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20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:So, Trump was trying to go through the courts to legally reverse the election?
Read the indictment.
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7 minutes ago, heybruce said:
Prosecute the criminals that duped them.
BTW: What kind of clueless idiots were these fake electors?
They were told that their names would only be used if a court approved the alternate slate.
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Concerning the fake electors, some of them were duped, and had no idea they would be portrayed as real electors to the government.
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So, a DC grand jury is still working, either to indict the co-conspirators, or Trump's PAC (for fraud).
Or maybe both.
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3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:I do not disagree that Trump hid documents. And if he had state secrets that he was using or planning to use for nefarious reasons I would like him tried for treason and if found guilty, executed.
Yeah, but you are going to forget this overnight, and tomorrow you are going to ask again "why is only Trump being charged for having classified documents?".
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3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:Which does not change the fact that he was only illegally in possession of classified documents, thanks. Is that correct or not.
I do not disagree that Trump hid documents. And if he had state secrets that he was using or planning to use for nefarious reasons I would like him tried for treason and if found guilty, executed.
He has a dispute with the archives over what he wants to keep and what they want back.
The Presidential Records Act is quite clear as to what Trump can keep. Probably Trump will get back his personal stuff at some point after the trial.
What he can't keep are the national security documents.
As for Biden and Pence, since they did not willfully possess classified documents, its not illegal.
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6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
Lying is not illegal.
Trump did plenty of stuff that is illegal, so what's your point? Are you just randomly spouting comments in the hope that people forget that Trump has been indicted three times?
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2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:
So, he was only illegally in possession of a "handful" of classified documents, thanks. How many can one have before it becomes a crime?
When were they discovered? He sent a team of lawyers to get them.
You have no memory. The chronology of the Biden classified documents has now been posted here several times.
More to the point, Trump *hid* classified documents, but not a peep from you about that.
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19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
As soon as they knew thew would get caught more like.
And I doubt very much that "...both Pence and Biden allowed FBI teams to search all of their private spaces..." do you have anything that supports that?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_classified_documents_incident
"On January 20 the FBI conducted a 13-hour search of the entire premises of Biden's Wilmington home. The next day his personal attorney Bob Bauer revealed the search, saying that the agents had examined "personally handwritten notes, files, papers, binders, memorabilia, to-do lists, schedules, and reminders going back decades".[22] They identified and removed six documents containing classified markings from Biden's home office,[23] some from his time in the Senate and some from his vice presidency.[24] They also took possession of some of his notes. Biden and his wife were at their home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, at the time.[5][25] CNN reported the search was conducted with the consent of Biden's attorneys, so a subpoena or search warrant was not required."
You really don't remember any of this?
I guess that's why you are a Trump supporter, no memory. So when Trump lies about some past event, you just nod your head, because you can't remember what really happened.
Meanwhile, your Dear Leader has been indicted 3 times, and you have no idea why.
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7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:Ah the old you're a stupid Trumpist, and I was a CIA operative and now I am a brilliant billionaire philanthropist so all the unsupported garbage I spew should be considered fact argument.
Got it.
So, no disputing the facts in the post you responded to, just an ad hominem attack?
You seem to have an aversion to facts.
Classic Trump supporter. We had a similar group almost 200 years ago in America, the "Know Nothing" party.
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24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
So he had them illegally for 20 years, his lobbyist son had access to them and when he decided to prosecute Trump for having them legally and refusing to return them, he told his lawyers to give them back.
Got it, thanks.
There were a handful of classified documents hidden among Biden's historical papers. When they were discovered, the government was immediately notified, and the documents returned.
If you believe that warrants prosecution, then how about Trump stealing 100s of documents, violating a subpoena, and hiding the documents? Don't you think that Trump should be prosecuted for that?
Thanks for playing.
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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:Obstruction of what?
Failure to comply with a subpeona in regards to return of classified documents.
It seems that you wake up every day with no memory of the facts of these cases.
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19 hours ago, Yellowtail said:Yes, I see the difference, they are not Trump.
Do understand the difference between cooperating with the government to return classified documents, and hiding them?
C'mon, it's not a hard question to answer. Show us you're not a troll.
