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oh yes that would be normal behaviour for a tourist wouldn't it ? I can imagine the conversation .......... "fancy a days fishing tomorrow dear" ? "Oh yes that sounds like fun but can we make it the day after as I need to go to the marine authorities first to check out the credentials of the captain" "Of course we can't be too careful when dealing with those crafty Thais and whilst you are at it check that the bait is ethically sourced and that the boat runs on bio diesel too" " will do dear and whilst I am doing that could you study the local marine charts and enter the co ordinates of the perimeter of the no fishing zone in to our GPS receiver"? " and don't forget we need a written guarantee that we wont accidently catch a parrot fish" Do you really expect that anyone (except you of course) would have a conversation like that ? Do I Think that ignorance is an acceptable excuse in this case on ? well on the part of the tourist yes I do, on the part of the captain absolutely not. He would of been well aware of what he was doing. Your drunk driving reference is irrelevant as "every body else does it" was not an excuse that was offered by the tourist however, in that situation ,ignorance of being drunk, for example if your drink had, unbeknown to you, been spiked and you could prove it. would probably at least be considered as mitigating circumstances probably resulting in a more lenient punishment. Neither you nor anybody else on here knows where he caught the fish but a lynch mob has already been formed I find that astonishing

Good point, several people have draw attention to the fact that he is white. topless, hairless, muscled and without tattoos but wearing "tight " shorts . Call me naive but I can't see the relevance either

I think its quite likely that he dropped his anchor so it probably would have been an offense but once you have explained your fantasy legal system we will be better able to decide,

I've been on several fishing trips here over the years and never once did I have any control over where the actual fishing took place, its all handled by the Captain Sorry but I never thought to study any maritime charts so as to be able to advise the captain where we could and couldn't fish, neither would any other tourist, its the skippers responsibility and nobody else's the only exception would be if he was forced to be in the area against his will Obviously there is no boundary marked so how on earth would the tourist have known he was in an illegal spot?? He couldn't have known Maybe if he had known he would have refused to fish he would certainly have been more discreet . The fact that he posted his catch on the net kind of implies he didnt think anything was wrong and why would he.? People can spout off ald day about "ignorance is no excuse" but on a boat somethings are out of your control. If you were on a bus and the driver crashes are you responsible ? Of course not

not really prejudice more like a statement of fact

my kind of shop ????

64 baht for an evenings relaxation !!! Spot on I can't fault you I noticed ZIGZags the other day too for the first time, also saw some mascotte skins I think german but they were only the small size (why do the refer to them as 1 1/4 size ) most common seem to be Raw and OCB, Rizzla seem to be very underrepresented at the moment, their marketing department need a wake up call !

I don't remember the last time I saw brick in the uk It must be nearly 30 years ago I seem to remember paying £24 / qtr IN fact up in liverpool all weed was £24 / qtr for years and years. Not really sure where it came from, it was never reputed to be Thai but occasionally it was claimed to be either Nigerian , Columbian or Mexican, I always preferred it to hash one reason being that it diidn't burn little holes in the sofa or in ones t shirt when the little bits dropped out ! It was sometimes referred to as sinsemilla, We used to buy it off this black scouser in toxteth his bedsit was full to the brim with the stuff kilos and kilos of it, he had a bit of a speech impediment and couldnt pronounce it properly so he (and we ) had to call it "cess" lol those were the days

Technically correct but it does put things into perspective. Something that is needed regarding this incident

This shop seems well stocked , good prices too https://shopee.co.th/meelock55?categoryId=100629&itemId=15591140953 I was going to post a link to the "green bear" shop where I placed an order yesterday, however his products have since been deleted (or he's sold out) the shop in the above link seems very similar

I ordered the same from shopee yesterday I think I paid 160 didn't see them on laz so thanks for the link Not the same as nippin down to the corner shop though for 20 lambo and a packet skins lol

I know the feeling ! and its not nice lol Its strange how so many retailers are so slow off the mark with regards to selling skins, The only ones available where I live are the Thai style chicken brand which are the size of a bed sheet and have no glue on them. I should have bought more with me as I ran out weeks ago and now have to resort to shopee or lazada were some are trying to sell them for 100 baht per pack plus postage which makes them moor expensive than 10g of weed ! Yesterday I stumbled on a shop on shopee selling kingsize "Sedina" papers for 25 baht per pack so I've ordered 5 packs which will last a while as long as the humidity doesn't attack the gum Changing the subject slightly but I really don't understand what certain members on here hope to achieve by constantly berating the good old brick weed I spent the best part of 3 years stuck in the UK due to covid and all that was available was the over priced stuff generally costing around £250/ ounce some of which when sold in the easily available on Ebay official looking california bags was selling for over double that price Maybe after 40+ years of smoking there is something wrong with my cannabis receptors but I am much happier with a nice bit of brick and after buying it here for 30 years I have only been disappointed once as far as i remember Last week the misses came back from the local market with two 10g bags of very nice brick (100bt/ bag) and very strong ! the only complaint I have is that there wasn't one seed in it as I quite fancied growing a bit of it myself

