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Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. I've studied science at college. The Lancet study statistic is already a percentage. You and the other guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.... taking a percentage, and then making another percentage based on that percentage is misleading and disingenuous. Exactly like I said earlier: if the Lancet study would have said 1% for vaccinated and 14% unvaccinated, I'm sure you would jump on a chair and say "vaccines are 1,400%!!!! more effective at preventing transmission/infection!!!!!!!!" ???? -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Did you even read the study? Again, same as @heybruce above. You take something that is already a proportion/percentage, and misleadingly make a second proportion. The difference in protection against transmission/infection is 13%. Here: -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Math is not your best subject. And it's disingenuous on your part to make use of a second proportion to show the effectiveness of vaccines against transmission/infection. You say "vaccines are 150% more effective than not being vaccinated." Which is true, but that is entirely meaningless without taking into consideration that: the rate of infection/transmission is 38% for unvaccinated and 25% for vaccinated. An only 13% difference. If the Lancet study would had said 1% for vaccinated and 14% unvaccinated, I'm sure you would have jumped on a chair and said "vaccines are 1,400%!!!! more effective at preventing transmission/infection!!!" ???? Exactly my point. -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
I'm pro-vaccine (like you). Yet the things you've said in this thread are in fact extreme, not scientific and not rational. -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
So? That just shows that the vaccines help protect against becoming seriously ill or death. Which I agree with and which has been proven. Nothing to do with transmission and infection. Your math is all wrong. ???? It's already a proportion. You can't take a proportion and then do a second proportion. ???? Rate of infection in The Lancet study was 38% for unvaccinated and 25% for vaccinated. That's a 13% difference. Which is an insignificantly small difference. Exactly like the study says: -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
The serious flaw in your example is that the measles vaccine does protect against transmission and also infection. Not COVID vaccines. So your argument (and extremist point of view) doesn't have a leg to stand on. -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Are you saying all people who aren't vaccinated are thrashing vaccination centres? What percentage of anti-vaxxers are doing that? Only a handful of people in the whooooole entire whole world? ???? -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
No one is talking about those loonies. We're talking about vaccine inefficiency for transmission/infection... and especially the unjustified hate thrown at unvaccinated for false and unscientific-supported reasons. -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
From what I understand, many of the pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine are equally hysterical. -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
The study is right there. Why not support your claim with a quote? ???? Is what you said even in the study? ???? -
Are we just going to have to live with unvaccinated people across Thailand?
ThLT replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
According to a study published in The Lancet, one of the most respected scientific journals in the world, vaccines are only around 13% more protective against infection/transmission: What is the vaccine effect on reducing transmission in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant? - The Lancet Infectious Diseases So whether you are anti or pro-vaccine, this whole charade/witch hunt is entirely based on emotion, rather than rational thought and scientific fact. -
Where would you put your earnings?
ThLT replied to Neeranam's topic in Jobs, Economy, Banking, Business, Investments
Financial explanation: Crypto is basically a zero-sum game, and people in crypto making gains swing trading it need more people to join add more money to the pot—so that inexperienced people in trading can lose money (which is most people who get started in crypto). The more inexperienced people lose money in crypto, the larger the crypto pot/market cap becomes—and the more gains are possible for those that know what they're doing. That's how crypto is at the moment. And why so many try to advertise it and hype it up. -
Where would you put your earnings?
ThLT replied to Neeranam's topic in Jobs, Economy, Banking, Business, Investments
Don't have that much against crypto. Apart that it consumes the amount of electricity of entire countries. And many coins are scams, along with there being a lot of pump-and-dump, price manipulations, etc. Like Christians or Mormons trying to convert people, I do dislike crypto evangelism, and advertising crypto everywhere they can plug it in. Again, crypto okay, advertising/evangelizing not so much. -
The example, like the definition, doesn't work. It's much more like: there are currently 7000+ crypto coins, and in the next 10-20 years, 99.99% of those will crash and be eradicated, with only a few left—of which millions people will lose all or most of their money (and a lucky few will make a ton of money).
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The point is that you are the kind of person panicking to buy 1 ton of rice, because you tell yourself that there are only 21 million tons left, and 70 million people in Thailand. Because you don't seem to understand that tons can be divided into bags. Exactly like the false scarcity of 21 million Bitcoins, to incite FOMO that "there are only 21 millions coins, buy now before they are all gone!" Since each individual BTC can be divided into individual Satoshis/0.00000001 BTC. There is no scarcity. It's just a FOMO tactic. The more BTC increases in monetary value, the more the 1 BTC unit of measurement becomes irrelevant. At a certain point—exactly like at the moment—people will be talking more and more in Satoshis—of which there can be 2,100,000,000,000,000 (2.1 quadrillion). In the future, theoretically, exactly like 1 BTC right now, 1 Satoshi (0.00000001 BTC) could be worth $36,000, meaning there would be 2,100,000,000,000,000 (2.1 quadrillion) units of BTC each worth $36,000 in circulation, rather than 21 million. The scarcity that there are only 21 million coins/units is a false scarcity.
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Read it again: I guess you're the person who would be panicking if there would be only 21 million tons of rice left. Thinking: "I need to buy a ton before all the tons are gone!" Now replace with "BTC": I guess you're the person who would be panicking if there would be only 21 million BTC. Thinking: "I need to buy one BTC before all the BTC are gone!"