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21 minutes ago, simple1 said:
News Corp are not suing Facebook, it's the Oz government commencing enactment of a mandatory code of practice for the Australian media industry, the development of which has been ongoing for three years. I recall reading news content currently generates about 4% of Facebook's Australian revenue; last tax year $674 million total revenue.
“Facebook already pays some media for news content. The code simply aims to bring fairness and transparency to Facebook and Google’s relationships with Australian news media businesses.
Media organisations are arguing the pros and cons, but ultimately I believe Oz government and Facebook will come to a resolution.
The fact that news links generate 4% of Facebook's revenue doesn't mean they owe them money. Using news links doesn't make one liable for payment. This would be analogous to a restaurant being in close proximity to a stadium (or airport). Stadium argues that people come to your restaurant because of events held at our stadium, therefore "you owe us money!".
An even stronger argument can be made that Facebook drives more traffic to these news websites than the other way around. So do they owe Facebook money then?
The fact that Facebook already pays some media for news content is quite irrelevant (is Facebook paying for actual content, i.e. not links?). I can choose to give my favourite bargirl a tip for doing nothing, doesn't mean I owe everyone else a tip too for doing nothing. If I am obligated to pay, there needs to be a very clear and hard reason as to why. Which once again brings me to the core question: does Facebook need to pay for LINKS?
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18 minutes ago, simple1 said:
There are lawsuits concerning Facebook activities in Australia, to which lawsuit are you referring?
The point I was making is Facebook were already planning to change their business model concerning news, so why all the over the top reaction from Facebook who could have commenced commercial negotiation to resolve the concerns, as did Google.
The lawsuits/demands from the Australian news organizations (backed by the Australian government) calling for payment from Facebook because of the way they are CURRENTLY including news LINKS on their website. Or was, until a day ago.
Because the crux of the argument still remains:
1. If you include LINKS in your website, you should not be liable to pay (to the sites being linked to).
2. If you include actual third party content on your website (beyond the small snippets allowed by law) essentially news articles in their entirety, you need to work out an agreement with the owners of that content. Which Facebook is perfectly willing to do, and has been doing.
This whole brouhaha was never about point 2. So can we drop that now, and go back to point 1: why does Facebook need to pay for LINKS again?
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2 hours ago, simple1 said:
Not entirely accurate, Facebook Australia News product planning below.
“We were prepared to launch Facebook News in Australia and significantly increase our investments with local publishers,
A bit more info on Facebook News worldwide product planning...
In summary Facebook were already planning to pay for news services. IMO a great deal of noise driven by Zuckerberg's ego, but will do a deal with Oz government.
This is a new product from Facebook that has nothing to do with the current lawsuit demanding money from Facebook.
Current situation: Facebook users links to news articles (and possibly a short excerpt usually provided by the news site itself). News organizations often publish news articles and links on Facebook themselves, in an effort to drive traffic to their owns websites. For this, the news organizations in Australia want to be paid hundreds of millions.
Facebook news is a very new product from Facebook, launched literally a few days ago. They are working with news organizations in terms of payment for content. The way I understand it, if Facebook and news organization cannot come to an agreement to the dollars amount, then Facebook cannot and will not include content from that news organization (other than links, which isn't content stealing). Quote from your second linked article:
"It could pay millions of dollars to news publications for licensing fees to run their stories on Facebook, according to The Wall Street Journal."
So, current situation = no content stealing, hence Facebook doesn't want to pay. New product (Facebook news) : Facebook is in negotiations with news organizations about licensing payments.
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1 hour ago, donnacha said:Facebook do not publish news content. They allow users to link to websites outside Facebook. France and Australia, however, are creating new laws to made it illegal to link to certain websites unless you pay them money.
Well said. There is a misunderstanding among some BMs here. They somehow think that Facebook is stealing content i.e. republishing news articles in their entirety. Facebook isn't. They publish A LINK to that news article, the link will take you to that website (to bbc.com, for example). If anything, Facebook is driving user traffic to the news websites.
There is often a short paragraph underneath that link on Facebook. I believe that paragraph is written by Facebook giving users an idea what the linked article is about.
So once again, Facebook does not publish other people's news articles on Facebook's website. They only publish a link. How exactly is that stealing content?
The real issue is this: news organizations have seen their revenue plummet with the advent of the internet. They have argued that proper news organizations are integral to a democracy, and as such, they should not be allowed to descent into shabbiness, due to lack of funds. The Australian government eminently agrees. So therefore, somebody needs to come up with those funds = someone needs to pay. And that someone has been identified as Facebook and Google, even though they there is no good law or logic to say that they should.
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31 minutes ago, ChipButty said:Good job he didn't leave a review on Trip Advisor
TripAdvisor actually did a good job assisting the farang who filed the report.
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2 hours ago, Blumpie said:
Why is nobody concerned about this?
Yes, the price of fruit will go way way up!
Great news for the Thai farmers and resellers, right?
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21 minutes ago, Felt 35 said:Whatever, Btw, "Songkran in Thailand is celebrated on a low scale between Thais in many European countries but to make it a Public Holiday would be considered making the European's observe a Thai Public holiday.
What does it even matter how much of percentage of Thais have Chinese ancestry? They can decide for themselves which holidays they want to celebrate, even if it has zero relevance. Not for some foreigners to come in and tell them whether they should, or should not, celebrate a holiday.
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17 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:
For those in the know. What would be the effect of this aircraft (the Boeing 737 max) being grounded permanently? It seems that many are convinced that it is an inherently unsafe aircraft, certainly, as a layman whose only flying experience was a bit of gliding donkeys years ago I would be concerned that its apparent inherent instability has been overcome with a software rewrite!
If grounded presumably Boeing would have to buy back all the aircraft it sold, and hope to be able to sell a replacement type. Would it finish them off? Are they "too big to fail"?
It doesn't sound like the 737 Max will be grounded at all. On the contrary.
"The crashes led to the plane's grounding for 20 months in March 2019 that was only lifted in November after Boeing made significant safety upgrades."
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3 minutes ago, ChrissUdon said:
Same as those above Thaichana keeps returning 'No Internet' when registering. Internet works fine both 5G and 2 4G.....
Keep trying. I just installed it, and at 2 screens it told me "no internet". Had to retry about half a dozen times on each screen before success.
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