Morch

You do not live in the Middle East. And the two alleged 'motives' are not mutually exclusive.

Yawn. Get over it. Some staffer messed up. Happens.

The hostage swap ratio was something set by Hamas (and in earlier days, the Fatah etc.). Do you think that they will agree to a 1 for 1 swap this time? Again, you expect Israel to value Palestinian lives, more than Palestinians do.

It's only 'obvious' if one has not clue what 'targeting' means. If Israel was out to kill civilians, the death toll would have been higher. If someone displays this level of ignorance, then his military 'advice' should be ignored. Israel is not obligated to value Palestinians' lives over Israeli lives. Israel is not obligated to to care more about Palestinians' than the Palestinians' own government. IDF soldiers are Israeli citizens. Hamas could field his own men and face them, rather than asking Palestinian civilians to do so. You whine about other poster playing 'arbiter' on the forum. Apparently you see yourself as being an 'arbiter' on a way bigger scale. Amusing. Precision bombing is a thing. It doesn't imply pinpoint precision. If Israel was using Hamas style bombing, there would be more dead Palestinians, and less buildings around.

What criminal acts is Israel committing against its own people?

Direct your questions at the Palestinian leadership. They started this war. They did not do anything to protect their people. They urged their people to stand their ground. They do not open their underground facilities to save these women and children. Murder is what Hamas did. What you see now is what happens in every war. Not the same.

I don't know if Hamas (or Israel) will agree, but reports of 'deal' mediated by Qatar are along such lines: ceasefire, release of hostages for something (guess release of Hamas prisoners held by Israel). Some reports say it's in pretty advanced stages, but who knows? Previous negotiations on such matters took way longer.

"It'd be a shame to have to ignore yours as well, but easily done if necessary." Teaser....

I think launching them rocket requires electricity as well...? Same goes staying in deep underground facilities. As for the 'nowhere safe' nonsense - if what you claim was true, death toll would be higher.

Yes, and? If this is one of your usual twisting, nitpicking attempts to claim/imply I said something - give it a rest.

Well, dunno.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine#Casualties, Either way, I agree with you that the way the British withdrew, not to mention the lame partition plan, did nothing but ensure war will erupt. Maybe there was a way to do it better, and maybe not.

Israel: Hamas terror group’s main operations base is under Shifa Hospital in Gaza City https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-hamas-terror-groups-main-operations-base-is-under-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city/ Notice that bit about the hospital's power supply? Maybe that's why....

Waffle. Nothing much to do with what i posted.

Not interested in your contrived nonsense posts.

Hamas official storms out of BBC interview when asked about Israeli civilians killed https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-official-storms-out-of-bbc-interview-when-asked-about-israeli-civilians-killed/ Not up to date on current debate tactics - you don't storm out, you simply put an 'ignore' and get on with it....

I did not say anything about sympathy or about you. I do not 'prefer genocide' and there is no 'genocide'. Please don't call my a warmonger, I liked 'community insulter' much better.

It is good to me as well as that.

How about light and air for them brave Hamas men in their deep tunnels? Also, you're no rocket scientist, obviously.

Oh, Hamas 'assumed control'? Gee, I was under the impression they were elected. By Palestinians. By Gazans. Why is there no need to talk about Hamas? Why don't the people of Gaza, the UN, HRW and the Queen of Jordan go asking the supplies from them?

Interesting that you should put words in my mouth. Not surprising, though. 'I just did. I do." - that was in reply to your 'Call it virtue signalling if you like bit. So maybe rethink your post above.

I just did. I do. I'm not interested in your virtue signalling 'statements'. You want to say something, drop the nonsense. Gave you something to chew on in my previous reply, maybe think about it. Get some context.

^ Virtue signaling alert. Just as this war started, there were urgent statements that things will reach unsustainable level within days. It's been 20 days now. Go figure. Also, maybe you should send your complaints to the Hamas, seeing as they take their share of anything that comes into Gaza. Or do you think their underground bunkers etc. aren't well supplied? Why don't they share with their brethren? Why don't they care about the people under their rule?

Quiet a few of the people killed in the Hamas attack weren't Jews, or even Israelis. Interesting choice there, 'Jews' vs. 'Palestinians'. Not 'Israelis', not 'Muslims'.

You can always try and find acceptable sources, like most people do. There's a forum policy regarding sources etc., nothing to do with your nonsense allegations.

And your point is? I mean, other than quoting casualty figures supplied by Hamas?