DonniePeverley

So can Thailand. Thailand has the weather and much more natural beauty. Thailand choses an addiction to cheap mass tourism. It could easily become a 'Barbados' and work itself up to a quality tourist destination. Unfortunately in it's panic after covid it has opened up to the world, removed all restrictions, and has destroyed the country in an ugly way. Yet they like to claim they have to so many visitors as though it's to be congratulated. If you invite people to your country who don't spend much then it's not much of a celebration. They have destroyed the country with the enviromental impact, the pollution, the mess, dirt, masses of people, ecological damage. Japan doesn't have the weather or the beach of a Thailand, yet maintains quality tourism. Malaysia does too to an extent (At least they don't let indians enter free for all).

Backpackers let the team down. Totally horrific set of tourists that Thailand wanted to get rid off - that is until Sretta came along and welcomed all cheap tourists.

Japan has very strong border controls ... and does not allow mass cheap tourism from the likes of China, India, African continent etc THAILAND is basically the holly grail for cheap mass tourism. It's the only country in the world that allows Indians in visa free. MASS CHEAP TOURISM The whole obsession in Thailand with an arbitary number of visitors is ridiculous. If USA, UK, Australia opened up to cheap mass tourism from India and China they would get millions more visitors, but they want QUALITY TOURISTS, not cheap tourists who spend nothing and do nothing but create carnage and turn away quality tourists. Thailand is a mess and awash with cheap tourists.

We popped in one afternoon last month. Place only had one couple eating. The rather dismissive door lady said we needed a reservation and that we would need to wait, so they took our number and said they would call in around 1 hour or so. We continue around Empishere shops, and went back and it was still empty. I was bit annoyed by this, and maybe they had a problem with us or had some dress code (they didn't) so cancelled the reservation. Went to eat elsewhere, walked past it again and it was still just another soliary couple in there. So why on earth did she deny us a seat? Bizarre

Ex PM Sretta panic decision to open up the borders to Indian tourists will be looked back on as one of the worst decisions in Thai history.

I doubt a tourist would try this in Dubai. Thailand has lost the message on going strong after criminals. It's too caught up in 'being nice' and hospitable to tourists. These criminals ruin it though for other tourists and locals.

Quality tourist. Probably here on a long term visa learning Muay Thai. Why do we never hear these nutty tourists in Dubai or Malaysia ?

Genuine question as to why they are so horny ? Is the upbringing in India quite restrictive when it comes towards the opposite sex?

Hes here on a long term visa isnt he ? creep

His vision? Tourism. It;s the only idea he has.

It's a complete nonsensical myth they are bringing in money to Thailand. There was nearly 3 million visitors from India this year, and they are still by person some of the lowest spenders in Thailand, yet makeup a large part of the visitors. A better way to look at it is spend per tourist. Counting how much visitors from a certain country bring into the country is not an exact science, and not a perfect full proof equation. Furthermore, they do have some high end tourists who will spend money, movies shot in Thailand, but they also have some awfully budget visitors - to then average this up and claim Indians spend money is a bad way to look at it. Secondly, you have to look at the impact they have on other visitors and local culture. They are sex pests, and whilst this is tolerated normally ... what they do is bordering on abuse. I have witnessed many of them, in packs hounding a Thai prostitute to give them a discount if she takes the whole group. The vulnerable lady will often agree. It's disgusting. Many female friends refuse to go to Pattaya anymore as Indian men will often see them as prostitutes. It's barbaric. Their view on women is horrific. Furthermore, they've colonised other seedy nightlife areas in Bangkok, and other nightlife area which in turn has then meant a more higher spending clientele has moved away from entering those areas. Many clubs around Soi 13 in Bangkok, are aghast how they have bough the 'tone down' to that area. The impact it has on high end tourists who will not want to go to resorts or destination where the makeup is of massive cheap indian tourists (along with Chinese tourists). No other country has a generous visa policy for Indians than what Srettha Thavisin in his stupid panic for more tourists has given the Indians. Why don't Indians let in Thais visa free? So if they in turn then turn away high spending tourists, their net benefit further negates. The economy of India per person is three times less than Thailand. Many will overstay and seek to work, all now possible thanks to the ridiculous open door visa policy for long stay. Many other countries are now putting barriers back up to Indian visitors, eg Cambodia and Malaysia. But not Thailand. They will often say 'oh Indians bring so many millions to the economy', negating the fact the volume and negative impact they bring. Pollution, litter, enviromental impact, over staying. The problem will only get worst as more and more will come. You can only assume ex- leaders like Srettha have very little day to day mixing with these types of tourists so they don't care.

