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2 hours ago, sandyf said:

The brexiteers never did comprehend the concept of co-operation.

 

32.Where fish stocks are not exclusively found in UK waters, then, the UK must co-operate on the management of the stocks.50 Prof Churchill explained: “most of the fish stocks found in the waters of the UK are actually shared with our neighbours, be it the EU, Norway, the Faroe Islands or, in some cases, all three”.51 How the UK decides to pursue its general obligations to co-operate with the EU and other neighbouring states will be a matter for negotiations before and after Brexit.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201617/ldselect/ldeucom/78/7806.htm

Accessing the EEZ

35.Another fundamental change relates to access to fishing in the UK EEZ. Under international law, any decision to allow foreign vessels access to fish in UK waters will be a matter for bilateral negotiation and agreement between the UK and other coastal states. In the words of Prof Churchill:

“There is a distinction between what is said in the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and what tends to happen in practice. … as far as the Convention is concerned … if in a particular coastal state’s EEZ the coastal state is capable of harvesting the entire allowable catch, it is under no obligation to allow any other fishermen from other states to fish there, so it can take the whole of the allowable catch. Where an obligation to admit other fishers comes in—again, this is on the theory of the convention—that is where the coastal state does not take the whole of the allowable catch and there is a surplus. It must admit other states to the surplus, but again it has a discretion … but only where there is a surplus.”52

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

55% of the total UKs territorial waters belong to Scotland.

Still think an independent Scotland would not be welcomed back into the EU? 

If there is no agreement between the Uk and the EU regarding fishing I suspect an independent Scotland EU membership to the EU would be fast tracked. If there is an agreement between the UK and the EU on fishing Scotland will go through the normal  EU accession process How many years has Turkey been in the EU accession process

“Boris Johnson wants a free trade deal (similar to the one the EU struck with Canada) with extra agreements (like fishing) on the side, governed by separate dispute resolution mechanisms.”

Crucially, the UK is trying to avoid trade-offs, whereby for instance, the EU refuses to offer a tariff and quota-free trade deal unless the UK allow EU fishermen to retain the same levels of access to UK water as they enjoyed prior to Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1249799/BBC-news-brexit-bbc-katya-adler-boris-johnson-brussels-trade-talks-brussels-michel-barnier

1 minute ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

what the manure?

 

you must learn to read politicians utterances (what EU wants has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this)

 

she can sell some fishing rights to French and Spanish fish companies and still claim she is in line with OP

 

Suggest you re-read the original post as she has made it clear they will be no trade off or side deals link to fishing

2 minutes ago, TheDark said:

I wonder which side has the upper hand on these negotiations? The economy of 65 million consumers or the economy of 450 million consumers.

 

 

I guess if the EU/French don't get access to UK fishing waters they can also sail to Japan and Fish there, EU consumers would have to get use to eating different types of fish

I would negotiate Fishing last, the EU and mainly the French want Fishing to be negotiated 1st and then they can say no to everything else
If Fishing is negotiated last they that puts them in a diffcult position as saying no to everything else may put their fishing access at risk

2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

yes,

and some frogs in UK waters does not necessarily mean that you have traded away "your fishing"

 

Yes it does as the EU have already stated they want the same access as they currently have

and the French have already stated if their is no agreement on Fish there is no agreement on everything

3 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

read the OP carefully,

having frogs and others fishing in UK waters is within what the lass is stating

 

No she isn't she stated 

“We are not going to trade away our fishing in a deal with the EU or any other negotiating partner for that matter,” Truss said. “We are going to get a deal with the EU that does not involve selling out our fishing.”

The EU wants to link fishing rights to part of the main trade agreement

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

The UK exports 75% of its fish. A no deal Brexit will make all those fish more expensive f

Some 666,000 tonnes of fish was farmed and caught in the UK in 2014, of which 499,000 tonnes (75 per cent) were exported, and 66 per cent of those exports went to the EU. The UK also imported 721,000 tonnes of fish, 32 per cent of which came from the EU.

Britain imports big quantities of prawns and tuna from the EU, while its main fish export is mackerel.

If the UK eats more mackerel and less prawns and tuna mackerel will be cheaper

9 hours ago, Logosone said:

 

Maybe you didn't understand the 1st time, the UK has a population of 66 million, most of whom do not work, the UK has long ago maxed out its credit card and has among the largest debt mountains any country in the world. It has an ageing population that is used to getting freebies by the state. As are the unemployed. As are the millions of users of the NHS. The UK is addicted to debt. The idea of the UK being a low tax haven is ludicrous. It just won't happen. For the simple reason that the UK is not a teeny tiny toy country that can afford the low tax route, the UK needs its tax revenues to sustain its creaking free hands out edifice which is bursting at the seams. The UK already has one of the worst health services in the western world, imagine if it cut off the tax funding of the NHS. There'd be riots in the streets.

 

Kindly stop espousing full on nonsense ideas like the UK becoming a tax haven. It will never happen.

