jerrymahoney

Well I just gave you the reference to Professor Richman in case you have any more minor corrections to make. Verbatim from NY Times with no editorial from me. And for the article as a whole, corrections can to mailed to corrections<at>nytimes.com

My thoughts courtesy the late Shel Silverstein: "Nothing to do?" Nothing to do? Nothing to do? Put some mustard in your shoe, Fill your pockets full of soot, Drive a nail into your foot, Put some sugar in your hair, Place your toys upon the stair, Smear some jelly on the latch, Eat some mud and strike a match, Draw a picture on the wall, Roll some marbles down the hall, Pour some ink in Daddy's cap--- Now go upstairs and take a nap.

Jan. 6 Rioters Have Been Held to Account. That Might Be the Easy Part. With leaders of the far-right groups that helped drive the attack on the Capitol sentenced to long prison terms, attention is shifting to the fraught process of prosecuting Donald Trump. Sept. 6, 2023 To be sure, none of the charges Mr. Trump is facing accuse him of encouraging or inspiring the violence at the Capitol. At worst, the Washington indictment claims that as chaos broke out at the building on Jan. 6, Mr. Trump “exploited the disruption” to further his goal of stopping the election certification. The Justice Department spent considerable effort searching for links between the White House and the rioters and, at least so far, has never publicly established any direct ties between the boots and the suits. What remains to be seen is whether prosecutors find a way to bridge their inquiry into the Capitol attack to their investigation into Mr. Trump’s attempts to overturn his electoral defeat. “We have the fraud charges and we have the seditious conspiracy charges,” said Daniel C. Richman *, a former federal prosecutor and a law professor at Columbia University. “But what we don’t yet have is any link between the two beyond vague inferences and thoughts.” https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-trump-jan-6.html https://archive.ph/FXeXh * From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Richman Following the June 8, 2017 public hearing at the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Richman confirmed to reporters that he was the person former FBI Director James Comey had instructed to reveal the contents of Comey's memos detailing conversation with President Donald Trump. Richman and Comey are longtime friends, and Richman's faculty page describes him as an advisor to Comey.

Ross Perot Often Credited for Costing Bush ’92 Election AUSTIN, Texas -- It's been written and said more times than anyone can count that H. Ross Perot cost George H.W. Bush the 1992 Presidential Election. "It would be a mistake to say the 19 percent he drew were all Republican voters who would have voted for Bush had Perot not been in the race," said Crocket. "His presence in the campaign getting 19 percent of the vote in '92 demonstrated disaffection by a lot of people with both major parties. But he probably fairly drew evenly from both candidates,” said Crocket. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2019/07/09/ross-perot-often-credited-for-costing-bush--92-election

Yes. The 1992 George H.W. Bush re-election campaign mantra of calling Bill Clinton "The failed governor of a small state" didn't work.

Clinton blasts Bush as "failed president' Published Aug. 2, 1992 Bill Clinton on Saturday called President Bush the "failed president of a big country" as he sought to blunt expected Republican attacks on him as a "failed governor from a small state." Republicans have been hitting the "failed governor" theme for months and the Democrats are expecting the Bush campaign to use it, perhaps this week as it launches its television advertising. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1992/08/02/clinton-blasts-bush-as-failed-president/

My post was merely to denote the notoriety of Lin Wood as Vernon Unsworth's defamation attorney. Wood was also the attorney for Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympic bombing case which made him famous. And again that article was posted verbatim with zero changes from me.

OOPS my error. I forgot to put in the link to the CNN article which I posted verbatim except for the TRIVIA comment: https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-georgia-indictment-09-08-23/h_159be1a32b9c0cc1c6a162627ff2a34f#:~:text=Special grand jury recommended charging right-wing lawyer Lin Wood&text=The special grand jury in,and he has denied wrongdoing.

Takeaway #6 Special grand jury recommended charging right-wing lawyer Lin Wood. The special grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia, recommended charges against right-wing lawyer Lin Wood, who promoted conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. He did not end up facing charges, and he has denied wrongdoing. Wood, a veteran Atlanta-area defense attorney who later embraced pro-Trump conspiracy theories, was involved in a handful of meritless lawsuits in 2020 that unsuccessfully tried to overturn the election in Georgia and elsewhere. State election officials described his election claims as “disinformation.” Back in July, Wood gave up his law license in an apparent move to stave off disciplinary proceedings tied to his attempts to overturn the election. TRIVIA ITEM: Lin Wood was Vernon Unsworth's lead attorney in the defamation case against Elon Musk over the Chiang Rai cave rescue..

Note to the above from the NY Times version of the ruling: The ruling, which is likely to be appealed, came after Mr. Meadows’s lawyers took the unexpected step of putting their client on the witness stand to make the case for removal in a hearing on Aug. 28 in Judge Jones’s courtroom in downtown Atlanta. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/us/mark-meadows-georgia-federal-court-denial.html

Judge denies Mark Meadows effort to move Georgia case to federal court The ruling is a blow to Meadows’s efforts in federal court to dismiss his case and could influence former president Donald Trump as he decides whether to seek removal himself. September 8, 2023 at 5:54 p.m. EDT A federal judge denied a request Friday from former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to move the Georgia election-interference case against him from state to federal court, a shift he had sought on the grounds that he was a federal officer at the time of the actions that led to his indictment. Now, Meadows’s case will proceed in Fulton County Superior Court with no opportunity to make that argument — though he has the option to appeal the decision to the 11th Circuit, a notably conservative court that could view the issue differently from Jones, whom Barack Obama appointed to the bench. Ultimately, Meadows could ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review the issue. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/08/mark-meadows-court-decision-georgia/ https://archive.ph/cDOwq

He was a great supporter of opera.