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21 minutes ago, Neeranam said:Simple really, would they be trying to proceed so quickly if he wasn't running for president?
Of course not. Therefore........
2.5 years to indict for January 6, but you think they are proceeding quickly?
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11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:An 'alleged fact' sounds like an oxymoron to me.
I'm sure Trump is corrupt, as all politicians are, I'm standing up for fair treatment of both sides of the Great US divide, which is obvious to an impartial bystander like me.
There us a witch hunt against Trump, and the instigators are using this for their political advantage.
Please provide any information that contradicts the alleged facts in the indictment.
To the extent that you bloviate rather than address the content of the indictment, you admit the facts are true. And, if the facts are true, Trump is guilty.
Have a nice day.
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8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:The reason for the indictment, nothing else. Shown by there desparation to proceed so quickly.
The DoJ, the government, are so corrupt it's pathetic.
You really think that DOJ is corrupt?
Are you that deep down in the rabbit hole?
Rather than casting aspersions on the prosecutor, how about criticizing the content of the 45 page indictment? Can you tell us if any of the alleged facts are false?
If you can't, then you are telling us that the indictment is valid.
And if the indictment is valid, then its Trump who is corrupt, not the DOJ.
Thanks for playing.
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22 minutes ago, watthong said:No, they got a lot of return for whatever capitql they doled out...For just a line or two, embedded with a few button-pushing choice words, they would usually get back a screenful of logic and facts for rebuttal....which they use to wipe their behind with, then rinse and repeat.
In other words, they provoke posting of a lot of facts damaging to Trump. I'm not sure how that help their Dear Leader.
Eventually, a lot of these types are going to realize that Trump despises them, and is just using them.
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7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:They managed to keep that quiet, dept of justice searching Biden's home, the second place he had classified docs.
Get it together DoJ, the whole world is observing your bias.
Actually, the FBI kept the search at Mar-A-Lago quiet.
It was Trump who disclosed the search publicly.
Either you have no memory, or you are poorly informed. Too much FOX News for you!
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34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:So that's a no, you don't know the allegations. Thanks.
Those indeed are allegations in the classified documents case.
Do you anything truthful to post, or are you just here to troll everyone? Yes, I know you are having a sad because your Dear Leader is in trouble, but can't you control yourself?
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29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:Yes, I see the difference, they are not Trump.
Do you now understand that many people have been jailed for willful retention of classified documents?
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19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:This is just not true, do you have anything that support this?
I am amazed you post so much and know so little.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_classified_documents_incident
"On November 2, 2022, Biden's attorneys discovered the first set of classified documents in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center; they reported them that day to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which retrieved them the next day. "
"In coordination with the Justice Department (DOJ), Biden's attorneys discovered a second set of documents at Biden's home on December 20, followed by several more on January 9 and January 12, 2023. Biden's personal attorney said on January 21 that the Justice Department discovered six items containing classification markings during a consensual search of his home the previous day, some of which dated to his tenure in the Senate; investigators also seized some of Biden's handwritten notes from his vice presidency."
I hope you understand the difference between immediate cooperation and *hiding* classified documents, which is what Trump did.
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1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:On that basis, Biden also broke the law by having classified documents in his garage. So maybe Biden should be charged under the same law.
As soon as the documents were discovered, they were given back to the government.
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39 minutes ago, Neeranam said:Yet, you try to ridicule those who vote differently to yourself and how you are better educated.
As an unbiased observer in this polarity, it is rather disturbing the supremacy views by the Biden cult. While there may be a some rednecks and truck drivers and even people who can't read, there are supporters who have very good jobs and went to better universities than you did.
Just take a look at the posts you wrote today and think about how an impartial would see them.
My last word on the matter, cult members can't debate rationally.
Biden cult? Really?
Meanwhile, the Trump cult members are here inventing excuses for their thrice-indicted Dear Leader. You may notice how their posts get further from reality, until they just disappear.
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1 hour ago, Neeranam said:
You do know these are allegations?
Are there felony indictments that don't contain allegations?
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Trump charged with four counts over 2020 election
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No State is actually doing this, although some individuals in some states are making noises about doing this.
Note that Trump has not even been charged with sedition, let alone convicted.