get your termination letter, then go to labor office with a copy of the letter and give the letter + work permit. Then go to immigration and cancel your visa showing the termination letter. I dont think you can do this at any IO. You must cancel it where you extended. 

But like i said if you arrange your new school to get ready all documents, the same day at the IO you can get a new extension or continue. So no need to leave the country. I have 2 friends did like that. They said its so easy. 

Now.. for another province. My friend was working in udon thani and started work in bangkok. Now he didnt want to leave the country. Like i tried to explain you. Same day all done thing. So at the udon thani immigration they wrote a document for bangkok immigration. Saying he has all the doucments ready and he will do all paper work in the same day. He showed this document to bangkok IO with his new documents.. IO called udon thai IO and confirmed the story. 10 min later he had his new visa and so on. So you probably need to do something like this. 

If i were you i would make it clear with your IO now. Tell them the situation like my friend did. 

If you dont want stress.. do the proper slow way: go to labor office cancel work permit, same day go to IO cancel visa get 1 week for 1900 baht. Leave the country get your new non b and welcome back

I strongly suggest dont just leave! 

Good luck

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Interesting.

 

I was made redundant late 2017 (work permit and extension good till mid 2018) which was perfect as I was going to quit anyway as I was needed at home (family matters), collecting that 10 month redundancy payout was a welcome bonus !!

HR cancelled my work permit but not my extension as I needed stay for a few weeks.

I flew home December 2017, left the country with "valid extension and multi re-entry" in my passport, was duly stamped out without issue.

With family matters sorted I reached out to some Thai companies looking for work and was offered one to start after Songkran 2019 so I came back to Thailand on a B-Visa, no issues at all converting to a new extension.

 

Not saying your lying because each individual will have a different experience with Thai bureaucracy or maybe things have changed in the past 10 years.

Maybe because you left with 'multi entry' ?

Well like i said i wrote what happened to me and my friends. 

On 4/14/2023 at 7:43 PM, exfatriate said:

Thank you for the replies. As the Nakhon Phanom Imm. Off. has never exactly bent over backwards to make things easy - or even less than insanely difficult - I think a trip to pick up their own forms is advisable. (*heavy sigh*)

im also victim of online form download. Sometimes forums are not same. some follow old type some follow new versions. Its always best to fill them at the IO. you will lose only 5 min to do so. safety first

23 hours ago, biervoormij said:

I have other questions about changing province and hope you don't mind me asking on your thread.

 

Are there other things that need to be considered besides immigration?

 

Will I need to change my address for my driver license?

 

Will I need to get the plates changed on my motorbike?

 

Any other things that need to be changed?

2) yes you have to because the address on your driving license will be your old address.

3) many people do that. because you moved there. My friend bought a car from another province and the changed the number plate first thing. 

1 & 4) after TM30 i dont think you need to get a new extension immediately from your new IO. i think you can wait till it exoire and time to do new extension. Better ask this to your new local IO.

good luck 

When you arrived to thailand you need to report where you are staying in thailand to IO 

this is called TM30

you can do this via mobile app or going to IO by yourself.

you need: house owner ID copy / your passport copy / rental contract copy

44 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

When did this becomes a thing ?

Well im in thailand for 17 years and happened to me 10 years ago

trust me if you not cancel properly, it will haunt you

This is what happened to me many years ago and also happened to my friends in few years ago. Just writing this to tell what happened. I dont know if its still like this or not. But it was when happened to my friend.. i think 3 or 4 a year before covid started.

So he had a non-b work extension. He wanted to leave the country without cancelling it. He went to land border (not airport / not fly) at the border IO told him he cannot leave the country without a re-entry OR work termination letter from the work place. There are many reasonable reasons why they dont let you go. I will not write them and make this post longer. 

Now if you fly its another story. I read from this forum that if you fly no one asks questions. 

I would definitely go to the labor office and cancel my work permit by myself in your case. Because if its not cancelled properly it will create problems in your future job.

Another option what my other friend did is, if you can arrange all paper work and documents from your new school you dont need to leave the country. You can do all in 1 day. Of course you will need termination letter from your old school. What important on that letter is the date of your last work day. Its also your last day in thailand.  

Things you need to consider: in your next extension labor office will ask your tax from the last time. LO or IO may want to see old school termination letter at some point because you left without cancelling your visa from IO but leaving the country (not same things) 

If i were you i would contact with the new school asap and ask them to prepare all documents before your days out. so you can do all in 1 day without leaving the country.

if i wrote something wrong im sure other people will correct me. 

