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3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:So Chonburi has had an increase again. Is it because of clusters, chicken factories, or is it in the public markets and bar/entertainment centers?
According to the Pattaya News, its due to finding 2 new clusters.
But, this begs the question of whether Whack a Mole is going to be effective. By the time a cluster is identified, the virus may have already spread elsewhere.
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2 minutes ago, DavisH said:duh...1 case a day would show a "clear upward trend". Aside from trying to mislead readers, what is your point?
Brian’s point is clear: there has been a small increase in cases over the last few weeks- this wave cannot go away until cases start to decrease.
The big question is whether this increase - which is caused by the emergence of hotspots in the greater Bangkok area - will dissipate as clusters are eliminated, or will the clusters expand citywide....
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On 5/31/2021 at 2:58 PM, tlandtday said:
So many have their panties in a knot. It is a virus similar to a bad flu. And it does not stalk between the hours of 11-4 and it does not drink alcohol before attacking.
Over 3 million dead so far. This is the worst global pandemic in 100 years.
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13 hours ago, elliss said:
Good point .
So can Covid be detected in the blood . ??
Doing away , with the un-scientific test ,
of a swab into the Nasal channels ...
Covid antibodies can be detected by a blood sample.
Amazingly, anyone who has been diagnosed with Covid-19 via nasal swab will have Covid antibodies in their blood, within a week of their RT-PCR test. Funny how that works.
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45 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
Death by drowning is death by drowning be it water or vomit. Lungs fill with a liquid and you die. If you are lucky and don't die you might end up getting pneumonia or another type of lung infection. One of the more common conditions that causes fluid in the lungs is pulmonary edema. Left untreated it can result in the person drowning in their own fluids.
Getting back to the point, a diagnosis of pneumonia does not necessarily mean that a fatality died of influenza.
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5 minutes ago, huangnon said:"Simple common sense" might indicate Covid. It might also indicate other coronaviruses such as influenza, a severe cold, pneumonia, pleurisy, emphysema, or a whole host of other pulmonary diseases.
A PCR-test set over >35 cycles will record all of these diseases (plus long-dormant particles from any number of viruses you may have contracted in the past).
See pages "Limitations" 39-40 of the attached file from the CDC:
Common sense is not as common as previously thought.
Nope.
You have introduced the standard CDC guidance in order to create doubt about RT-PCR tests.
That's like a Flat Earther introducing a GPS information pamphlet as proof the Earth is flat.
PCR Tests have a high degree of reliability. Not perfect, but very good. Of course, RT-PCR tests cannot detect other diseases, so it cannot rule out syphilis or whatever else the patient might have.
PCR Tests detect the Covid-19 virus specifically. The test does not respond to the cold virus, or other diseases. You are simply spreading misinformation now.
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44 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:
Nah, someone said earlier that if someone drowns it's pneumonia.Just using his logic.
You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here.
Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand.
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52 minutes ago, Paiman said:I can see where you are coming from.
For future reference it may be much safer to do X-rays on a monthly base, just to confirm you have no broken bones in your body.
This is your kind of logic.
It’s not my logic, testing is important in containing the epidemic. Of course, you don’t believe there is an epidemic, so basic common sense does not apply to you.
By the way, the Earth isn’t flat.
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32 minutes ago, huangnon said:Nonsense. "Everyone who dies of Covid has previously tested positive in a PCR test" is meaning what? They were admitted into hospital with obviously serious illnesses initially, tested positive for Covid and then died.? Quelle surprise..
Initially healthy people under 60yo do not die of this virus, period. Stacking up panic by creating 'cases' with a PCR-test set to above 35 cycles (as initially instructed by the CDC and Dr Fauci) is a totally false narrative.
Errr.. your logic made a turn into the dumpster there.
Someone is admitted into a hospital with symptoms of Covid. They test posivite for Covid. Repeatedly. Then, after a few weeks in the hospital, they die.
simple common sense would tell you that they died of Covid.
but, I guess you think you know more than the doctors and medical researchers, too bad you flunked science and biology in school.
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5 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:
If someone tests positive for the virus and drowns they will be recorded as a covid death because he died of pneumonia.
Did you dream that?
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58 minutes ago, rott said:
There are (or were) a lot of bars in Central Pattaya and no reports of any infections. Plenty at markets.
Doesn't prove anything, just a fact.
There were many reports of infections in bars in Central Pattaya last month.
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3 minutes ago, Paiman said:
If I test 1 million men for pregnancy with a test that has an error rate of 0,005%, I will get 5000 pregnant men. Just Mathematics.
But everybody knows men can not give birth to babies.
I am concerned about the men, which as result of the test, will ask for a prescription of the contraceptive pill.
Just saying......Start your ranting.
No. Following your logic, the 5000 false positives require re-testing, with the result that the issue goes away.
