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11 minutes ago, robblok said:

I like this antivaxxer, at least unlike some others he accepts the drawbacks of not being vaccinated. 

 

He does not moan like a lil girl for being treated differently then those that are vaccinated. Wish most antivaxxers were like that and accept extra rules for them. 

 

I think this will happen all over the world rules for vaxed and non vaxxed. I hope that this convinces enough people to get vaccinated. But one has to admire people who throw away a few 1000$ for their beliefs, instead of those moaning all the time about it.

I have every sympathy for anyone who cant get vaccinated for medical reasons and dispensation should certainly be considered on submission of proof but the OP seems to be in the wont category not the cant category so no vax no entry i'm afraid   

2 hours ago, banglay said:

I think over the coming weeks/months/years as Thailand opens up it's borders  anyone who has not been vaxx'ed will be treated as a second class person  and even feared ... and this will only get  worse as the infection rate starts  increasing (which is happening again  worldwide even in countries that have a high vax rate %%) ..Remember Khun Thai can be very paranoid and vent there anger quickly and as a un vaxx'ed farang you would be a target for sure  and treated as a modern day Leper 

Not sure the Thai authorities will fanny about with worrying about whether your civil rights are being impinged or not they'll just say No vax No entry and who can blame them ? 

5 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

That is dangerously close to dictatorship, I understand what you indicate, however I have a problem with  mandating health interventions on a national scale. Eugenics comes to mind

Wasn't that Annie Lennox and another bloke ?

1 hour ago, swissie said:

replaced by what?

A Yorkshire pudding tin I heard ????

On 7/28/2021 at 2:04 PM, BritManToo said:

Yeah, you don't want anyone getting news from a source that isn't controlled by the government!

Yeah right dont listen to the experts just some Tiktok Doylem

33 minutes ago, LoeiI said:

So the vaccinated are killing off the unvaccinated  ? Brilliant even Better lol  ????

If I had the slightest clue what i was doing I'd set up a website cough on an antivaxxer. com 

20 minutes ago, sirineou said:

You mean that most transmissions  do not occur among the unvaccinated, and that every time a virus is transmitted there is  a chance of a mutation? 

So the vaccinated are killing off the unvaccinated  ? Brilliant even Better lol  ????

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

BS.  I saw Fauci on the TV almost every day.  He's a true hero.  Sad some don't understand this.  A man who's committed his life to public service, and, an expert in this area.

Similar to the UK with Vallance and Whitty telling it how it is, it was just that scruffy lazy incompetent lying <deleted> stood between them that spoilt it

40 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I am not sure if we are seeing the power of senior officials in the same way. The power of senior officials is cultural. They can ignore the law in the same way they can take bribes. This is not because they have the official power to do so. If that is the way you view things, we are of one mind on this.

Not really sure how I view things to be honest been coming here 15+ years but only just started living here, by the sounds of your profile name you probably grew up in the same country as me where most things are pretty black and white either legal or illegal and without much leeway for interpretation, the more i see and hear things that go on here that the Thais consider normal the more i wonder whether such things are actually illegal or tolerated or as you say culturally normal, when you see millionaires actually getting away with murder in plain sight and cops on 20k a year with umpteen million quids worth of cars and houses and the Mrs just says not my problem darling what do you want for tea, maybe i shouldn't be bothered (but i am !)   

16 minutes ago, BritTim said:

As a practical matter, you are not entirely wrong. However, the law as written in the Immigration Act is used a a guide unless the officials strongly disagree with the provisions.

Don't want to be pedantic but if the senior I/O disagrees strongly he is in fact the Law and can interprate the immigration act as he sees fit ? 

15 hours ago, BritTim said:

But, many immigration officials, including some in very senior positions, disagree with the current laws. Why should they be obliged to follow those laws when they dislike them?

I was under the impression that Senior I/Os were the law ??

1 hour ago, nong38 said:

Strange thing is that Thais returning are exempt from the insurance and can just go home.

I expect that TAT and the hotels assume that on November the first and every day after that the skies will darken with aircraft flying tourists in, when it does not darken and reality sets in its just a slim possibility that someone might notice that the tourists did not turn up and everyone is in deep poo as more businesses hit the fan, they sure now how to cook the golden goose. 

The good old days are not coming back, just too many hoops to jump through and more welcoming places in the world beckon. People with vision should have seen it coming.

My daughter came over in 2019 with hubby n grandkids absolutely loved it met up in Phuket had a brilliant time she wouldn't even consider it now too much uncertainty with the regs and  all the hoop jumping and paperwork think the authorities are dreaming 

1 hour ago, Qal S said:

Thank you very much for this useful information.

