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Part of the frustration is being so impotent here. That hospital ought to be referred to the anti-corruption body, to look into this monkey-business - but I won't be making the complaint.

Same here: blocked at 9:04.

I smell a rat - must be some "agent" or fixer somewhere who can beat the system. (BTW, anyone know the agent?)

Yeah, but, this government is here for a long time I think, no matter what anyone thinks (constitution, senate, destroy opposition, ...)

But, you never know, maybe as I type this, there are, somewhere, smoke-filled back-rooms full of (capable) plotters .  

15 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Hundreds of Thai medical workers infected despite Sinovac vaccinations

 

BANGKOK, July 11 (Reuters) - Thailand's health ministry said on Sunday more than 600 medical workers who received two doses of China's Sinovac vaccine (SVA.O) have been infected with COVID-19, as authorities weigh giving booster doses to raise immunity.

 

Of the 677,348 medical personnel who received two doses of Sinovac, 618 became infected, health ministry data from April to July showed. A nurse has died and another medical worker is in critical condition.

 

An expert panel has recommended a third dose to trigger immunity for medical workers who are at risk, senior health official Sopon Iamsirithawon, told a news briefing on Sunday.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hundreds-thai-medical-workers-infected-despite-sinovac-vaccinations-2021-07-11/

The effectiveness of Sinovac has been questioned for a while ... and now we have it playing out in reality.

Despite this, 10.9 million more doses of it were just ordered, for B6.1 billion - a lot of money, and for what?

53 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Because nothing else is coming into the country. No Moderna. No Pfizer. No J&J. They aren't going to get here until next year--some time. And Sinovac is better than nothing.

Not many quality vaccines have actually been ordered ... just 5 million here and 10 million there ...

My solution: actually make firm orders now for 120 million quality vaccines (yes, will take a while to arrive - and we'll have to suffer in the meantime) ... you could discount that quantity by the minimum amounts the local producer can guarantee to supply (so far, they've been working off the maximum capicity).

Otherwise, all we have now is: a shocking problem, and the only likely solution (an adequate number of quality vaccines) haven't even been ordered yet!!!

Sorry, but the OP sounds like little more than lip service to sort out the (unsolvable?) problem ... just like their assurances to feed the locked-up workers - just words, no follow through.

10 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Massively past 10,000 already , simply not confirmed because of the inadequate level of testing.

Correct ... it's already been reported for days that Bangkok hospitals at least are refusing to test (because they have no beds to admit positives) .... and other places are limited in the number of tests they will do per day.

So, what's the Czar's current game plan?

1. Won't lockdown = let's let it spread unchecked,

2. Won't order 120 million competent vaccines (just doing dribs and drabs of a few million) = let's get "herd immunity" the old-fashioned way i.e. everyone just get it.

So, will the government this afternoon order (as in actually sign a contract) for 120 million doses of the good stuff? (even though delivery mightn't be for a year) ... I doubt it ... so then what's the doctors' next move? ... nothing ... because we're all just pawns trapped in the Czar's cage.

It would be of interest, in this daily tally of new infections and deaths, to include the number of vaccinated persons, and whether single or double (and even which vax they had).

The damn thing will just have to run its course (sadly).

The politicans are vaccinated and (on my understanding of the senate and the constitution) they won't (= can't) be voted out, so they are just fine.

I became so disgusted by the price of blades, that I just kept my last "Gilette Mach-3 Turbo" blade ... and have managed to use it for eight or nine months now.

Shave with it every second day, just using bath-soap, and large, quick strokes ... and use an electric one afterwards for any missed or difficult spots.

You have to strop the blade before each use (e.g. against fabric and then your forearm) - and occassionally soak it in boiling water if it gets clogged.

It can be a little painful: so use quick strokes - the same principle as in pulling off a band-aid plaster.

Interesting to read of the different technologies being employed.

Yes, we need real vaccines and we need them now, but no harm in the development of new ones: we don't really know how long covid will hang around, causing its chaos ... and we don't know how many labs around the world are currently playing around with viruses ... with an (another) accident waiting to happen ... 

It may be that the future of mankind will depend on virus-control ... since we do not seem to be able to stop science students stomping around in caves and other wild places, looking for interesting things to play around with, to satisfy their dream of getting published and securing a Ph. D.

Markets have long been places of concern for spreading it ... why the authorities are only just now dealing with this market ... so often the authorities here are only reactive, not pro-active.