stevenl

Why the threat of an arrest warrant, has the cabbie violated any laws?

lol

seriously?

Every society has social problems? maybe. But not many society have a problem where students from different school try to KILL each other on a daily basis.

Can you quote any news source to corroborate that claim. Sure there a youth gang killings, but inter school violence/killings - I've never read that... ??

Havent you ?? Inter school (college) violence is not an uncommon theme in Thailand.

Just did the news sources. That kid shot on the bus, gang fights, very much a theme but no worse than a day at the football.

We were talking Phuket here. Or do you want to talk about the campus shootings, youth gang killings in the US as well? And what is the connection between gang fights and students from different schools trying to kill eachother? Judging from the news it is all turf related, not school related (they seem to be hanging around in stead of going to school).

lol

seriously?

Every society has social problems? maybe. But not many society have a problem where students from different school try to KILL each other on a daily basis.

Don't partially quote, against forum etiquette to leave out an important part of a sentence.

I understand this is a new sponsor, but 'see map for directions'? Where is Big Bill's deli, somewhere in Bangkok?

Edit: just found they're in Patong somewhere.

Ok, so, most on TV agree that one of the decent International Schools on Phuket is where their 50/50 kids should go, if parents can afford to send their kids there. I totally agree, and for the reasons I have set out previously, mainly, the schools accreditation would allow them enterance into either an International University in Thailand, or a university anywhere in the west.

For me, a problem still exists when they finish school and/or univerisity or a trade in the west. Their job prospects here are minimal and their earning capacity diminished.

HKP has stated he would support his kids in anything they chose, as any parent would do, however, to pay big money for an

International School education and then a university here, or in the west, or sending your kid home, fully funded, to be trained in a trade, just to see them come back to Phuket as an English teacher or dive instructor, for me, would not be a desirable outcome and the best use of their education. Sure, a great lifestyle, but is it a serious long term career?

So, the question still exists, and we haven't heard from any parents, or 50/50 adults, about what they are doing, what REAL career opportunities, or decent long term employment opportunities, exist here for a 50/50 uni graduate or a kid who is western trade qualified, and what sort of salary would they be earning?

NOTE: I have not speculated on what industries may be expanding, or shrinking here, in 10 to 15 years time, or any discrimination that may occur in the workplace against someone who is 50/50.

This is my point (perhaps made in the other thread) there IS schooling here, sure it costs some money but not a great deal in the scheme of things..

However the issue of the kind of 'elite' social strata they may run with hasnt been touched. The spoiled rich Thais (the kind who run BMW's into bus stops of people, or illegally drive new Hondas into a mini bus on an overpass.. You I am sure know the kind I mean) have a seriously high ego content and a lack of consequence to their lives. We can all hope to raise kids to be better than that, but it has to be said that growing up in that social set will have a formative aspect on them.

But my main point was, outside of education.. What does a young expat kid, or a Luk Krung, do aside from try to make TV commercials ?? I have met a few, decent enough young kids, but I dont see the prospects for them. Theres little entrepreneurship possible, little in the way of 'learning to earn' as all lower end jobs are taken for the kind of salaries that wouldnt make any point doing. They will always be trapped to a low rung on the local ladder.

And that is the same back home.

For schooling/work kids will go elsewhere, and every society, whether it be a small rural town or a big city, has it's social problems for a kid, just as Phuket has, as Bangkok will have, etc. So the situation for kids will be the same: good parents will prepare them and can only hope things work out ok, both socially and educationally. And whereever they go they will experience problems, their own unique sets of problems.

I thought we were discussing expat children ?? Or at least 50/50 ??

So they would have citizenship and legal right to work... No restrictions.

Read the original post, the reference here was to Thai workers.

Ok, so, most on TV agree that one of the decent International Schools on Phuket is where their 50/50 kids should go, if parents can afford to send their kids there. I totally agree, and for the reasons I have set out previously, mainly, the schools accreditation would allow them enterance into either an International University in Thailand, or a university anywhere in the west.