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12 minutes ago, mortenaa said:
The question is, do the restrictions do anything for infections? Infections happen at home or at the workplace. Masks and social distancing doesn't work for an airborne virus. There is absolutely no correlation. People walking around in nature with masks on. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
The virus kills one in 50,000 people under 50. Vaccinate the vulnerable, and let us get on with our lives.Disinformation post
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1 hour ago, Excel said:
You were told this and the forecast for increasing cases many weeks ago yet you came back with some preposterous answers that earned you some ridicule. Now it seems the penny has finally dropped and you finally are beginning to see the troubling upward trend with almost zero practical responses from this corrupt ad incompetent government. Let's hope we are all wrong, but it's a big hope.
Your hope regarding herd immunity is pie in the sky hopes too based on opinion of virologists and behavioural professionals with the rapidly developing variants and human complacency creeping in with the thinking now that herd immunity is almost unattainable which leaves vaccines, and their ongoing tweaking , to be the only solution. Unfortunately Thailand due to corruption, incompetence and other factors are light years away from achieving that nationwide , indeed if they ever wanted to that is.
I was told this even when the numbers were flatlined.
Maybe next week, infections will go down. I am just saying that the current recent trend is troubling, but I am not saying it can’t be turned around.
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30 minutes ago, WhatsNext said:
To put things in perspective a little bit, date from causes of death in Thailand for the year 2018, before covid :
"According to the latest WHO data published in 2018 Influenza and Pneumonia Deaths in Thailand reached 44,549 or 9.11% of total deaths. The age adjusted Death Rate is 47.82 per 100,000 of population ranks Thailand #70 in the world. Review other causes of death by clicking the links below or choose the full health profile."
This is data from the WHO. 44.549 deaths in that year due to influenza (!), we are far, far away from that number with Covid. Hysteria and madness for reasons unknown.
The problem with that statistic is that pneumonia may not be a result of the flu. For example, death by drowning is pneumonia, as well. Lung cancer may cause the lungs to fill with fluid, as another example.
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1 hour ago, Excel said:
You were told this and the forecast for increasing cases many weeks ago yet you came back with some preposterous answers that earned you some ridicule. Now it seems the penny has finally dropped and you finally are beginning to see the troubling upward trend with almost zero practical responses from this corrupt ad incompetent government. Let's hope we are all wrong, but it's a big hope.
Your hope regarding herd immunity is pie in the sky hopes too based on opinion of virologists and behavioural professionals with the rapidly developing variants and human complacency creeping in with the thinking now that herd immunity is almost unattainable which leaves vaccines, and their ongoing tweaking , to be the only solution. Unfortunately Thailand due to corruption, incompetence and other factors are light years away from achieving that nationwide , indeed if they ever wanted to that is.
Vaccination is a path to herd immunity.
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1 minute ago, darksidedog said:Looking across the whole last month, it shows a pretty steady 2,000 cases a day, without huge rises or falls. Not going away, but not spreading like a bushfire yet either. We can only hope as vaccination finally gets rolling that the numbers will start to tilt downwards.
The slowly rising number of daily cases is troubling. Given the slow rollout of vaccines, there is the potential for death by strangulation of the Thai economy, where case numbers continue to rise, and herd immunity isn’t reached until sometime in 2022.
The good news is that most cases are in the greater Bangkok area.
Whack a mole as a strategy for dealing with this wave could fail if there are simply too many hotspots, or if hotspots return again after initial elimination.
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8 minutes ago, keith101 said:
Wont be long before Thailand crosses the 200,000 new cases mark and on up from there . The big question from there is will wee see deaths in the 2,000 range which with so many serious/critical is quite possible .
Based on the current trend, there will be over 2,000 cumulative deaths from this wave.
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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:
Just recieved interesting news from someone at a local temple. 10 people who have died from covid have been cremated in the past 3 days at this temple. Adjacent province to BKK. Came in refrigerated vans. No relatives. These people came from BKK as I'm told BKK temples cannot cope. This is and I hate to say this spillover. I think these may be covid deaths of migrant workers from covid camps. No one other than people in PPE including the monks in PPE are present. This maybe a huge cover up. This is just one temple. It can't be the only one.
Lots of infections in provinces adjacent to Bangkok, per official figures.
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5 hours ago, dinsdale said:Ok Danderman here's your moment. 1: Do you agree with govt figures? 2: Do you trust the govt? These are two yes/no answers. So, yes or no. No expanding, no ranting just yes or no. 1: Y/N. 2: Y/N. I await your two word response well three really because you will have to use the conjuction and. Let me assist you further. e.g. Y and N. Y and Y. N and Y. N and N. I assume you get the idea. If we could lay bets on this site you answering in the allotted 3 words would bring long odds.
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9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:
Hmm, I hadn’t read that. Where did you get the information from?
Can you imagine why there is a mutation in India? Or Brazil?
But not Luxembourg......?
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1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:
No.....Danders said the numbers are going down.
The Thai authorities have said the numbers in Chonburi are going down. Do you disagree with them?
Thailand reports 2,631 new COVID-19 cases, 31 new deaths
in Thailand News
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Very careful wording: “first lot of 1.5 million doses” can mean they received 1.5 million doses OR some small part of an eventual 1.5 million doses that will come Real Soon Now.