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4 minutes ago, Mattd said:
No, I see it completely differently, somebody has to do those jobs, the money isn't even close to what people imagine it to be, it is hard dangerous work, it is essential work.
Sanctimonious much?
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5 minutes ago, traveller101 said:Non-Thais would go through the exact same procedure as Thai Nationals (government mandated quarantine).
So why do they carry a higher risk of spreading Covid-19?????
Please try to explain without resorting to the proverbial thai logic.
Why should the Thai government pay for government mandated quarantine for foreigners that don't pay taxes in the country?
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2 minutes ago, Mikeasq60 said:
Thats OK its their choice but when the farang husband finds out the money stops and then she can have her Thai boyfriend maybe all to herself whose probably a drunk on thai whiskey and waisted on yaba. And is probably screwing around on the farangs former wife. Thai men will screw around on their wives or girl friends ask the ladies working Nana or Soi Cowboy!
Is that an element of worry I detect in your post?
From the cases of men working offshore that caught their wives screwing around that I am personally aware of, most of them never even dumped their Thai wife or gf, and just pretended it never happened.
Some of the women still continued to do it after being caught and as soon as the mug was away back on the first hitch!
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10 minutes ago, bbi1 said:
Those workers choose those jobs and they are making a killing doing it. Life is all about decisions and that's the jobs they choose.
In a nutshell.
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2 minutes ago, Mattd said:
<deleted> are you going on about, who said that they (or me) are special?
The OP is about those Farangs that are stuck overseas away from their families, some posters seem to think that this is the persons fault, which, in some cases may be true, however, it was pointed out by myself and others that not everybody had a choice, some had to go to work to support their families, whether that be before this all kicked off, or after is irrelevant, for people to state that they should just have popped home before the ban is ridiculous to the extreme.
A lot of people simply have no appreciation of, or simply do not care, how difficult it can be. Selfish springs to mind.
Right now PR cannot enter, my Boss is stuck overseas, he has PR, work permit, the MD of an essential business etc.
Everyone had a choice.
You made the wrong one.
You went to work when it was plainly obvious that there was a high risk that you might not be able to return to Thailand to your family.
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2 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:
I honestly wouldn't. I would just go.
Yep, but there are those that think they should be allowed to stay just because.
Speaking the national language fluently should be a requirement in any country that you wish to stay permanently.
It certainly is for the UK and Australia and you have to take a test to prove it.
Indeed there is a Thai language test for PR here but you can get assistance to translate the questions which I thought was a bit of a cheat.
Interestingly Bill Hienecke the billionaire CEO of Minor Food Group is a Thai citizen and I believe he does not speak Thai... could be wrong on that one but.
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5 minutes ago, Mattd said:
The naivety of some people is astounding at times, please think before you write, some are on fixed installations for one, cargo ships can't just pop in to port, offshore vessels are carrying out essential tasks and some cost 100,000 USD per day ++++ to operate, they cannot just stop what they are doing, plus a lot of countries have, like Thailand, stopped seafarers from carrying out crew changes, meaning that those onboard cannot get off as they have no relief joining, there are a huge number of people displaced due to this.
I do hope you all think of that the next time you put fuel in your car, cook, write on your imported computer, watch your imported TV, the list goes on and on, without these guys the world would be in dire straits, the supply line is essential.
These workers are sacrificing a lot so that we can live.
You are not special and neither are they.
Why aren't you getting the joke here?
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3 minutes ago, mommysboy said:
Unfortunately, Thailand has little respect for such marriages. This story just highlights the continuous insecurity of such relationships and the problem begins and ends with 'temporary visitor' status, which is an absurdity since marriage and parenthood is quite obviously something that is long term. It's really a human rights issue imo.
There is an easy way to eliminate the hangers on and the ne'er do wells and allow a robust process of residence through marriage or parenthood.
Make it a requirement to speak, read and write fluent Thai.
Mandatory criminal record check for felons and warrants with home country and in Thailand.
Proof of income.
Without those, it would impossible to allow, due to the number of foreigners that would abuse the system.
After all, who wouldn't learn Thai to remain with their wife or kids?
Never going to happen though as the root cause is a fear and distrust of foreigners in particular Westerners.
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3 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:
Ironically, I wouldn't mind being 'stuck' outside now. Cooler climate, a chance to re-valuate things without distractions, missus not in my ear, proper food available, etc. But that's just me.
Re-evaluating is what every foreigner should be doing now, especially those stuck outside the country.
Think about what you are doing.
Assess the risks going forward.
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1 minute ago, Darksidedude said:
A lot of people work rotational work in other county's especially oil workers like myself fly in fly out month on month off or whatever, people who were due to fly into Thailand for their R & R back to their family's cannot get back in, there are also many folk on retirement visas they may have had to go back to their home country's for business reasons or visa reasons, i can only get a spouse visa outside of Thailand, think before you speak man.
Again back to recognising your status.
None of that matters.
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5 minutes ago, Darksidedude said:Yes its horrible i believe they should allow falangs who are married to Thais return.
