jerrymahoney

This topic is more than I've thought about wai-ing one way or another in my 20+ years living full time in Thailand

I hope so but he isn't yet.

The only tick tick tick that concerns me is the one that goes to 05 NOV 2024. And the title of the Aseannow.com topic comes directly from the BBC source article: Trump appeals fraud case as $112,000-a-day interest accrues here is where you can report BBC errors: https://www.bbc.com/news/55077304

which part of NOTICE OF APPEAL and 'hereby appeal' in the text is giving you concern? (link posted above)

So it seems you are maybe of an age that, when you married your Thai wife, her parents were in much the same age range as would be your parents. When I married my wife and met her parents for the first time at New Years', I was about 10 years older than her parents. Makes a difference.

He has 30 days from the Notice of appeal -- 26 FEB 2024 -- to put up cash or a bond or obtain a stay from the Appeals Court. < Trump wasn’t able to appeal the decision immediately because the clerk’s office at Engoron’s courthouse had to file paperwork known as a judgment to make it official. That was done on Friday, starting a 30-day window for Trump to pay up or file an appeal and seek a stay. https://time.com/6835214/donald-trump-appeal-new-york-civil-fraud/

Index No: 452564/2022 Engoron, J.S.C. NOTICE OF APPEAL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT) (DJT et al) .... hereby appeal to the Appellate Division, First Department, Hon. Arthur F. Engoron, J.S.C., dated February 16, 2024 (NYSCEF Doc. No. 1688) https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/452564_2022_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_v_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_NOTICE_OF_APPEAL_1701.pdf

From the NY Times / archive link above: Can Mr. Trump transfer shares during the lockup period? Yes. The provision permits a major shareholder like Mr. Trump to transfer shares to a trust. A trust backed by some of Mr. Trump’s shares might be able to use that stock as collateral for a loan. He also can transfer shares to an immediate family member.

And 'today' as in your post is Apr 3, 2023, 07:25am EDT

Maybe enough have already bought the bridge. From the above linked archive article: The most obvious obstacle would be if Digital World shareholders voted it down. But that is unlikely, given that most of the roughly 400,000 shareholders of the company are retail investors who had questioned the pace of the S.E.C.’s inquiry into the deal in online postings on Truth Social and other social media platforms. (my bold)

That article is dated April 16, 2023 The NY Times article is dated today Bangkok time

Trump Media’s Impending Merger May Give Him a Financial Lifeline The deadline for the former president to pay a $454 million civil fraud penalty coincides with the expected closing of a deal involving his social media platform, Truth Social. Feb. 26, 2024, 12:54 p.m. ET via NY Times Former President Donald J. Trump’s stake in Trump Media & Technology Group, his social media company, could be worth as much as $4 billion once a long-delayed merger closes. https://archive.is/bVF9V#selection-546.0-657.173

OK. No problem. Just to say that when one marries for the time EVER at age 70, the dynamics can be a bit different than otherwise. There's an old Irving Berlin show-tune (1946) called "Doin' What Comes Naturally". If a wai to me came naturally, I would do it . But it doesn't

You really have to bring out that old chestnut? As far as I'm concerned I am getting the better part of the bargain. Thanks for your concern. And the NGO certainly remembers me as I helped some of their top disabled students get graduate scholarships domestic and international.

This is from the ThaiVietJet FAQ: 3.8 Can I carry a power bank on board? Power banks can only be carried on board as carry-on baggage with the following conditions: - Power bank capacity over 32000 mAh are prohibited to carry on board - Power bank capacity between 20000 – 32000 mAh can be carry on board but not over 2 units per passengers - Power bank capacity below 20000 mAh can be carry on board At the x-ray checkpoint last week there was a clear plastic bin with a bunch of power banks. I guess some folks were told: Too big -- either toss it now or don't fly.

I think Thais will react to an 'improper' wai the same way a Westerner would react to watching someone picking their nose in public.

People such as yourself? My first extended times in Thailand were at an NGO under patronage of HM the (then) King and I don't remember EVER giving a wai even to high ranking officials who routinely came by. As for first meeting my wife's parents around New Year's day after being married in another province, I gave them money for the big tambon and party which I think they appreciated more than a wai.

BS. A nod from a farang is quite sufficient in returning a wai.

Imagine a President Trump Who Owes Saudi Arabia $540 Million Fri, February 23, 2024 at 10:41 PM GMT+7·5 (via The New Republic) In sum: He could borrow this money from just about anybody. Or not even borrow it. Someone might just give it to him. Incredibly, as Neal Katyal said on MSNBC Wednesday night, there is apparently no law that prohibits someone in Trump’s position from securing the collateral from anyone. It’s another one of those laws that I suppose no one ever even thought to write because the system has never encountered a Donald Trump before. But now it has. “There are potential sanctions prohibitions and campaign finance prohibitions. And of course potential tax issues,” MSNBC analyst Andrew Weissmann told me via email Thursday. “But apart from those, a third party can give a gift or loan to post the federal or state bonds.” https://news.yahoo.com/imagine-president-trump-owes-saudi-154123600.html

My standard answer to query: If you didn't learn to wai when you were 2 years old, don't do it.

SOP. For the 'victims', who are those in Ms. James statements, to bring a case or class action against any big (in this case non-profit) organization is a very expensive proposition: Either big open-end legal fees or an attorney willing to take the case on contingency. So the state does it.

"For years, Wayne LaPierre used charitable dollars to fund his lavish lifestyle, spending millions on luxury travel, expensive clothes, insider contracts, and other perks for himself and his family," James said in a statement. "But today, after years of rampant corruption and self-dealing, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA are finally being held accountable." The executives were accused of misappropriating and mismanaging funds donated to the gun rights group's members. According to James, their actions led to "the loss of more than $64 million in just three years." (my italics) https://www.npr.org/2024/02/23/1232229060/nra-wayne-lapierre-corruption-trial-verdict-new-york And as the NRA is a non-profit corporation the case was not brought under New York Executive Law § 63(12), sometimes called simply "63 12" or "63(12)", is a New York law that gives the Attorney General of New York broad powers to investigate and prosecute cases of alleged civil fraud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Executive_Law_§_63(12) but primarily under Not-for-Profit Corporation (NPC) CHAPTER 35, ARTICLE 7 SECTION 720 Actions against directors, officers and key persons (a) An action may be brought against one or more directors, officers, or key persons of a corporation to procure a judgment for the following relief: (1) To compel the defendant to account for his official conduct in the following cases: (A) The neglect of, or failure to perform, or other violation of his duties in the management and disposition of corporate assets committed to his charge. (B) ) The acquisition by himself, transfer to others, loss or waste of corporate assets due to any neglect of, or failure to perform, or other violation of his duties. https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/NPC/720

The writer quoted Mark C. Zauderer (is) a New York trial and appellate lawyer, and a senior partner in the New York law firm of Dorf Nelson & Zauderer LLP. He frequently comments on legal issues in the print and television media and lectures on litigation-related issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_C._Zauderer

This is from the post this morning from USA today yesterday: But without a traditional victim in the fraud case, the appeals court has broad discretion to set a bond at perhaps a fraction of the total judgment. And with that the cross-examination began 2 hours ago. And here it ends.

Other than this: An Associated Press analysis of nearly 70 years of civil cases under the (63(12)) law showed that such a penalty has only been imposed a dozen previous times, and Trump’s case stands apart in a significant way: It’s the only big business found that was threatened with a shutdown without a showing of obvious victims and major losses. https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-business-law-courts-banks-lending-punishment-2ee9e509a28c24d0cda92da2f9a9b689