Thailand was told due to uncertain times, enviromental impacts, wars, pandemic to make sure they diversified their economy, and not rely soley on tourism. They've done nothing. The whole country is addicted to cheap mass tourism. They haven't even done anything in regards to attracting quality tourism. The new goverment has become fixated on an arbitary number, and basically opened up the country to the world with no visa restrictions.

Can anyone explain to me why Thailand has introduced a visa free policy for Indians? No other country has done so. The vast majority are just horrific tourists, low spenders, who turn away quality tourists. In Pattaya their behaviour is border line abuse to Thai women. They are sex pests out there - 6 of them onto 1 vulnerable Thai lady. They view every woman as a prostitute, even normal ladies. Their sex drive is just of the scale out there. Immediate visa restrictions, with fees need putting back up. The irony is, India doesn't even let Thai's in visa free (Despite their economy per person being 3 times worst off).

Why do you not see these crazy tourists in other countries like Malaysia, Dubai, Korea etc ? Thailands open border visa policy is to blame.

They are buying up property. The leadership of Thai, particularly the previous PM, own property companies.

Near Sukhumvit. It's absolutely vile. Traffic and pollution. Walking on a pavement is a hazard as you are constantly inhaling horrific fumes. Car emissions is not a thing here.

Feels like there are drugs everywhere in Thailand. Just a disgrace what's happened since this new government came into power.

I deeply regret it. We visited during covid as City was opening and it was a delight. It's pure carnage now. It's just tourism everywhere, and some of the worst set of tourists you can find anywhere. Just horrific. Sex hungry Indian tourists, flag following Chinese tourists, draft dodging Russians all mixed with racist British. Pollution especially from cars is disgusting. Black smoke from the busses is particularly vile. When i got back to the UK i could finally breath in some fresh air.

This guy was basically just a puppet wasn't he ?

Hang on foreigners pay a different fee on the BTS ? WTF

Wait .... there is a seperate price for foreigners on the MRT than for locals? WTF since when ? What about the self pay machines ?

Tell that to a Thai that the UK has an easy 'absurd' border policy. It's impossible for your average Thai to get a visa to come visit the UK. Thailand currently has a border policy that even a criminal with a hundred million convictions for the most heinous of crimes, from a country in Africa or India itself can just come and live in Thailand.

It has some of the most beautiful natural beauty in the world to be an upscale destination. Barbados, Aruba, some of these islands in the Phillippines, Malaysia keep it strictly upscale. Thailand is just a cesspitt at the moment since the new government have opened up the borders. Far more long term people staying - be it draft dodgers, criminals, etc

Utterly disgusting level of numbers, that has come about because of panic measures after the pandemic - opening up to cheap mass tourism. If the USA, UK, Europe, Australia all opened up to mass indian tourism, or Chinese tourism they would get numbers in the hundreds of millions. Thailand has ruined tourism as an upscale tourist destination by catering to cheap mass tourism. The policies of this government have been utterly disgusting. You have some of the most collective worst set of tourists in the world descending on Thailand. No other country has such an open, absurd border policy. An enviromental, and ecoligical disaster too.

In small amounts it's fine. If you do it in day out, it can have effects. I've seen numerous tourists who are caning it DAY IN DAY OUT, then when they stop they turn into nutters, the withdrawel symptoms can produce some nasty effects.