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10 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:uk is paying 10% of the budget
germany - us - france is paying more than 10%
Nato members committed in 2006 to paying a minimum of two per cent of their gross domestic product (GDP) on defence
USA 3.6% of GDP
UK 2.1% of GDP
France 1.8% of GDP
Germany 1.2% of GDP
Poland 2.0% of GDP
Greece 2.4% of GDP
Estonia 2.1% of GDP
Every other country underpaying
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Your Right to Know:
The ERG have this morning also published "Your Right to Know". A 7 page synopsis of the 500+ pages our uncivil servants had penned for us, which is (unlike the very lengthy version), in Plain English.
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35 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:I think the only who deserves to be called “naive” is the person claiming that a country will not protect its borders. How many countries do you know that do not erect and police borders? And Wasn’t that exactly one key issue of you Brexiteers, to control your borders? And wasn’t the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland one key issue (and prime target for attacks) during the troubles? And wasn’t it the creation of the EU that enabled opening that border? And now you wanna tell us that actually no one wants borders?
I guess that fantasy must come from the same cloud cuckoo land in which Brexit is the easiest deal in history.
I think this is fantasy "And wasn’t it the creation of the EU that enabled opening that border?"
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2 hours ago, AlexRich said:
It terrifies you, doesn’t it? The prospect of a second vote. That’s why you indulge in the above fantasy.
Its not Fantasy and it is everything that the remainers complained about the 2016 EU referendum
At the moment the only group i see quaking in their boots in the remainers so much so they want 2 leave options and 1 remain option on the voting table in the hope that the leave vote would be spilt leaving remain option winning the largest number of votes.
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4 minutes ago, damascase said:
What absolute nonsense! Member States do not need the EU’s approval and can organize a vote any day of the week. Keep spreading the lies, guys!
There nothing stopping the EU passing a law that states " Because we want to be seen as a democratic organization we require all member countries to have a remain in the eu/ leave the eu vote every 5 years
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Just now, AlexRich said:
The unpalatable truth is the Brexit supporters are terrified at the prospect of a second referendum, and for good reason. It will only happen, in my view, if the country is staring at a “no deal” scenario. If May’s deal, or some other deal, is accepted by the UK and EU it will not arise. But if it does arise it will be a mirror of the last one, with no super majority.
But we all know the remainers were unhappy with the last referendum complaints about this this and this so going forward any new referendum should be legally binding, only 2 options on the voting paper, super majority such as 80%/20% of the total number of electoral votes if remainers can't accept any of the above it would appear its them that are terrified at the prospect of a 2nd referendum on this basis , I sure most leave voters would accept such a referendum on the above basis so why not remainers
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The madman of Brussels
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31 minutes ago, AlexRich said:A classic case of two wrongs not making a right.
If thats the case I can see no reason why people campaigning wouldn't support a 2nd referendum using a super majority such as 80/20 and that only allows 2 options on the voting paper
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24 minutes ago, billd766 said:I know now that I was conned back in 1975 and I have known for a few years but it wasn't until 2016 that I was given the opportunity to reverse my vote, which I did.
It would have been interesting in 1975 if the remain campaign stated by voting for remain you will be joining a club similar to joining a
Timeshare In Perpetuity contract
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4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:“will allow”? The EU does allow that already.
NO it doesn't provide a link where the EU allows each country to have a remain or leave vote every 5 years
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6 minutes ago, AlexRich said:
Greece thought the same thing, but didn’t leave.
The people of Greece were not ask in a vote to Remain or Leave the EU
Brexit: Governments have ignored referendums about the EU before
From Ireland to Greece, countries have decided to completely ignore the ‘will of the people’, asked them to think again or think about something only slightly different
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8 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:Does this mean the EU will allow a vote every 5 years for all eu countries to remain or leave after all you are saying "because a new vote is democratic"
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60% Of Italians Think EU Is Bad For Italy
As the 27 EU members who aren't the UK brace for the inevitable fallout for what increasingly looks to be a bumpy Brexit, one shocking poll revealed that 60% of Italians feel that their country has been mistreated by the European Union. If accurate, that's several percentage points higher than the percentage of Britons who voted to leave the EU back in 2016.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-16/shocking-poll-shows-60-italians-think-eu-bad-italy
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41 minutes ago, AlexRich said:
It would simply be a reversal of Article 50 ... we haven't left yet, so we don't have to rejoin.
According to the EU the Uk will lose it rebate
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5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:
You might be the Greg in Bangkok on this cal that deals with this EU army....
Merkel: The vision to create a real European army // The future of Europe speech
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10 minutes ago, AlexRich said:The second vote will be interesting for you. Brexiteers snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
It will be interesting try to sell Remain on a No rebate, No opt outs, Adopt the Euro, EU Army, Accept anything that the EU says
The remain camp have shown their cards to the EU
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4 minutes ago, bomber said:its an educated guess which will have a good chance of being true just a case of how much personal gain was to come their way once they got their way.