I think its disgraceful how falangs that have family's in Thailand are treated we have no rights what so ever apart from getting a spouse visa, whats the issue falangs go to Thailand self isolate for 14 days done
The best way to combat this would be for us all to petition our home countries for reciprocal laws.
The Thais will never even think about changing it otherwise until it affects them in the pocket.
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1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:I couldn't put it any better than that.
Perfectly apparent every day in my 10 years in Thailand.
Once understood you immediately stop the silly 'I am better expat than thou' competition nonsense and realise that a pink book, green book, ownership of any property, marriage, kids etc doesn't mean squat.
Ironically I am a permanent resident and director of a Thai Public Ltd. company and if I was outside the country I would be in exactly the same boat.
In the end we are all foreigners and 'farang' to Thais and that is all we ever will be.
Doesn't mean I agree with it but that is the way it is.
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Their first mistake was thinking that Thailand recognises them as special cases through marriage, children with a Thai spouse, retirees or any other method that they have been using to cling on to a life in a country that does not value or want them.
A harsh wake up call to be sure, but better late than never.
Their second mistake was not fully understanding their status and rights as temporary visitors for purposes other than tourism.
They are not residents, they are not immigrants, they have not emigrated to Thailand, they do not live here permanently, and most importantly, they do not have a right to return.
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Is she a doctor like I am a retired special forces operative living in Pattaya?
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I saw some of the material they were teaching the kids on social media yesterday...
Errors all over the place. A lot of it was gibberish.
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11 minutes ago, champers said:... or an expat being scammed by a compatriot running a boiler room operation in Thailand.
Beat me to it.
Most of the scamming of elderly pensioners in Australia and the UK was happening in Thailand in the 90's and early 00's with the boiler room boys, protected by local plod and influential persons.
British and Aussie Police tried numerous times to deal with it, but because it was sanctioned here at high levels, and local important persons were benefiting from it immeasurably, and on the take, there were no serious attempts to shut it down.
There was next to no reporting on it too, all the journalists that were brave enough to comment were threatened, taken to court and eventually chased out of the country. Some even had their families threatened.
Millions upon millions of Pounds and Dollars were extorted from elderly and naive people, and invested in well known entertainment businesses in Bangkok, Pattaya and elsewhere.
When I used to be a bit of a bar-fly in the late 90's and early 00's I used to choose where I frequented very carefully, the ones owned by boiler room scum were pretty well known, especially the infamous Irish bar up from Soi 22 with the faux IRA cowards pretending to be hard and the Antipodean place on Soi 8. Loads more and we could be here all day naming them.
Let's hope this elderly gent is found well and safe and if there's a problem he gets help if he needs it.
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Funny, having lived and worked here for 30-years, trust is not a word that immediately springs to mind when I think of Thais or Thailand.
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6 minutes ago, giddyup said:True? Who knows. Maybe he just ran out of money.
In the video it is alleged that the Thais have him prisoner and they are using his ATM card to withdraw his pension.
Let's see what transpires.
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9 hours ago, daveAustin said:
The nobs up top actually dream of a sterile Thailand.
Which, given the current situation at the very top, is hypocritical in the extreme.
It's as if they are ashamed of what they really are.
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12 hours ago, herwin1234 said:
Good post.
I never understand the cynical anti Chinese comments of the forum farang.
China is almost a neighbour of Thailand (unlike far far away western countries), Chinese immigrants have helped build Thailand, integrated perfectly, so many Thai ppl have partially Chinese roots. (unlike farangs who do zero integrating, are negative to the bone, and live in a bubble and are not part of Thai society). Besides this, believe it or not, but Chinese ppl (tourists) dont display the negative and cynical behaviour of farang, so its only natural that Thais would welcome Chinese ppl more than farangs.
Farangs unfairly trashing Chinese is a bit like an unwanted woman trashing her more succesfull rival!
Total and utter nonsense post.
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15 minutes ago, LeamchabangLarry said:
Speaking of which, I'm due for getting one of those checks. Does a doc checking your prostrate also bring happiness and success?
I know a place in Pattaya that does 'milking', whatever that means...
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Gonna be fun when they realise that this is only the tip of the iceberg.
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13 hours ago, RandolphGB said:
The only answer is for the airline to be sold to an experienced foreign group. They’d turn it around within a year and it would become profitable.
Of course, that would never happen as it would it would expose the systematic corruption and cronyism rooted in the airline, which no sensible business group would tolerate and immediately set out ending.
Plus, the loss of face would be too much to bear to have foreigners running their national airline.
The clever Thai companies, and nearly all foreign owned ones have foreign executives either running them or advising.
Outside of the usual monopolistic and corrupt practices most Thai entities are lost.
Always exceptions to the rule though, but Thai Airways certainly ain't one.
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11 minutes ago, timendres said:We are now beginning to see the ripples. The lockdowns were the stone tossed into the water. The ripples have now begin to spread. Like dominos, this absurdity is going to cause waves of economic spectacles that are going to surprise many.
It is going to get real nasty once the sociopaths and mentally unstable, money worshipping lunatics understand the true gravity of the situation.
Listening to Motorhead - Brotherhood of Man.
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Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart
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I'd make it mandatory for tourists.
Survival of the fittest.