Clarify please. Do you mean "Ok, so, most on TV agree that British International School on Phuket is where their 50/50 kids should go, if parents can afford to send their kids there. I totally agree, and for the reasons I have set out previously, mainly, the school's accreditation would allow them enterance into either an International University in Thailand, or a university anywhere in the west."; or:

"Ok, so, most on TV agree that one of the decent international schools on Phuket is where their 50/50 kids should go, if parents can afford to send their kids there. I totally agree, and for the reasons I have set out previously, mainly, the schools' accreditations would allow them enterance into either an International University in Thailand, or a university anywhere in the west."

what is 2000 baht of fine, in the country without meters and a 20 km trip costs 1500 baht

You must be an extremely bad negotioator.

Bit hard to negotiate when it's late at night, raining, and every driver you speak to says. "1500 baht." (it's called collusion) That's when you get on the phone to your "Black Taxi" driver.

BS. Except on NY eve these prices don't happen, not even on Phuket.

Also in the Uk and the rest of the west, people seeking university education move away from home. Sometimes they return, sometimes not.

Why would that be any different from here?

Since there officially are tests, I very much doubt it can be done by post.

But maybe somebody else can confirm/deny this.

Sure there is a big market there.

You're all thinking out of a western perspective, calling the asian market a niche market? And looking down on it? Way bigger than any European market, and growing steadily. That's where even more money will be made in the future.

70,000 baht per month is good money for a Thai. What would they be paid, doing the same job, in the west???? Oh, that's right, they can't do the same job in the west because they have a Thai education and a degree from a Thai uni that isn't recognised in the west.

Please specify 'west' and where a Thai uni degree is not recognised? And also a source please for that 'not recognised in the west'.

A few far more plausible reasons for them not working in the west are that they don't want to work there, and that the labour markets in 'the west' are very, very restricted. Nearly impossible for a Thai to get into any of the countries in 'the west', let alone work there with the exception of the jobs the 'western' labour force does not want to do anymore. And even those jobs are very difficult to come by (legally) for anybody not 'western'.

A quick google search revealed these links, both on the first page. Scroll down to "Thailand" and scroll down to "Economic."

http://85.92.87.111/...parability.html

http://en.wikipedia....i/Western_world

Thanks, so recognised.

70,000 baht per month is good money for a Thai. What would they be paid, doing the same job, in the west???? Oh, that's right, they can't do the same job in the west because they have a Thai education and a degree from a Thai uni that isn't recognised in the west.

Please specify 'west' and where a Thai uni degree is not recognised? And also a source please for that 'not recognised in the west'.

A few far more plausible reasons for them not working in the west are that they don't want to work there, and that the labour markets in 'the west' are very, very restricted. Nearly impossible for a Thai to get into any of the countries in 'the west', let alone work there with the exception of the jobs the 'western' labour force does not want to do anymore. And even those jobs are very difficult to come by (legally) for anybody not 'western'.

love this guy. he knows this country is a ****hole but he still fights with his life on the line (no way he doesnt get shot soon) for the animals who did not chose to be living with thais.

How do you donate to his sanctuary? when people ask me for a good place to donate money, that should be perfect as none of the $ goes toward people

I don't think he believes the country is a shithole. There are things wrong with it, but your continuous exaggeration does not do you any good.

I hope this does not bite Edwin in the ass.

what is 2000 baht of fine, in the country without meters and a 20 km trip costs 1500 baht

You must be an extremely bad negotioator.

The dealer will sell it to a 2nd hand shop. Go there yourself and you'll probably get 30.000 more.

Now, just to look even further down the track, you kid falls in love and gets married and starts their own family. If you decide on staying in Phuket, whilst your kid/s are living and working back in your home country, you will miss out on seeing your grandchildren, for any extended period of time. Once again, each to their own. If that is not an issue for you, great.

