DonniePeverley

Bro's that deep. Did you get that on your own, or through therapy ?

The open border policy has shown to be sheer lunacy. You need to have balances and checks to ensure you have responsible visitors to your country. Thailand these days is a complete mess with the people it's letting in. Absolute pits. The DTV is being abused. This was the first year we actively looked at moving elsewhere. Then on top of that they made the unwise decision to open up to India, without actually thinking should they have some balances and checks in place? Should they ensure all indians are booking hotels, and returning etc They did nothing, with the foolish notion let's just get more visitors in. Indian visitors are turning away some nationalities who find their behaviour awful. I love India, and the families who come on holidays are amazing. But they have alot of sex pests who come to Pattaya especially and behave absolutely disgusting. As a female there you simply cannot go.

No system is perfect. The Post Office scandal was to do with a failed IT system, not a direct fault of the judicary itself - although i do counter that it is debatable. I am not saying the UK system is perfect. Sentancing for actual crimes is a joke. But in terms of procedure and the court system it's one of the best in the world. Wait till you experience systems in other countries.

Which country would you point to where there is a justice system that you see as the model way? Thailand? Don't make me laugh. USA? It's pretty much the same as the UK with courts back logged months and years. If you think lawyers are bad in the UK, then go see how things work in the USA. India? You can end up in court cases for decades here ! The UK whatever it faults, has one of the strongest and safest law criminal codes in the world. Go ask Singapore, they copied the UK text book by text book. It's why people feel safe investing there.

You still need a visa to go to Vietnam for Indians. About 25% of the numbers that visit Thailand. Because you need a visa you need to show evidence of a hotel booking and return flight. No sharing 4/5 guys into a room. As a result you weed out the sex nut men who spoil the reputation for other Indians, you instead get families.

I have spoken to mamy Chinese people in and around Vietnam when i was there .... safety, marijuana drugs, and too many indians was a complaint i always got. Thailand needs to rethink it's whole 'visa free' policy. And needs to clean it's image up. The whole DTV fiasco has let in a criminal lot into the country.

The usual racist lines being trotted around - 'stable' 'islam is not a race' .... completely radicalised these lot.

I'll play along. Okay so whats your definition of a British citizen then ?

Isn't he South African though ?

Criminal record. Banned from travelling to America. She won't get any decent job anymore that requires a criminal background check. Hence why these people tend to pick up council estate Benidorm Brits. You see so many Benidormy Brits in Thailand at the moment, that would never have ventured there in the past. Dare i say it they all on the same game.

Council estate areas in the UK. Thailand really has the pits reputation around the world at the moment with smuggling. A lady got a very lenient sentence for smuggling last year, i just knew then that would be the start of this.

When was it great incidentally ?

I think there has been heightened racism tensions in the area, especially with the usual racist crew stirring it up. Most people who followed the story to begin with did not have a grasp of the full picture. The saw a brown guy being tasered, collapse, and out of it, then an officer come and kick him in the face/head. It was a brutal video and a brutal kick. The two idiot brothers innocent act did not help their community either, combined with lawyers stirring it up as some sort of George Floyd type incident. What they did not reveal or show was what happened leading up to that kick by the officer, namely there was alot of violence leading up to that point. I am not entirely sure how they believed they would get away with it, knowing full well there would be cameras everywhere showing what they did in the minutes leading up to it. These two idiots let their community down when the full facts came out, namely the idiot headbutted a female police officer as a particularly despicable act. Most who went and protested rightly now feel cheated when the full facts came out. Now we have racists calling them out, despite them just being another pair of plonkers.

Last year there were 230 plus attacks on police offers in the UK. 96% were carried out by white men, usually drunk and disorderly. So you are saying these 4% of non white attackers should get two tier justice? I am confused because aren't you arguing against two tier justice - which i believe is racists new nonsensical argument of the week. These men, whether you like it or not, were born in the UK. They are british citizens. So take your racism and shove it. It's the UK problem and they will face the consequences just like the 96% of white attackers.

People like you were saying this would never come to court. Now shifting goal posts. When they get sent down, it still won't be enough for you. They will get done. The question is was the copper justified in kicking him to his face when he was already down. Rightly the UK is pretty strict with anyone handing out some punishment, I think it's annoyed alot of people that these pair then had some solicitors trying to cash in on that kick by the police guy as some of form of police brutality, whilst not revealing their own actions. In my opinion the copper was justified, as no way he could tell this nutter would not get back up. In the US he probably would have been shot.

There are plenty of assault cases throughout the UK. We know the agenda why this is one making headlines. They are both plonkers.

Another Brit caught smuggling it out of Thailand. The absolute horrific reputation THailand has got worldwide from their marijuana laws. https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/cannabis_news/former-uk-asda-manager-jailed-for-smuggling-cannabis-from-thailand

Scotland has an awful drug and alcohol problem.

QUALITY - A family, with children. Booking 4-5 star hotel. Go and use outside local restaurants. Some shopping. Visit and pay to see local attractions. Use local tour guides to visit destinations. Do not commit any crime. Take social media pictures to spread the word to other families in their group. Children will visit Thailand again when they grow up. What is not quality - 10 indian men staying illegal in one room, then openly soliciting prostitution in big groups. Benidorm brits boozing it up then smashing up peoples faces and taking marijuana illegally back with them. Cheapos staying in hostels then sipping other peoples left over drinks. Chinese tourists on a zero dollar holiday (where everything is paid for in China, so will only stay and eat within Chinese ran establishments and tours). Draft dodging Russians thinking they can work and buy up property illegally.

ONE HAND - QUALITY MARKETS OTHER HAND - LET IN ALL CHEAP TOURISTS, EVEN INDIANS. RESULT - Quality tourists head elsewhere.

They should be mass vaccinating Prep alot of the girls in Pattaya and Bangkok who work every month - especially the transsexual community.

What happened to free speech? Oh wait, it's only the speech that he likes.

Where you been reading ?

Clearly that isn't helping. But you need to see the situation in India to fully understand why this is a major issue.

Letting in sex mad Indian men in big groups, visa free, into Pattaya is going to make the problem worst.