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That would explain his replies more

I'm replying to say things should be handled better. It doesn't matter what country this is. Wrong is wrong, and if wrong is allowed to continue, more wrong happens. Media can make or break you. Every foreigner that sees this will think twice about going there. What was allowed was wrong, period. If you can't handle customers that get out of line, you get another job. People who react instead of using restraint only bring more trouble, and possible loss of revenue. You don't take it personally when someone lightly slaps you, as this man did. What was said that made that man slap him? A person that's violent, with childish tendencies, will react to this kind of situation instead of using logic. When someone hits you, and you're a bouncer, you don't respond by going after them after you put them on the ground and kicking them in the back or head. This kind of reaction takes place daily here, with people kicking people when they are on the ground, already subdued. I don't care what you think it is, you're wrong. This was a place of business, and not a ring. This wasn't someone who was hurting your family. This was a drunk man who slapped the bouncer because he said something he didn't like, was knocked to the ground, and was kicked in the back. You can defend this action? If I was there, I wouldn't return, nor would any friends I happened to be with. There are many bars there where this isn't happening, and incidents do happen almost daily from what I hear from regular patrons., of Pattaya bars. This video is now worldwide. You can bet others are thinking the same thing some of us here are. You wouldn't say the same thing if you were back in your home country, but as you say, this isn't the west.

And the world around us. Money talks to many. If that happened in the US, just as an example of one country, the man would lose that dog, and the dog would be put down.

There's a word that describes what you might want to do. It's called restraint, especially if you want to keep friends.

Exactly my point. What is accepted as the "norm" isn't normal. Many things are accepted here as the "norm" and people are hurt, molested and killed, with sometimes nothing being done. You think that makes for good tourism or business? I guess you don't realize that every time a farang is hurt here, unless he's doing real damage to others, is a black mark against those that want to visit or move here. Barbarism isn't tolerated forever, as we see when dictators are allowed to do what they please until someone steps in and eliminates them. This will be seen worldwide, and the people who aren't dense, violent or brown nosers will look at this in a bad way. I repeat aain, what the man did was wrong, but what the bouncers did was worse.

No, they were smart and didn't want to get involved, because defending another man here that slapped a Thai will bring you trouble, no matter what the locals did to him. I'm sure the farangs knew this was wrong. You still, like some others here, don't understand that he didn't get what he "deserved." He slapped a guy, he was hit back. That's where it should have ended, especially seeing he went down. That would be getting what he deserved. I seriously doubt he would have continued the fight anyway. Kicking him on the ground is cowardly, no matter what anyone might believe. It doesn't matter what country this may have happened. A bouncers job is to subdue people, and bring them outside, or away from the bar. They did this in a western country, they would be fired, and the bar sued. Another thing you're overlooking. This bar will now lose customers, meaning farangs, and now, since they got away with this behavior, it will be free reign on anyone else that gets a little out of line. The next time it might be someone dying.

I get daily news from America. This happens every week, and involving female teachers also. Difference there is that they will be fired, brought up on charges, and jailed, and if they are men, they will have a very hard time in prison. People don't get away with things like this is the US. They might get lenient sentences, depending on severity and having a good lawyer, but they will have to register as a sex offender, and everyone that wants to , will know.

If the authorities take no action they should be fired. if the schools take no action, their main admin should be fired. If this continues to happen, the government should do the job intended. Protect our children. If anyone did this to my daughter, he wouldn't be able to work anywhere again. Children are innocents, and need to be protected by those in charge. if those in charge cannot protect them, then hire ones will will.

Actually I'm an average Joe, and I've always been with pretty girls. I'm not lonely when I'm alone. I just prefer a woman's company. Do your loser, smelly friends know you think about them that way?

I'm not sure who it is you're referring to. Some here have said it's not a good idea to marry a bar girl, with intelligent replies, and others have said it's okay, and if they are happy, that's fine. We can't be the ones who judge them because we don't live with these girls. There are normal women who come from good families that take advantage of men and are greedy, a lot because they think there is a standard way of living they need to conform to, a lot because of media or peer pressure. They think it's okay to use men, although deep down that's not the way they were raised. Then there are bar girls that only did it for a very short time, and were hoping to find a prince to sweep them off their feet and give them a future, and they found it. Then there are those that have been with many men, and will never look at their partner as anything but a more permanent john. Everyone has to live with their choices. I've made some bad ones based on attraction that have hurt me and gotten me stuck in a place I don't want to be, at least for the time being. Only thing you can do is move on.

