Danderman123

I guess you slept during your science classes. There are natural forces that force climate change. The strongest natural forces provide the climate changes that cause Ice Ages. We emerged from the last Ice Age some 12,000 years ago, and reached the warmest interglacial point some 8,000 years ago. Since then, natural forces have been cooling the planet, with occasional dips. But recent human pollution is forcing warming, and these artificial forces are overwhelming natural forces, particularly since the 1970's.

Au contraire, the Sun's solar cycles do not correspond to the current warming. https://astronomy.com/news/2015/08/corrected-sunspot-history-suggests-climate-change-since-the-industrial-revolution-not-due-to-natural-solar-trends Corrected sunspot history suggests climate change since the Industrial Revolution not due to natural solar trends After uncovering a major calibration error, scientists show that the newly corrected sunspot numbers now provide a homogenous record of solar activity dating back some 400 years.

Only in your mind. In the Real World, temperatures are rising. Here's a graph from Dr. Roy Spencer, a Global Warming skeptic, showing warming since 1979. He's one of the people who calibrated the instruments on the weather satellites. As long as your argument is based on inability to read a graph, nobody will take you seriously. Instead, you could acknowledge that the world is warming but argue that it's no big deal.

Except for those pesky scientists who disagree with you: https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/2020-was-one-of-three-warmest-years-record

The graph is current. You simply cannot read it. I'll give you another one.

I spend every day building a solar power system for my condo.

Nope. You cannot read a simple graph.

You will hear many times that scientists 30 years accurately predicted the current warming.

Nope. You have fallen for the lie that grad students are faking data for the big bucks. Let me ask you this: If a scientist wanted to make money, wouldn't they take a job with the oil companies and claim that Global Warming isn't real?

It already has.

You don't seem to understand the concept of calibration. If you don't know how things work, then you don't trust the results. Which makes you think scientists are idiots. I would bet money that, if you were in charge, you could figure out a way to make sure that temperature measurements could me made valid across decades.

No, I am saying that oil company employees make more money than scientists in universities.

You are comparing the salaries of scientists vs oil company employees. This is a trope among less well informed posters, that Global Warming is just a scheme to enrich graduate students.

Ignorance is bliss, eh? BTW, the Big Boys are old guys who don't worry about investment dollars 20 years down the road. https://news.miami.edu/rosenstiel/stories/2021/10/miamis-ocean-scientists-have-been-documenting-sea-level-rise-for-decades-now-they-urge-action-to-save-our-city.html https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/climate-change-sea-level-rise-miami-beaches-spring-break

You don't seem to understand the ramifications of sea level rise. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazards/sealevelrise/sealevelrise-tech-report.html Ignorance is bliss, huh?

I got it. You know more than the scientists. So, why are the glaciers melting?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/thailand-notches-highest-temperature-on-record-as-monster-heat-wave-roasts-southeast-asia/1514765

you do realize that half the people who died from Covid were under the average age. I suspect that your position boils down to "I didn't die, so Covid is a hoax".

So, people in Bangkok can just move to higher ground?

Nope. The scientists are not lying. You just are capable of ignoring facts. There was someone here who recently posted that Global Warming is real, but how big a problem is it? That is a reasonable question to ask. But, simply asserting that scientists are lying is childish.

There are a million dead Americans who would tell you to be afraid of Covid, except they are dead.

So you culturally are disinclined to listen to scientists. That doesn't help your argument.

In or about the year 1000, there were Vikings living in Greenland. The temperature dropped a fraction of a degrees globally, what do you think happened to those Vikings?

Perhaps you can't imagine what will happen if the rivers flowing out of the Tibetan plateau dry up. You might consider that scientists who study this are alarmed.

Clearly, you don't understand the ramifications of a global temperature increase of a degree, let alone 2 or 3. It reminds me of a dinosaur commenting that a meteor only 5 km wide is not that big a deal.