I'm not dwelling on so far into the future, but it is worth a quick thought.

It really is a tough decision that many will have to make in the future.

To me NKM that's utter madness. To overly worry when you are in your thirties about where you are going to be in relationship to your grand children when you're in your sixties!!

You have to have an idea about where you are going and you have to have options, but nobody knows what will happen that far in to the future and it's completely futile trying to plan for it.

What if you spend your whole life going down that route and then your kid decides not to have any kids of his own and wants to be a monk in Tibet for the rest of his life. You've spent your whole life planning something that didn't work out how you thought it would. What a waste.

No worries, probably the children will move to Phuket by that time, so you still can enjoy your grandkids.

2000B fine? Man what a terrible blow. Yeah that will teach them for sure. How about 100.000B? Every time. And how about setting fixed prices between the airport and specific destinations like Patong, Kata, downtown Phuket etc?

I don't think black plate taxi's at the airport are a big problem, I don't think there are many.

But any kind of sign won't help, unless aimed at Thais to scare them (but probably won't help anyway). The tourists that arrive are being 'sold' a taxi when they exit the terminal, and they have no idea about the car it is going to be.

I have been following this thread with interest as I am also exploring the possibility of living in Thailand, although not Phuket. As HKP has stated such a move has to put the kids future first and foremost.

I have done a fair bit of research into schools and areas to live and I feel that given the right school my children could get a very good education right up until the IB qualifications, which would potentially allow them to go on to University. My biggest concern is what would they do having finished school at 18 or so.

As I understand it ( and I stand to be corrected ) in order to qualify as a UK student at a UK university you have to be ordinarily resident in the UK for three years prior to beginning the course. Otherwise you would have to pay much higher overseas student fees. That is of course if the children have the ability or desire to go on to university. So in reality if this was the course they wanted then you would really have to return to the UK to live when they are around 15yrs old, probably not worth the disruption of uprooting them from school and resettling all over again.

Are there any other options ? I can't think of any but would be interested to hear what others think.

This is what I referred to in my first post in this thread - you MUST look beyond the teenage years.

I repeat that there's nothing here for a person with a decent education. Even if you put them through an International School here, then what? Nothing!

Look at it this way - we're here because we've got a good education and career and income from our home countries. What you don't see is kids being brought up here through school, working here, then retiring to Gold Coast or Florida in their 40's / 50's. What you do see is people in that age bracket who've studied and worked hard for rewards in the 'west', then coming here.

What's the difference to living in the country back home? Many teenagers moving away to exploit (perceived) opportunities elsewhere, sometimes returning, sometimes not. But at the same time others are staying.

As a vehicle-less Patong resident, I can agree with much of what GK says here. Others like to say that Phuket is not Patong, and I would also note that Patong is not just Bangla either. There are some good accommodations, goods & services, and cheap places to eat & drink in Patong away from the tourist rip-off areas. I haven't been to Bangla area in years and don't miss anything about it, but I still enjoy living in Patong.

It wasn't me who said that, I've never stopped in Patong for more than 3 weeks. I don't mind as long as it wasn't 'thailand' that said it.

No worries, it was iSabai who said that.

Yes, kids will inherit.

But: does he have any possessions in the UK? If not, screw the children and simply let the girlfriend take anything. Try to empty bank accounts before the bank knows of his passing.

Yes, I was thinking the same, especially the Peugeot.

Wow, thanks for the reply's, I am reluctant topull it apart anymore as it's not my car, and I don't want their to be issues. Told him to take it to the dealer.

Just curious though, is there a filter in these blowers? Or is the best filter to just use recycle? I am just thinking of all the smoke up north?

AFAIK no filter there. And even if there were, recycle would be best.

You will have to rapport it to the police. Armed with the policerapport, you go to your DLT-office and within a week,, you should be able to pick up a new plate. Some small fee, but no big drama.

Correct, except that in stead of a week it took the DLT here over 2 months.