On 4/11/2023 at 11:08 AM, stoicccc said:

I don't understand why immigration would ask about marriage documents if I come back on a tourist visa or visa exempt? the NON-O visa based on thai spouse wouldn't be valid anymore

Especially if I come back with a new passport with a tourist visa on it

now i dont know if its the same thing for tourist visa or visa exempt. I came back with non-b work as i wrote. And in my EXTENSION she asked about my wife because she told me i left the country without any re-entry OR cancelling my visa AND i got a new visa type. That was the reason. There are many reasons i can think of why they want to see wife and marriage documents and one is: waht about people like you and me did? lol i think you got the answer.

im again not sure how to explain it im sorry but technically you didnt cancel your non-o marriage with normal ways but leaving the country without any reason. This is how it looks for them. In police they say dont listen or look at the people but the evidence. In this case simply all evidence shows you left the country without any reason and cancelled your non-o visa and plus your coming with a tourist visa.. 

so the chang wattana immigration told me ' we have to link or connect the visa' thats all the reason i can tell you. thats what she said. This might be to protect the wife? protect you? or people maybe using the visa till it expire because Amphue not inform the immigration?! yep.. you got it now. So trust me if you are not lucky they will follow it.

my mentioning this also mentioned by another post. just be careful trust me we were on the same boat.

On 4/11/2023 at 11:40 AM, DrJack54 said:

He is on the wrong bus.

Think referring to non O retirement. 

You are not 50 yet so that's not possible.

Your options eg tourist visa have been discussed in the thread.

 

An METV would be your best option giving you up to 9 months however that is normally obtained in your pp country. 

 

SETV is for quick easy option.

Can obtain from Laos, Vietnam etc. 

nope. im talking about non-o (wife) and what happened when i tried to changed it to non-b, as i clearly mentioned in my reply everything was almost same with the OP. so.. there is no way i confused with non-o retirement... if i was confused i wouldnt give the example what happened to me. 

I told what happened to me and gave him i think a good suggestion. no risks at all... 

suggestion:

get your visa out of thailand. do your forst extension using an agency. Then do it by yourself in your second extension. This way you will bypass that stage immigration will ask you to see your wife and documents. they dont need them anymore in your second extension

1 hour ago, Pib said:

I expect before a Elite visa is issued a person must cancel his current visa/extension.  Although the OP is talking a marriage extension below Thailand Elite Visa webpage talks the process to switch from a Non O Retirement to an Elite visa "which first requires the person to cancel his current visa." 

https://www.thailandelite-direct.com/en/blog/post/cancellation-of-non-immigrant-o-visa

 

I expect the process would be the same for a Non O Marriage cancellation which would probably entail the person showing he/she still qualifies for the current marriage extension which would mean producing a Kor Ror 3 Marriage Certificate and fresh Kor Ror 2 Marriage Registration to confirm the person is still married.   Or said another way before Immigration will cancel the extension they first confirm you are still qualified to be on the marriage extension which the OP would not be able to do since he's no longer married.  

 

Late last year I switched from an OA Marriage Extension of stay to an LTR Pensioner visa....on the day I went to get the LTR Pensioner visa inked into my passport at Immigration I had to first cancel my OA Marriage Extension of Stay which required the wife and I producing our Kor Ror 3 and a fresh Kor Ror 2 Marriage Registration.   Basically proving I was still qualified to be on the marriage extension....basically proving that with above two mentioned docs Immigration cancelled that marriage extension and then issued the LTR visa.

 

 

100% correct

what happened to OP happened to me 3-4 years ago

whatever visa OP gets immigration will ask about non-o and want to see wife plus marriage certificate with KOR2 (new date on it) like i said happened to me. there is no way he can avoid... it will haunt him

13 hours ago, chubby said:

what is the earliest one can renew mine expires in Dec 2023, but I will be in BKK next month thru July.

What paperwork do I need for the renewal?

I got it originally at the Bang Chak Land offices ,

dont know the earliest but this was the documents i did:

- passport details copy

- need non imm visa

- old driving license

- residency from immigration or from your embassy (eng lang is ok)

- health certificate from any clinic (150-200 baht)

- watch the 1 hour video online and save the QR code

that was it

4 hours ago, sandyf said:

Mine was due this week and I did it online last Tuesday, approval was immediate, well 2 minutes between notification of submission and notification of approval.

Can't ask for better than that.

yep, so far for me and many others it works fine... tbh im surprised 55555

my 90 day was on 7 april

i did it online 1 april i got my new 90 days report via email 3 April

i got a warning about my 90 days will expire on 7 april via email. i ignored. 

without seeing inside cannot say or cannot give any suggestions

plus what i see in the photos and what you draw seems not same place.. 

in the photo your house has an extension to left.. but not in your drawing.. 

at this point i strongly suggest do some google search 

purpose of the post?

anything about renewing your license? asking about docs? report?