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3 minutes ago, david555 said:

yes as they consider their money from tourism …. we see how this evolves , seems Europeans re more left than far  right this times 

Yes the launched a campaign last year to entice Brits back

Last year’s Brelcome campaign, advertising the country’s 850km (530-mile) coastline, food and sunshine, helped reverse a 2018 decrease in British tourist numbers after a six-year boom.

https://www.visitportugal.com/en/content/brelcome

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Scotland voted against Brexit.

38.0% of the people in Scotland voted to Leave

4 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

Prior to 2019 traveling within the Common Travel Area required no record of someone departing the UK and then flying out of Dublin Airport as far as I know. Equally Dublin was widely regarding as back door to Britain, with no entry to the UK recorded - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Travel_Area. It's also still possible simply to stroll across the border between Eire and Northern Ireland in several places

Foreigners may not avail of Republic-North visa-free travel

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/foreigners-may-not-avail-of-republic-north-visa-free-travel-1.15120

http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2011/H491.html#para18

Passport exit checks begin at UK ports and borders

Data is being collected on all passengers as they leave the UK on scheduled commercial international air, sea and rail routes.

The government says exit checks are "predominately an immigration and data tool", giving a "comprehensive picture" of whether people leave the UK when they are supposed to.

The API system, introduced in 2004, already gives the government information on passengers flying in and out of the UK. The exit checks mean information will now be gathered on people leaving by any commercial transport.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32205970

2 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Yes, recent polls have shown healthy support for remaining in the EU from all member states. One look at the UK Brexit fiasco has put so many people off the idea ...... how surprising. Could it be that they noticed that we are on course to spend more on Brexit than all our EU contributions ever.

Businesses are still planning to leave right now. 

 

"Brexit is set to have cost the UK more than £200 billion in lost economic growth by the end of this year — a figure that almost eclipses the total amount the UK has paid toward the European Union budget over the past 47 years.

The analysis, found that business uncertainty had caused the UK's economic growth to lag behind that of other G7 countries since the 2016 vote, which means the British economy is 3% smaller than it might have been if the UK had not voted to leave the EU."  

........ (Oh I forgot, it is all Remainer's fault!)

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1?r=US&IR=T. (The wild left wing brother of the Morning Star!)

 

Surely the most monumental act of economic self harm in the UK's history (Possibly anyones history).

 

Why would Scotland not want to leave neighbours who can do anything as foolish as this*. The Darien disaster (Scotland's greatest act of economic lunacy, but similar to the South Sea Bubble) pales into insignificance. 

 

*God knows what they are going to do next, a bridge to Ireland? Surely you are joking.

 

Claim
One estimate of the “economic cost” of Brexit, £130 billion, now exceeds what we’ve paid in to the EU over 47 years.

Conclusion
There’s no definitive figure for the economic impact of Brexit. The analysis this is based on estimates the UK’s GDP is £130 billion lower in 2019 than it would have been had it followed pre-EU referendum trends. Between 1973 and 2018 the UK’s net contribution to the EU was £216 billion in real terms.


Lots of Full Fact readers have asked us to check a number of posts on social media which have claimed that “the economic cost of Brexit now exceeds what we’ve net paid-in to the EU over 47 years”.

While it’s difficult to put a single, definitive figure on the economic impact of Brexit, these claims don’t currently add up. They are based on figures which actually show the UK’s net contributions are higher than an estimated economic cost so far.

Other reports have made a more defensible claim: that Brexit will “have soon cost” or “is set to cost” the UK more than 47 years of payments to the EU budget. But these still depend on accepting an uncertain estimate for the cost of Brexit so far, plus even more uncertain estimates of the future cost. And even then, the figure at the end of 2020 is still slightly lower.

The claims are based on analysis by Bloomberg Economics which found that the “economic cost” of Brexit to the UK was £130 billion by the end of 2019. This looks at how much lower GDP is in real terms than it otherwise might have been had previous trends (from before the vote to leave the EU) continued between 2016 and 2019.

This “cost”, according to the analysis, is set to rise to £200 billion by the end of 2020.

To put that in context, the whole UK economy was worth about £2,144 billion—or £2.1 trillion—in 2018.

Following the publication of the analysis these figures were then compared on social media (not by Bloomberg) to the UK’s total net contributions to the EU.

Bloomberg Economics told us that the £200 billion figure it came up with was an estimate, as it’s impossible to be sure what the economy would have looked like if the UK had voted to remain in the EU in 2016. Many different estimates have been done of the impact of Brexit on the UK, as we’ve written about before.

