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  1. 11 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

    No, only dead fish.

    The British see it as a sign of their independence, the rest op Europe only laughs about it. Such a small part of the economy, easy to buy-out all fishermen with the revenues import duty of UK material will generate.

    Macron is allowed to make some fuzz about it, to keep the British busy, and NOT thinking of much grater stakes like their "make" industry and their financial services.

    It seems not everyone in the EU agrees with you

    Brexit: French fishermen warn they will 'take action' if UK doesn't get a trade deal

    Laurent says he and other French fishermen "won't accept" the UK ending the transition period without a deal.

    https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-french-fishermen-warn-they-will-take-action-if-uk-doesnt-get-a-trade-deal-12166812

  2. 2 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

     

    20 % seems not much, when not knowing what is given in lieu of.

     

    When knowing, it may represent a lot;

    or than still not much.

     

    All depending from which side it is considered.

     

    Fair, non acceptable, are very relative concepts.

    It seems the EU has increased its offer now to 25% of fish stock so would it be fair if the UK retained 75% of its fishing stock and allowed the EU 25% of UK fishing stock

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  3. 55 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

    Do the British not know where their cod is coming from ? Iceland ! So, 1 Jan 2021: import duty into the UK.

    The fish in the UK waters are: herring, mackerel, and a lot of other fish the British do not eat much. So, 1 Jan: fish allowance nr + veterinary control of all fish the British want to export to the EU. Ask the Thai fish exporters. How long you think, the British fishermen can survive this ? 

    There is over 300 different species of fish being found in coastal waters around the British Isles including Cod

    https://badangling.com/sea-fish-species-guide/

     

    Let me ask you do you think the EU offer to the UK of allowing the UK to keep 20% of the UK fishing stock is fair

  4. 2 hours ago, Hi from France said:

    well this is fine, in France a lot of people were actually ready to pay the UK so that the country leaves ????

     

    not only did the UK did it, but it did it demonstrating how damaging it is... so that there are no anymore credible politicians in Europe advocating for their country to leave the EU.

     

    the "stronger together" message got through thanks to you ????

    We will see how the stronger together message is standing up next year if there is no EU access to UK waters for fishing

    Already we have seen the French fisherman state French waters for French  only No Dutch, Ireland has the same concern about its waters

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  5. 1 hour ago, david555 said:

    (The picture show it all desperation in extremis ....  ???? .... he send HOC in recess as a pressure tool.... ,  E.U. parliament just neutralize it with their ultimate deciding  not voting after Sunday midnight deadline..... fair enough i would say....) ????

     

     

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1373876/brexit-news-boris-johnson-eu-demands-uk-eu-trade-talks-latest-von-der-leyen-no-deal-brexit


    Brexit talks 'turn dark': No10 rages at EU for 'tying us up in knots' – no deal likely
    BORIS JOHNSON is refusing to buckle to "unacceptable" EU demands as a final showdown in the Brexit trade negotiations looms.


    By MACER HALL AND JOE BARNES
    PUBLISHED: 00:01, Fri, Dec 18, 2020 | UPDATED: 00:02, Fri, Dec 18, 2020

    Brexit-news-Boris-Johnson-no-deal-Brexit-1373876.jpgPrime_Minister_Boris_Johnson_convened_a_meeting_of_his_Cabinet_t-a-61_1598962954231.jpg

     

    MEPs have declared a trade deal must be thrashed out by this Sunday to have any chance of being ratified by the end of the year. But ahead of the deadline, the Prime Minister’s aides have warned that “intractable” disagreements over key issues mean a “no deal” conclusion to the talks is increasingly likely. They said “unreasonable” demands for continuing access to British coastal waters from French President Emmanuel Macron are threatening to scupper the negotiations.

     

    more...

     

    I wouldn't get hung up over the photo it clear it has been photoshopped from an picture taken in September and merged with a picture of a building with the eu flag

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8684867/Ministers-fear-Chris-Whitty-quit-work-drive.html

     

  6. 6 hours ago, Hi from France said:

    I think a deal does make a lot of difference  tariffs barriers are unsustainable. e.g. for the supply chains of the auto industry 10% is simply unmanageable

     

    now even with a deal that will suppress quotas and tariffs there will be a mountain of bureaucracy: 400 millions extra customs checks a year that will hurt and isolate the british islands

     

     

    right now Swindon has closed and could not restart at all in case of no-deal, Jaguar has closed on an off (right now it's off), the Japanese at Sunderland are very very nervous

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    (source)

     

     

    another problem with the deal that will be signed (97%-ready)

    • The UK had an overall trade deficit of -£79 billion with the EU in 2019. A surplus of £18 billion on trade in services was outweighed by a deficit of -£97 billion on trade in goods.

    source House of Commons Library

     

    you get my point:

    • in the area where the UK has a trade deficitgoods, there will be not quotas or tariffs; Guess who will benefit
    • in the area where the UK has a trade surplus, services this is a no-deal. Granted, services are more complicated than goods, but in this area, the UK has been unable to ask/get anything at all. e.g. in finance the EU can revoke the equivalence of UK banks with a 30-days notice. 

     

     

     

     

    another little-discussed problem is that is Brexit will create a more bureaucratic state

     

     

    In the event of no deal and the UK EU trade on WTO terms all vehicles in both directions will be subject to 10% tariffs

    the  largest single item where the UK has a trade deficit is on vehicles so I assume you mean that the UK will benefit

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  7. 5 minutes ago, robblok said:

    I am sorry can't read the article its paid for.

     

    But did the EU give in or not on this point ? I can't read the full article here it only says the EU was close to backing down. Does not say anything about having backed down.

     

    Personally I feel a independent arbitration body a good idea (if it works with backwards compensation for the whole period). So say 1 dec 2021 the UK breaks the rules and 4 aug 2025 the ruling is done then the extra tax has to be paid over the whole period. Otherwise such an arbitration could be used to have an unfair advantage. Using the time passed as an advantage. 

    I think we will have to wait until the end of the meetings but if this report is correct it would appear both sides made concessions to get to this point

    I would find it impossible to do business with someone where they could load extra tarrifs/charges without going through an independent arbitration body first

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  8. 39 minutes ago, robblok said:

    Did you not read the news, he caved he did not walk like he said he would. Please keep up with the news so all 3 are true. He was adamant, I walk Sunday night if no deal is reached. Not only did he not walk he also gave in during negotiations. 

    Its Clear you don't play chess sometimes it to your advantage to sacrifice a pawn

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  9. 4 hours ago, Loiner said:

    Got me there -  I thought JLR was owned by Tata, a bunch of Indians.

    Jaguar Landrover also thinks its owned by Tata Motors according to  this website

    Jaguar Land Rover is a West Midlands automotive company, a wholly owned subsiduary of India's Tata Motors.

    updated 

    06:47, 12 DEC 2020

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/all-about/jaguar-land-rover

    Haven't got a clue who Attwood is

  10. 1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

    Despite positive signs on the so-called level playing field provisions, Barnier claimed talks over a deal on fishing had gone backwards, raising the risk they could run deep into December.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/14/brexit-trade-deal-possible-within-days-after-johnson-concession-says-eu?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

     

    Not everything going the EU way

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