Of course its not his fault. The blame lies solely with the owner of the boat, He was fishing in the Ocean, how on earth was he supposed to know exactly where the limit of the national park was ? that would be a set distance from the shoreline would it not ? GPS would be needed to establish the position precisely, but the captain of the boat would be all too aware that he was too close to the shore. Fishing in the ocean is not like hunting big game on dry land, there is very little control over what kind of fish is going to take the bait If it wasn't for the surnames of the "government officials" involved I doubt very much that the police or immigration would bother themselves with this matter which is really nothing more than virtue signalling by the usual "outraged netizens" whatever "netizens" actually means. Is it even actually a word ?

Not to mention the big vinyl poster that is no doubt currently being commissioned

I'm still wondering what people like you, who use the words "quality tourist " actually mean, Are you referring to "family types" who eat only at overpriced tourist orientated restaurants, spend most of the day visiting temples, taking rides on speedboats,or hiring jet skis, and then safely tucked up in bed by 9pm having consumed no more than a glass or two of overpriced wine ? All fully paid up members of the Temperance Movement ? (people just like you perhaps ?) I also cannot understand, how you have come to the conclusion that people attending night clubs or enjoying themselves in other less "family orientated " ways are not contributing to the overall economy, they also like to eat and drink, they also require accommodation, they may also purchase souvenirs , and any number of other things, Is their, money not worth as much because they enjoy themselves in ways that you personally disapprove of ? This is Thailand not Lourdes most people who come here are looking for fun and not seeking a religious retreat, although that is also available for those that want it. Thailand currently welcomes all tourists , even, or maybe, especially, the ones that people like you disapprove of , but if the TAT change their minds about the kind of tourists they want I am sure they will get in touch with you for help regarding the definition of "quality"

Thailand's "big problem" with illegal immigrants pales into insignificance when compared, for example. to the situation in the UK where tens of thousands arrive every year ! We even supply them with hotel accommodation , mobile phones , spending money and legal representation all funded by the state. If and when the decision is made to even think about deporting them we pay for them to be represented by a lawyer throughout an appeals process that can last virtually indefinitely In the unlikely event that the decision is made to deport them it can be stopped by some faceless bureaucrat in Brussels and the whole appeal starts again Thailand seems to be much more efficient in dealing with their illegals I would say there is no comparison There are agents everywhere who assist people to obtain visas none of them are offering their services for free and none of those services are subsidised by the state I doubt there are any illegal immigrants here who are actually a drain on public funds. Just because somebody doesn't want to leave 800,000 baht festering in a low interest bank account does not really make them "undesirable" in the same way that somebody who is prepared to do that is automatically "desirable"

I still could not care less about anything Mel Gibson says I would suggest that the obvious way to avoid infection and limit transmission of this disease is to limit contact with high risk people and those who have been in contact with them. But as it has been established exactly who is "high risk" no doubt you will be screaming homophobe at me yet again. I assure you I am not

Does that not apply to those working in "Indian" restaurants ?

I have no Idea what Mel Gibson's comments were, neither do I care. But it appears I will have to wait until the disease is properly established in the hetrosexual community before you allow me to comment without you taking offence

In a previous post you said that people indulging in certain sexual practices should wear condoms "it goes without saying" were your words and obviously is good advice, however you then repeatedly state that monkey pox is contracted only by skin on skin contact implying that condoms are not very effective in preventing transmission, all in all a little confusing However when I suggest education which would presumably include similar advice and maybe clarify things a little for all concerned you start screaming homophobia. So are you saying that "as a gay man" only you and other gay men are allowed to make practical suggestions and anybody else who does so is homophobic? By the way you have no knowledge of my sexual orientation despite what you think

No it was not

i don't recall the the words bisexual or homosexual being used in the OP However I am fully aware of the dictionary definition. but I fail to see the need to use countless other pronouns / adjectives MSM refers to men who have sex with men , that to me fulfills the definition of homsexual activity regardless of how these people wish to "identify" themselves In the same way that a phrase like "adults who have sex with children" fulfills the dictionary definition of Paedophile . And before the predicted outrage starts I am not implying that homosexuals or MSM are paedophiles. But this obsession with pronouns and how people "identify" themselves is not helping matters in anyway

Not as predictable as somebody screaming "homophobia" where non exists I merely suggested that education regarding methods of transmission might be appropriate. I think you maybe a bit oversensitive

Another Thai phenomena , If a dog bites you it seems to always have no owner , however should you hit one with your car people will soon crawl out of the woodwork demanding compensation for their "cherished pet"

Considering the long list of currently endangered species, its pretty clear that culling can have an effect, in this case it would be the desired effect as far as most sensible rightminded people are concerned There is no room for sentimentality in situations like this, Those who disagree would no doubt feel differently if they themselves or their children became victims, Its not much fun making several trips to the hospital even if its "just" for rabies jabs