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Instead of addressing the argument, go to intent. Mind-reading much?

What's your point? What you outlined is not a question.

So what exactlyl does unsatisfactory mean? What plans has Israel offered that could make a significant difference and not force the Palestinians to flee South. You're right. Israel doesn't need to control the border to push them out. But it help them to avoid a confrontation with Egyptian forces. I was afraid for a moment that you wouldn't explain why the issue of settling Palestinians in Egypt has been laid to rest. Egypt doesn't think so. And why, even if it isn't called "settling" but something like "sheltering", why it wouldn't turn into "settling". It's a good thing for your argument that it's just me criticizing Israeli strategy & tactics and not, among others, the US government. Because if that were the case, it would invalidate your critique. As for denying the return of Palestinians. Egypt has built 3 lines of berms and a wall. And done a quite thorough job on tunnels. And doesn't Israel have such things as robotic machine guns at its disposal? I seem to recall something about that.

I already replied to both you and Morch about his. Here's my reply to you: And for a lagniappe, here's my reply to Morch:

Why is that obvious? The claim is that weapons are still getting through the border. The evidence is....? As the Times of Israel article pointed out, Egypt has taken even stronger measures to stop smuggling. The NY Times article also addressed that issue.

And you think Egypt's level of concern hasn't changed from almost 4 months ago now that there are 1.45 million Palestinians living on the border and actually under threat? That Israel has put increasing pressure on Egypt to take over the Philadelphi border?

Apart from the fact that the most uncritical supporters of Israel are Evangelicals who comprise a big portion of the Republican base.

Well, for one thing..;. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egypt-reportedly-steps-up-security-on-border-as-idf-offensive-in-rafah-nears/ For another... Gaza has a border on the Mediterranean. For another, it gets some of them delivered by air from a surprising source Where Is Hamas Getting Its Weapons? Increasingly, From Israel. The very weapons that Israeli forces have used to enforce a blockade of Gaza are now being used against them. https://archive.ph/ipeKM#selection-4215.0-4219.109

I did enjoy your comment that none of the options offered by the IDF seemed "fully satisfactory". This looks like an officialese way of saying that the are impracticable. But if not, please explain not "fully satisfactory" means. If it was just me citing what Egypt believes, you might have a point. But it isn't. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/egypt-gaza-israel-war.html And someone would have to be living in a denial of reality to doubt that given the assault on Rafah and Israel pressuring to take over the southern border, Egypt wouldn't feel alarmed. There is this from that article: Mr. Netanyahu has said that Israel must control the zone, known as the Philadelphi Corridor, and analysts say Egypt is worried that Israel wants to seize it as a means to push Gazans into Sinai. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/egypt-gaza-israel-war.html And there is an article from Reuters datelined February 9th that says Egyptian fears of a cross border incursion have been sharpened by the refugee crisis in Southern Israel: I can't quote or link to Reuters but since you have the dateline and if you string together the words Egypt Security Israeli Offensive Gaza Reuters together (feel free to copy and paste) that article will pop up. Instead you just assert that the issue of settling Palestinians in Egypt has been settled and laid to rest. As for my response to that, see above. And, of course I argued no arguments absolving Hamas. I criticized Israeli strategy and tactics. A critique hardly offered by me alone. But thanks for setting up the straw man. Any more arguments you would care to falsely ascribe to me? As for the last point that you called nonsense. Do you honestly have no idea what Facts On The Ground Means. I guess I'll have to spell out the obvious to you. If Palestinians do cross the border into Egypt and are settled in refugee camps there, why wouldn't it be a legitimate fear that Israel won't let them back in? That it won't take advantage of this exodus? Because it's unprecedented in Israel's short history?

What has this got to do with the Egypt's increasing fear of a Gazan refugees flooding into Egypt due to the current Israeli assault on Rafah?

There's no evidence that Israel is using cluster bombs in Gaza. They are using bombs that do weigh a ton or more. But they are not cluster bombs.

Really, you discussed what effect the assault on Rafah is having on Egypt's fears about the border? Of course it stands to reason that they are more fearful now. And do you realize that by asking that question you undermine your point?