Been there. I have one daughter who went through a few older boyfriends that used her to rob others. I constantly told her these older men were just using her, that they didn't care about her at all, but she wouldn't listen. She finally got caught and spent some time. When she got out, she found a good guy. A man who was married before, to a drug addicted (to this day) wife, and he received custody after the divorce and her being busted. He is a hard worker, in AC, and is pretty laid back, different to the abusive morons she wasted her time with. I asked her why she didn't say they were abusive to her. She told me she knew I would find them and beat them down (actually worse). Other children I raised found better partners, or at least ones that didn't intentionally hurt them, and they are doing well in life. I had primary custody of all of my children besides one.

Another thing that's true. You can teach your daughters all about men, how they all want just sex, and finding a good one that will stay is almost impossible, that you must find one that is working, has a good future lined up, that went to college etc etc. Fact remains, you can't tell another person who to be attracted to. it isn't a choice. They can love their dads more than anything, know what he says is true, but still fall for a drug addicted, non employed, abusive dickhead that only looks at them as meat. They have to learn by themselves, and sometimes that means the hard way.

You may not be a bad father, but teaching your daughters to be gold diggers is bad behavior on your part.

The average Joe just might be the one a normal woman needs. Everyone needs money, but it's not necessary to be rich to have a good marriage. Looks are what first attracts a normal non gold digger woman. Cash and assets are what attracts a gold digger, meaning she will sleep with anyone who has enough money to buy her "things". Things which all wear out, break and not last. Only a stupid girl goes for just money. Yes, they might have more of those "things" than her friends, and many people, but does she have a trustworthy, loving, non abusive, non cheating, non addicted partner to take care of her? No, she has someone who will buy her things to feed her user ego, and she'll never be happy with things. No one is, unless they also have a good partner that will always be there when those things wear out and can't be replaced someday. A good personality can come from any income level, but finding one with a good personality is still hard. As far as thinking you know what kind of people are on this forum, only guesses can be made. No matter what anyone says here, you still don't know them. If they are consistently replying the same way, you can assume they are that way in real life, but still only assume. Granted,most retirees are older men, but not all are bald, which means nothing, as many women like bald men. They might be fat, but most people of retiree age have extra fat when they get older. Some have been fat all their lives. Some get lazier and add weight from inactivity.Some are like me, who have maintained a lean body all their lives. As far as uneducated, that's another thing you can't tell from replies, unless they are consistently wrong, which a normal person wouldn't do intentionally. I don't care at all about gold diggers. I wouldn't go with one even if I was a millionaire. Money doesn't buy what I've been looking for. Character isn't bought, it's the way people already are. People that whine about how their life is because they don't take care of themselves have only themselves to blame. A man can be fat and still be a good, loving man. A man can be fit and be an <deleted>. Character again, is what makes a normal woman attracted, along with humor, attention to detail and being a good listener.

Sins are sins, all are meant to cause pain. One might be worse than others, but all are sins. Using contraceptions are a way of not bringing children into this world you don't want to raise. Sex happens because we are animals that think we need it. Using birth control is a necessity if you don't have the financial means or desire to be responsible for the children you make.

Do you not realize there are millions of women who are gold diggers that have old,smelly, fat men inside them every day? Teaching a woman to be independent and about the actions of men is the best thing a father can do. Then the girl can find a man that wants her for her, not her money, and she, being independent, doesn't have to settle with the before mentioned kind, but with a man that's like minded, and looks at her as a partner and not an object to be inside. School girls give it away for many reasons, mainly to be like their other clueless peers, or not having a father that at least tries to teach their daughters how boys are. Not that they'll listen because a lot of girls feel the need to fit in. Some smart ones go to higher education, not wasting their time with boys, who not only don't understand how to please a girl, but to stay when and if a child is made. Teaching your children to be gold diggers, users, is teaching them to give their bodies to only the rich, who largely think they are entitled, and are more likely to look for outside attention.

"A victim’s parents revealed the actions of the depraved teacher to the public on Tuesday, August 8. They claimed that the community leader noted the issue but did not take any action and let the teacher work at the school like nothing had happened. The teacher remained in his position and continued sexually assaulting more schoolgirls. He was caught again and repeatedly promised to leave the school but made no move. He then blackmailed each student to keep quiet by giving them money to end the issue". .......................................................................... This is yet another reason I will take my daughter from here and re locate back home in the US. What kind of scumbag lets this happen without doing anything? What kind of "parent" lets this happen and only looks at compensation for themselves? What kind of school administration allows a "caught" teacher molesting girls and allows him to return and not file charges?