We haven’t looked in detail at Bloomberg Economics’ calculations, but it’s already clear that its estimates are still less than the UK’s net contributions to the EU.

At the moment we only have figures on what the UK has contributed to the EU up to the end of 2018, so covering 45 years rather than 47. These have been gathered by the House of Commons Library. In that time the UK’s net contribution to the EU between 1973 and 2018 was about £216 billion in real terms (accounting for the way prices change over time and using 2019 prices). The net contribution was £156 billion in cash terms (not accounting for inflation).

Both of these contribution figures are higher than the “economic cost of Brexit” estimated by Bloomberg Economics up to the end of 2019. The real terms figure of EU contributions (the more meaningful of the two) is still higher than the “cost of Brexit” estimated up to the end of 2020.

If you estimate what the UK will have paid in net contributions by 2020, using the latest figures from the Office for Budget Responsibility on the financial settlement with the EU, then it comes to around £222 billion in real terms.

https://fullfact.org/europe/online-c...contributions/

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

You do see the question mark at the end of my sentence aye?

Yes and I replied

Bizarre Post are you not aware that the UK has already left the EU and and at the end of the year will leave the single market and customs union

I was on  St Kilda in Scotland a few years ago the people who lived on the island in the 1900's used to put messages in a bottle in order to communicate with the Scottish mainland , I thought the communications system in Scotland had improved over the past 120 years Maybe not

22 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The UK voted to leave. The EU did not throw us out. The EU's position has remained the same. The UK has stumbled around trying to get some deal because no-one defined what Brexit would actually mean. It was all vague promises and lies. Yes it takes two to Tango. The problem is one of the partners has flounced out of the ballroom because they think they are too special to dance with anyone else.

This is entire shambles is fully the responsibility of the people who voted for Brexit. So job loses on both sides of the channel are the fault of Brexiteers. Nothing to do with remainers.

No get out of jail card for Remainers, Their MP's could  have voted for May weak soft brexit last year instead they were to busy trying to overturn the  2016 EU referendum with cancel brexit or another people's referendum

41 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes and he was right.

Are you saying we are staying in the single market and customs union?

28 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I think you are seriously confused.

I suggest you go back and read my posts again.

No confusion from my side you clearly posted "Are you saying we are staying in the single market and customs union?"

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes and he was right.

Are you saying we are staying in the single market and customs union?

Bizarre Post are you not aware that the UK has already left the EU and and at the end of the year will leave the single market and customs union

I was on  St Kilda in Scotland a few years ago the people who lived on the island in the 1900's used to put messages in a bottle in order to communicate with the Scottish mainland , I thought the communications system in Scotland had improved over the past 120 years Maybe not

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The EU have maintained the same position ever since the result of the referendum came in.

It was May who tried to dictate what parts of the EU she wanted to keep and what parts she did not.

The EU told her no chance. She eventually put forward a deal which no-one liked.

Johnson can sit there and bluster all he wants but the EU's position is still the same. What has changed is that we now have a PM who is stupid enough to drag us out of the EU with NO deal. The governments own risk assessments show no deal will be a disaster for the UK.

But this is what you guys voted for. 

Don't forget 1,018,322 people in Scotland also voted for Leave

1 minute ago, david555 said:

meaning something for something …… so now brexiteers go hide behind remainers back ….. yeah not much leftover   isn't ?

Free trade deal is I sell you apples at market prices and you sell me oranges at market prices fair for everyone now if I add a condition of the trade that I sleep with you wife that would be considered unfair

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

You hit the nail 100% by this , all candidates shall like some free access for their subjects , nothing for free in any trade deal ….. 

So when the remain camp was banging on about keeping the single market, customs union and free trade your now saying they were lying as free trade deals don't exist

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

i used to always write down 3 months +, not once did i get questioned. It's not normal for the IO to focus on that field

I think they do check everything now in other countries IO check the documents that are presented to them they can't check documents that you might obtain or you might not obtain in the future for example most countries wouldn't let you in if you passport has less than 6 months before it expires, Now it would be great if people could tell IO that they planning to renew their passport in a few months so can they granted access on that basis

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

30 day extensions are normal

Yes but when you arrived at IO they look how long your visa is valid for and check that the number of days on your arrival card  do not exceed the number of days that the visa is valid for