The EU already has 7 member states that the EU have classed as Low tax Havens, I suspect they don't want the UK to become a Low tax haven as the UK would be outside of EU control and could offer direct competition to these countries

Seven EU countries (Belgium, Cyprus, Hungary, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta and The Netherlands) display traits of a tax haven and facilitate aggressive tax planning;

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190225IPR28727/tax-crimes-special-committee-calls-for-a-european-financial-police-force

PS UK currently has 33 million people in work or 76.5% of the working population

7 hours ago, Logosone said:

 

Maybe you didn't understand the 1st time, the UK has a population of 66 million, most of whom do not work, the UK has long ago maxed out its credit card and has among the largest debt mountains any country in the world. It has an ageing population that is used to getting freebies by the state. As are the unemployed. As are the millions of users of the NHS. The UK is addicted to debt. The idea of the UK being a low tax haven is ludicrous. It just won't happen. For the simple reason that the UK is not a teeny tiny toy country that can afford the low tax route, the UK needs its tax revenues to sustain its creaking free hands out edifice which is bursting at the seams. The UK already has one of the worst health services in the western world, imagine if it cut off the tax funding of the NHS. There'd be riots in the streets.

 

Kindly stop espousing full on nonsense ideas like the UK becoming a tax haven. It will never happen.

Clearly you didnt read my post correctly

8 minutes ago, TheDark said:

No.  “Singapore-on-Thames” is shorthand for Britain becoming a low-tax, lightly regulated economy that can out-compete the sclerotic, over-regulated eurozone from a strategic position only 20 miles or so offshore. is London. The rest are periferias for Jacob I and his ERG millionaire and higher status supporters. You should know this by now. 

Incorrect again as I have already stated  “Singapore-on-Thames” is shorthand for Britain becoming a low-tax, lightly regulated economy that can out-compete the sclerotic, over-regulated eurozone from a strategic position only 20 miles or so offshore.

Now if you believe the term  relates to London only please provide a link to support your claim

3 minutes ago, TheDark said:

What would be the benefit for City of London, to include the rest of England to become part of the Singapore on Thames? 

 

Why should Citystate London drag along all the burden of the rest of England is as it could do so much better without the rest of England? Why should great people of London keep on giving handouts to the rest of England?

 

For a commoner it's hard to think like Jacob I and ERG. But when you think like them, you'll see the logic.

Maybe you didn't understand the 1st time

  “Singapore-on-Thames” is shorthand for Britain becoming a low-tax, lightly regulated economy that can out-compete the sclerotic, over-regulated eurozone from a strategic position only 20 miles or so offshore.

Which means, England, Wales,Scotland and Northern Ireland  

58 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Cheer I'll tell her she must have gone to one that doesn't issue them she thinks the PO dont do them 

Post Office checker to locate which PO issues IDP

If a person has only UK paper license they will need to bring their passport for proof of id

https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identity/international-driving-permit#bf-full-width

3 minutes ago, canopy said:

  

This year the 1000km roadster is expected to begin production. Sets a new standard in range and performance. 

 

I guess we will have to wait and see as some experts dispute the 1000km figure

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-24/tesla-s-newest-promises-break-the-laws-of-batteries

6 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

Here they say you can install a type 3 at home: https://www.deltathailand.com/th/blog-detail/1/21/Why-Delta-EV-Charging-Solutions-Are-Thailand

 

It's still early for EV in Thailand if you need to drive long range but it might come faster than expected. 

The Delta’s AC Mini Plus EV Charger (7.36kW) appears to be  similar k.w to Tesla level 2 charger

https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/tesla-model-s-charging-home-public-autonomously/

6 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

Bangkok Pattaya is 150km. On a type 3 Tesla charger you add 250km range in 30min of charge. Tesla Model S can do 600km on a full charge so you could spend your day driving between Pattaya and Bangkok if that's your thing. I don't know if there is many type 3 charger yet but it won't take long. 

I know there is 1 type 3 Tesla charger in the UK but as far as I know there are none in Thailand at the moment

According to this article Telsa pickup with 500 mile range 800 km) wouldn't be available until late 2022

• S
• Triple motor all-wheel drive with 500 miles of range, 14,000-pound towing capacity, and 0–60 mph in under 2.9 seconds for $69,900 (though this version won’t start production until late 2022)
• https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/21/20975475/tesla-cybertruck-announcement-musk-electric-truck-pickup-features-range-price-release-date

There doesn't appear to be any ev vehicle currently in production that can do 1000 km without re-charging

5 hours ago, izod10 said:

Duh,  keep up with events.  No unfettered access to UK,only British passports now issued not UK/EU ones  ,hint  clue  OK  access denied, now I know its going to hurt  but out is out  who says?  Boris  lol   not a chance of unfettered access, if "right of stay" is not stamped in EU passport  ,no work/ no accomodation,no nothing   off you go       Clueless  lol  lol

  What we are witnessing here is breakup of EU,nothing else,all tearing each other apart,come fishing ,clamping down of EU imports into UK   ,time is up for gang of morons

You really are clueless Here is what the UK state on their website

Who does not need to apply

You do not need to apply if you have:

indefinite leave to enter the UK

indefinite leave to remain in the UK

British or Irish citizenship (including ‘dual citizenship’)

https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/eligibility

Irish passport holders have unfettered access into the UK no immigration stamps

31 minutes ago, izod10 said:

EU citizens must now apply online to legally stay in UK - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xexlE1XytfY

An estimated 3.6 million European Union citizens live in the UK but after the Brexit transition period ends at the end of this year, the government wants them to apply online to secure their legal ....No chance of permission being granted either.

 

 Now that was not hard to find,all over the net.  In your interest now to leave voluntarily or be forced out, as early as June this year, when negotiationd break down WTO  rules OK      in the meantime   bye bye  lol

Sorry to disappoint you but with over 3 million have already applied to stay and even if the UK goes to WTO they can still stay without applying until the end of 2020

As for myself you will be deported before me

https://www.ft.com/content/6e6a7da4-48e9-11ea-aee2-9ddbdc86190d