I was looking on line at house building companies but decided to go with an architect who the village boss knows well (I know the village boss well and he knows the architects family) we went to meet him and he took us to some properties he has already started. I know nowt about house building so the specifics go straight over my head but have been impressed with the plans / specs / price he provided and if anything starts to go wrong i know where to go 

2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

nothing - if he is alive and wants to change his will at any time for any reason, he can do that as he probably can in any country... including your beloved land of fish and chips and football hooligans... New wills are made and changed all the time. 

Fish Chips n Football Hooligans ya cheeky <deleted> (you forgot the mushy peas)

On 10/21/2021 at 12:42 PM, ukrules said:

Thailand in its perpetual state of delusion believes it's the number one place in the world and when the doors are opened everyone in the world will want to come.

To them the problem is that they must restrict the number who do come because far too many will want to arrive all at once.

 

They all believe this 100% - it's been indoctrinated and beaten into them since they were dumb little brats, now they're older and in positions of authority.

 

I can't wait for the reality to hit.

European booking a holiday next year : There's slightly less restrictions in Cambodia, forget about Thailand, just go there instead.

 

'There' could be any one of 100's of different countries in the world, like the Caribbean for example.

Its probably been asked already but Just wondering how many actual tourists have arrived this year I flew in June there were 11 people on the flight and all the faff with 3kg of paperwork I cant imagine many families are choosing LOS for their hols it seems mainly like ex pats with Thai wives / families returning and putting up with all the Knob ache be interesting to see if it actually gets better with less restrictions  

4 hours ago, topt said:

The question has been asked about them a couple of times on here in the past - 2/3 years or so from memory. I remember trying to look them up and felt similarly to you.  

It would be interesting to hear if anybody here has any experience with them.

There is a good chance I will switch to them next month as I have been told the David Shield premium will increase by 30% - and that is in the middle of a banding......as another poster mentioned earlier in the thread. 

The premiums in later years also become less competitive. The fact that it is known now has probably done me a favor in making me change now when it is still relatively easy.

 

So good to know you are positive so far about April International 

Does anyone have experience with April International regarding the usual "Old Fella" pre existing conditions controlled BP / Type 2 diabetes etc. and what the loading might be if it is actually accepted ? 

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

AA will probably provide you details of Thai April, they did with me, you need to ask for the April France. Ask AA the question they should know rather than us guessing

Spot on thanks i just received the April international details after asking the question 

5 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Legal, in Thailand is a far less definitive than in the west. Also what was legal yesterday may be illegal tomorrow. 
Corrupt is also a slippery concept and really depends on attitudes that change.

 

In a western society it’s reasonably easy to say that something is corrupt, in Asia, not so much.

I'm tending to agree in most western democracies a government official receiving a payment to facilitate circumventing the rules on immigration would mean front page coverage and undoubted jail time, over here it seems that the ordinary Thai people accept what westerners would call corruption as part of life and that the rules are written in such a way as to allow a degree of "Interpretation", it is after all a country where a bloke in the army took power from an elected prime minister without a vote being cast (albeit at the barrel of a gun or two). Gunna listen to the Mrs now and sabi sabi   

7 minutes ago, Lite Beer said:

Not legal.

Sorry but if the Chief I/O has the authority to basically interpret the rules as he sees fit even to the point of disregarding the applicants financials as has been posted by many people previously how is it "Illegal" ? I can understand that you may consider it rule bending / bypassing and morally wrong but surly not illegal    

On 10/16/2021 at 9:17 PM, dinga said:

Of course - everyone's circumstance is different.  Coverage for pre-existing conditions (or not) are a major consideration.  In my case - after some dramas with very large proposed DS/Passport Card premium increases - April International offered not just very competitive premiums (both current and projected) as well as optional coverage for existing conditions at a 25% loading.  

 

In summary - see if options are available that meet your personal circumstances (there is no "one size fits all")  

 

  

I'm just looking at a quote from April international through AA, just a couple of questions, are April an International company (as the name suggests) or a Thai company and if you develop a condition during the term of the policy would this become a pre existing condition for the remainder of the policy term or upon renewal or both or neither ? I'm quite confused 

Thanks for any replies

3 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

They often have to get such an extension from a province you do not live in, so that makes it not legit, even if they do it's still corruption

So not legit and corrupt but Legal ?

14 hours ago, Pmbkk said:

 

You could just slit your wrists and reduce all them....

Can you state your age and do a catch-up every year....

 

BTW - don;t cross the road, use any electrics  - or come into contact with anyone with Covid...

 

 

As the great Chubby said I'm fat cos I've got a problem with my feet I cant keep em out of the pantry

11 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

I lived in a kleenex box in Streatham!

I had to get up in the morning at 10 o clock at night half an hour before i went to bed.............