True in a way, but no matter the culture, there is still a wrong and a right way. There are only a few different personality types, and that's in all people worldwide. And people can be narcissists anywhere, and are, and they are the ones who screw their children up and send them into the world to damage others. Thailand leads the world with kids raised by grandparents, and that's never a good thing when they're parents are still alive. Kids without fathers, or a good male role model, start out in the world behind in their thinking how to treat others, especially women. It's part of the culture here, and is a real problem. One can se daily these kids running wild and hurting others, ganging up on others 5 against 1, having children with girls then leaving, and the court doesn't hold them responsible, so they continue with more and more girls, who think they must leave those kids with grandma and go to big cities to work, hardly seeing their own kids. Families not having a serial killer or rapist in them doesn't mean they aren't raising those narcissists, who damage people in every aspect of life.

I did say repent. I know what I've done isn't what he intended. That's why I'm still trying my best to be a good partner, hoping the present one is the one. I like the idea of marriage, and do what I'm supposed to. Maybe I should have stayed with the one wife I had. She died last year from a heart attack, and I'm positive the medication she was on for many years before I met her was to blame. This one in Thailand is a narcissist, abusive, a liar and a cheat. She did things that would have landed her in jail in the US, or gotten her killed by someone less restrained. And do you know when you're going to pass? No one does, and always assume it might be tomorrow instead of today. I think about it all the time, especially seeing all these actors and musicians from my time period passing daily.

As mentioned, the chance it was genetic.

It's not having a good heart. God knows your heart, meaning what you really feel. In sickness and in health doesn't mean their cheating, abusing, kidnapping your child, addiction to painkillers and the behavior from it, but having a disease they're suffering from. Narcissism isn't really curable, even if they want it to happen. Why are you hoping for some wiggle room if you don't believe in God anyway?

Everyone sins. That's why Jesus sacrificed himself to save us, to give us a chance to repent before we die. God knows our hearts, and our actions are because we chose to do whatever we want. Some don't care about consequences, some are afraid of them, but still do bad things. I know I'm going to heaven when I die, because I have a good heart, and believe in God no matter what <deleted> happens in my life. I don't use women, and always have wanted a relationship with a woman. I've made bad choices based on attraction, and live to regret it, especially here. The older you get, the closer you are to passing. I've been a bodybuilder for 50 years, but am not near in the shape I was when I was 50. Still lean strong and fast, but my joints hurt all the time because I overworked them. I've been humbled for quite awhile now, and hate what goes on in this world, and question God all the time, but when you consider you only live to 85 years or so, that's nothing compared to forever. I know you don't believe,or at least you say you don't, so you may just blow this off, but your kids want to know you. That's a fact. If you don't care, then nothing can be done, but if you make the first move, you might be surprised what happens. Your daughter came to Chiang Mai. There's a reason she did. That was your chance, but there's always a chance unless you simply don't care. Again, why give so much care for this one here and nothing for the other ones? They aren't your ex wife. they are individuals, and damaged. Up to you to help them before you go.

I think we all understand why you feel this way. If he wasn't here, the parents would not be shot. Doesn't take into account that they might be the ones responsible for his behavior. Granted, like I said, some are born genetically inclined to be psychopaths, but that's a minority. Most are raised to be that way.

How do you know what rules I break? Getting married again because I left someone who betrayed me of course was my choice, and staying with someone addicted to pain pills and acting accordingly isn't a good thing either. Maybe I should have stayed, maybe not. God doesn't want us to be miserable , even if we make bad choices out of attraction. No excuses from me, just the way I chose to go. God has rules that all make sense, but not loving your children I'm sure he frowns upon. Again, if you don't want to raise kids, nor love them, don't have any. The world is filled with millions of fatherless children who go astray and hurt others. It's hard enough trying to raise a child in this world right especially if your kids have peers who are damaged from their parents.

Who's your God? I know you don't believe in the God, so I'm guessing it might be one of the many statues or perhaps a tree? If it is God, then using birth control in your case I'm sure he wouldn't mind, as he believes in family, and that means being in contact with and loving them, no matter how far away they are, and since he knows your heart, he knows you don't want anything to do with the kids you made previously. We know, by what you've said here, that you have a Thai child that you've helped with school. Why concentrate on this one and neglect the others? Aren't they worth as much?