Yes and that was sufficient.

And what relevance has hypocrisy to the topic of a televised trial?

Justice Antonin Scalia’s politics and jurisprudence weren’t to everyone’s liking, but there was general agreement that he was the Supreme Court’s finest writer during his tenure. Ask practicing lawyers, editors of the New Republic (not exactly Scalia’s target demographic), or even his liberal colleague, Justice Elena Kagan — who declared Scalia to be “indubitably [the Court’s] greatest writer.” https://abovethelaw.com/2016/11/how-justice-scalias-writing-style-affected-american-jurisprudence/

That quote was from a Supreme Court concurring opinion written by Scalia in which he sided with liberal justices Ginsburg and Breyer. So, at least in this case, if Scalia was a hypocrite, so were Ginsburg and Breyer.

It can get screwy -- in addition to remember which is a criminal trial and which is a civil trial.

Re the Carroll II trial (the 'second case' Carroll I is actually the first case): Mr. Trump has also asked the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit to delay the pending defamation trial, which is scheduled for Jan. 15, until an appeal by Mr. Trump related to the case is resolved. Ms. Carroll opposes any delay, and the appeals court has scheduled oral arguments on the issue for Tuesday. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/nyregion/trump-e-jean-carroll-defamation-trial-january.html https://archive.ph/xQ5wf Note: This will be the first hearing at the Federal Appeals Court level. All the other action for Carroll I and II was at the Federal District Court level.

Georgia prosecutors in Trump election case estimate four-month trial September 6, 2023 at 5:36 p.m. EDT McAfee did not reject a joint trial of Trump and his 18 co-defendants, but he peppered prosecutors with questions and appeared deeply skeptical that proceedings for all 19 could begin next month. He noted efforts by some of the defendants to move their cases to federal court and existing motions from Trump and others who have said they will not be ready for trial by late October. ... McAfee said he plans to decide by next Thursday whether all the defendants must be tried at the same time beginning next month. “I remain very skeptical,” McAfee told prosecutors. “But I’m willing to hear what you have to say on it.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/09/06/trump-georgia-trial-four-months/ https://archive.ph/Xeyry

Lawsuit contends Constitution’s ‘insurrection’ clause bars Trump from running again for president Updated 3:23 AM GMT+7, September 7, 2023 DENVER (AP) — A liberal group on Wednesday filed a lawsuit to bar former President Donald Trump from the primary ballot in Colorado, arguing he is ineligible to run for the White House again under a rarely used clause in the U.S. Constitution aimed at candidates who have supported an “insurrection.” The lawsuit, citing the 14th Amendment, is likely the initial step in a legal challenge that seems destined for the U.S. Supreme Court. The complaint was filed on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters by the group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. While a few fringe figures have filed thinly written lawsuits in a few states citing the clause, the litigation Wednesday was the first by an organization with significant legal resources. It may lead to similar challenges in other states, holding out the potential for conflicting rulings that would require the Supreme Court to settle. https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-constitution-2024-election-primary-ballot-19ca3f17881e8818302cb1260e7c2aed

The electors’ comparison to the 1960 Hawaii example is specious for several reasons. There, the Kennedy electors cast their votes on December 19, 1960, amid an ongoing court-ordered recount of Nixon’s slim preliminary victory. The ceremony was public, and the Democratic certificate was ultimately approved by the governor as required by law. Under the circumstances of the Hawaii case, the court-ordered recount created reasonable uncertainty surrounding the vote total, giving the Kennedy electors a justifiable basis for their production of a Kennedy certificate. The 2020 Georgia Trump electors, on the other hand, met and signed their fraudulent certificate on December 14, seven days after the results were recertified (for the second time) on December 7. The governor—a Republican—never approved. Furthermore, Nixon’s initial Hawaii victory (pre-recount) was by a margin of only 141 votes, well within the realm of possibility for a recount to change; Biden’s total, on the other hand, was more than 12,000 votes (and still 11,779 after the second recount) greater than Trump’s, a much larger advantage unlikely to be overturned by a recount. Footnote 496 page PF page 105 https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/11122022_GA_Investigation_Report_SecondEdition.pdf

Ex-Leader of Proud Boys Sentenced to 22 Years in Jan. 6 Sedition Case The prison term for Enrique Tarrio was the most severe penalty handed down so far to any of the more than 1,100 people charged in connection with the Capitol attack. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys-sentenced.html https://archive.ph/PPZ1k#selection-333.0-337.165

No. But I could go on & on.

He was very witty.

I like long shots. Easy to root for Dallas Cowboys or Manchester United at least in their hey-day.. And you can lose a lot and one good score can put you way ahead. I like looking at the cases. Not who wins or loses. As the late Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote: "I do not think, however, that the avoidance of unhappy consequences is adequate basis for interpreting a text."