Or you could say its an educated guess which will have a good chance of not being true
or as i called it out Fake News
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2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:Farage played GBP on the night of the referendum, conceding he had lost the good fight, when he knew through privately purchased polling that Leave had one. Why? He wanted GBP to be as high as possible to make the short more profitable. You can bet that Rees Mogg's investment business will be positioning for a no deal Brexit ... and he wants no deal to get away from proposed EU rules on tax havens ... another self serving politician. The other two clowns are benefiting from the support they get from 100,000 old reactionary Tory members ... they are positioning for political office ... Johnson being the main culprit, gaining a great deal of money writing for the brexit supporting Telegraph. None of them serve the nation's interest, only their own.
And still no link to support your claims or should we called it Fake News
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5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:Looks like the 28% is the winner - it's got my vote.
Just 8% of Brits support the idea of having a second referendum, according to the latest poll by YouGov. Added to the people who want to stop Brexit by other means, only 36% of voters would like to see the result of the referendum reversed. By contrast adding together the different Brexit options sees 46% of voters in favour of EU withdrawal. Nothing has changed…
Lools like Leave is the winner
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5 minutes ago, sandyf said:
I originally said "single export" and I have already said I used the top 200 figure, what exactly are you finding so difficult.
and from your own link "The following searchable table displays 200 of the most in-demand goods shipped from the United Kingdom during 2017.
Most in demand is different from Largest export commodities of the United Kingdom (UK) in 2017 (in million GBP
But at least both stats do agree that Machinery including computers: US$68 billion (15.3% of total exports) is the largest export item
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11 minutes ago, sandyf said:
The following searchable table displays 200 of the most in-demand goods shipped from the United Kingdom during 2017. Shown beside each product label is its total export value then the percentage increase or decrease since 2016.
Show 102550100 entriesSearch:Rank UK Export Product 2017 Value (US$) Change 1 Cars $41.9 billion +2.7% 2 Turbo-jets $25.2 billion +29.9% 3 Medication mixes in dosage $20.4 billion -6.1% 4 Crude oil $19 billion +44.1% 5 Gold (unwrought) $17 billion +9.3% 6 Aircraft parts $16.1 billion +7.6% 7 Processed petroleum oils $11.3 billion +23.7% 8 Blood fractions (including antisera) $9.7 billion +11.5% 9 Alcohol (including spirits, liqueurs) $7.3 billion +3.5% 10 Automobile parts/accessories $6.6 billion +4.7% Showing 1 to 10 of 200 entriesHappy, and as for origin, cars exported from the UK are classed as made in the EU, no doubt you will dispute that, and then try and claim that post brexit they will be made in the UK, ignoring the composition ruling.From your own link
The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in UK global shipments during 2017. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from United Kingdom.
- Machinery including computers: US$68 billion (15.3% of total exports)
- Vehicles: $53.7 billion (12.1%)
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3 minutes ago, sandyf said:
You are looking at the top 10 categories, and they have it wrong, second should be vehicles.
Cars heads the top 200.
The issue is remainers don't provide links to support their claims you posted"The UK's largest single export is cars, $41.9 billion in 2017 , and the country of origin will now be questionable."
Clearly this is incorrect as these stats show
This statistic shows the 30 largest export commodities of the United Kingdom (UK) in 2017. This ranges from machinery and pharmaceutical products to paper, textile and crude materials. Mechanical machinery was the most valuable commodity with exports being worth 48.5 billion British pounds.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/281807/largest-export-commodities-of-the-united-kingdom-uk/
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12 minutes ago, tebee said:
Just 8% of Brits support the idea of having a second referendum, according to the latest poll by YouGov. Added to the people who want to stop Brexit by other means, only 36% of voters would like to see the result of the referendum reversed. By contrast adding together the different Brexit options sees 46% of voters in favour of EU withdrawal. Nothing has changed…
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3 minutes ago, sandyf said:
Most of the large foreign investment used the UK as a gateway to Europe. The UK's largest single export is cars, $41.9 billion in 2017 , and the country of origin will now be questionable.
Now that gate is closing they will be looking closely at future costs and regulatory alignment. Every chance that moving goods from the UK into Europe will be become more expensive than as a member state.
When the next Airbus project hits the drawing board the UK should not be looking for a cut of the action. There is already a logistics problem and Airbus will be under no obligation to continue a problematic arrangement. Leaving the UK would be petty cash in the overall scheme of things.
Incorrect Mechanical machinery was the most valuable commodity with exports being worth 48.5 billion British pounds. Cars and electrical machinery came in second, at 32.7 billion
https://www.statista.com/statistics/281807/largest-export-commodities-of-the-united-kingdom-uk/
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UK voters should make final Brexit decision if talks with EU collapse: poll
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Can you provide a link please