About that claim that Hamas is using tunnels between it and Egypt to transport weapons: Not only has Egypt for its own reason been very diligent about patrolling the zone, but even smugglers says that smuggling has stopped thanks to Egypt's strict enforcement. You can read about it in the article I linked to above. In fact, Egypt and Israel have been cooperating very closely on enforcement of the Gaza Egypt border.

To state the obvious: stronger.

Thanks for either avoiding or not understanding the issue. The question isn't whether those fears were discussed earlier, but how have recent events affected those fears.

The subject of this thread is the Israeli assault on Rafah. It was launched yesterday at 6:47 AM Nowhere in htis has this issue been discussed & settled. Apparently, you believe that whatever conclusions you reached elsewhere are somehow dispositive.

To the point of denial of reality. Let's take them one by one 1) Egypt doesn't really believe this:. It's undeniable that that the Israeli assault on Rafah will create huge pressure on the refugees to flee. So where are they going to go? Back North through a war zone? Why wouldn't Egypt believe a Palestinian cross-border incursion is a very strong and credible possibility? As for Israel no longer trying to do get Egypt to let the Palestinians in ... as I'm sure you're aware, Israel has been pressuring Egypt to let it take over security on the southern border of Gaza. Egypt is seriously unhappy about that. Is it unreasonable for the Egyptians won't suspect that Israel has a lot less stake in keeping the border non-porous heading south than does Egypt? Put this under the heading of More Than One Way to Skin a Cat. 2)It's Hamas' fault: The all purpose justification. This of course depends on the belief that the strategy and tactics that Israel is employing are necessary. The US certainly is increasingly unhappy with the way Israel has prosecuted this war. 3) Reversibility. Why wouldn't the Israelis wouldn't use Facts On The Ground to their advantage? That it wouldn't find reasons not to let the Palestinians back in?

Do ya think their fears have gotten stronger, stayed the same, or gotten weaker since Israel announced its intentions to stage in a major operation in Rafah?

You want some more encouraging news? Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189

Another reflexive counter argument. What is news is that Israel is apparently planning to launch a major assault on Rafah where roughly 1.45 million Palestinians have sought refuge. You think that's irrelevant to Egypt's fear about Mass cross-border immigration? That it doesn't change the odds?

We've had some posters here scoffing at the notion that one of Israel's goals in this war is to drastically lower the Palestinian population of Gaza. I think at this point a good argument could be made that Israel has been gaslighting about its intentions. And it looks like Egypt is at least open to that argument: Egypt Warily Eyes Gaza as War Builds Pressure on Its Border Egypt has reinforced its frontier with Gaza and warned Israel that any move that would send Gazans spilling into Egyptian territory could jeopardize their decades-old peace treaty. https://archive.ph/uMDBP https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/egypt-gaza-israel-war.html I anticipate a few counterarguments: 1)The mindreading argument: Egypt doesn't really believe this. It's just for public consumption 2) It's Hamas' fault: If Hamas surrendered, there would be no need to force Palestinians into Egypt. 3)Reversibility: Even if these refugees do flee across the border, that doesn't mean that Israel won't let them back in. Keep in mind that during the early part of of the war, Israel actually negotiated with Egypt to allow refugees from Gaza to cross into Egypt. Egypt refused.

From the article: "The period from February 2023 to January 2024 saw a warming of 1.52°C, as reported by the EU's Copernicus Climate Change Service, underscoring the urgency for immediate action to curb emissions and address climate change."

I'm assuming your first link is to some system that removes CO2 from the air (the link connects to nothing). I don't see how it can be about removing it from the world unless it's sending it to outer space. And I still have no idea why you mentioned that human beings contain carbon. I didn't say your dinosaur link was false. In fact it affirms the relationship between CO2 and global temperatures. But what you don't seem to understand is the concept of rates. It took millions of years for the climate to get that hot. The rate of temperature increase is much faster now thanks to the release of CO2 into the atmosphere due to human activities. As for deaths caused by heat vs cold. First off, that addresses pathology. Increased droughts and increasing natural disasters don't enter into that tally. What's more, that list doesn't include deaths from chronic kidney disease (CKDu) which is rising rapidly as heat rises.

His concern for Americans is as touching as is mine for the dupes who buy into his sincerity.

There's only one Western leader we know he danced rings around. He got that one to see he believed Putin rather than his own intelligence services.