14 hours ago, parafareno said:

even though I showed him money, ticket back...he still was not happy....he had to call my igirlfriend and interrogate her for 10 - 15 minutes...stressful for her and stressful for me... I felt like I was the worse kind of criminal.......I really wanted to just say to him keep the visa......and he also said what if thai come to my country...how does immigration treat them? ANd then you see hudreds of people going through immigration with no problem.....I wrote only the truth on arrival card....I will stay 63 or 64 days....when I go back....what I do here....etc....and the angry lady raised her voice...like how dare I come back here as a tourist.....I think they want to push for elite...so they get money......feels like being targeted....same first time I came last year....questioned at the check in why I stay so long....and you see all other peolple arrive with no questioning only me......how it will be next time.....seems like something is really weird and I will be declined next time if I dont dish out moneyz for elite visa.....maybe the lady meant in her head why would I buy condo, buy elite visa for 1 million better.....I think this is the logic.....

Why did you put 63/64 days on the arrival card if your tourist visa was only valid for 60 days

2 minutes ago, RoiEtDale said:

Yeah but never for this long and everyone with AIS can read the message in English or Thai it’s more like every single AIS customer not really a “one person” anything ????. 

Sorry to disappoint you I am a AIS customer mobile phone only and I am not phoning them and I know many other AIS mobile only customers not phoning them

3 minutes ago, RoiEtDale said:

AIS customers keep calling AIS keep their phone lines tied up I see we’re doing that now so far. Their phones are busy!! Keep it up thanks. 

Their phone are always busy I don't think your one-person campaign will make any difference I am sure HBO Max will be launched soon different pricing though will be more expensive

7 minutes ago, RoiEtDale said:

Even if AIS manages to stay in business True will be the top dog in Thailand again for sure. If we want to keep our service than us AIS customers better speak up now and make sure AIS is well aware of that. 

The only person that has that opinion is yourself I am sure many people will never use True again for various reasons

9 minutes ago, RoiEtDale said:

Right that’s why AIS stole the contract from True back in 2016 then because it’s “not important”? Really ????. 

True dropped HBO as they weren't willing to pay the price increase demand by HBO

1 minute ago, RoiEtDale said:

Yeah and HBO probably knows how important the contract is to AIS they probably just figure if AIS won’t renew it True would be happy to have it back so True can get all their business back again. 

And we can see that the HBO contract is not important to AIS hence the removal

Most Thai's I know they use the same Service provider that their family and friends use as they get free calls to numbers on the same network as for internet service provider that might be a different service provider 

1 minute ago, RoiEtDale said:

It has nothing to do with price it’s simply about keeping the current service as is. 

Either HBO wants to drop the service and it seems they do as they are bring out HBO Max later this year or HBO wants to increase the price of the current service and AIS don't want to pay the increase more than likely due to lack of useage.

IF HBO want to drop the service there is nothing AIS can do and if AIS don't want to pay more for the same content there is nothing you can do about it except move to a different service provider

Of course you could see if AIS will keep the HBO channels if you are willing to pay double that message will be passed up through their chain of commands

1 minute ago, RoiEtDale said:

They’re trying to switch to a cheaper contract probably because they don’t understand enough about western culture to know the full extent of the mistake they are truly making here. I was trying to explain to that to a supervisor earlier at AIS and I think she understood me and it actually worried her because it’s true. I was trying to explain how it might be a cheaper contract but it’s gonna cost them most of their customers especially for cable. But it’s going to effect all their business because who wants phone service with a different company as their cable and internet in this country? 

Haven't seen anyone on here saying that they are willing to pay double the current price to keep HBO and the other channels

I think most people use the service provider that gives them the best signal quality and voice quality for the area that they live in and use a seperate service provider for their internet service Don't put all your eggs in one basket comes to mind

11 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

oh, someone is not able to understand rather simplistic humour. 

 

Brits that have dimensia (i.e. memory issues etc.) sent to Thailand because of cost to be housed here.  They may not even know they are not in England since dimensia affects short term memory.  All they see is a bunch of Brits at the house / hospice and all the peoundple who look after the place are foreign to them (then there is a dead giveaway that this was humourous for people that don't understand - the rolling laughing face with tears).

 

Got enough of them here that don't have dimensia and have problems with foreigners ...

Suggest you post in the Jokes section as Brits are not being sent to Thailand, if your relative has dementia or alzheimer's and that person is deemed to be a self funder due to savings or property some families are choosing to send them to Thailand as the quality of care is superior to their own country, they have been welcomed by the Thai Goverment and more than likely bring more revenue to Thailand in a single month than what you do in 5 years and none of the patients or their familes are complaining only a few idiots on this forum