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On 1/9/2023 at 11:17 PM, candide said:

Biden influencing the Trump administration. Good luck with that one! ????

Hint:  The government is divided into three branches.  The executive, legislative and judicial.  Trump controlled only one.  Biden by contrast served in Congress for 36 years and as VP for 8.  Do you really believe the only influence peddling occurs at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.  The money comes from Congress. 

On 1/10/2023 at 3:32 AM, heybruce said:

Provide links to news stories that reported any of these things as other than unsubstantiated claims.

So the Steele Dossier turned out to be paid for the DNC, and Hillary Clinton, The New York Times admitted it was wrong on its coverage suggesting a collusion with the Russians.  Mueller and Comey found Zero Evidence of a "golden shower" and the FISA warrant allowed the FBI to have wiretaps on Carter Page.  That meant they had two jumps.  They could through the warrant also wiretap anyone that Carter Page contacted and whoever those people in turn had contact with.  THAT IS VIRTUALLY EVERYONE CONNECTED WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-times-columnist-admits-wrong-about-trumps-supporters-says-russian-collusion-hoax

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/us/politics/fbi-fisa-court.html

On 1/10/2023 at 12:01 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, and if I had a light saber I'd probably be a Jedi Knight..

So many and apparently you seem to believe to have special insight into what is on the computer and what can or can not be verified.  

The fact is, that none of us know what exactly is on that laptop.  Only what the media has said and they of course are limited in their knowledge.  Now, even if it is conclusively proven there is damning evidence on that computer, that does still not mean for purposes of a criminal prosecution what if anything will be included. 

So this conjecture that the problem is only Hunters, and his problems are limited to only tax evasion is made with all the credence of a pronouncement from a ouija board.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you arrived the US and your laptop went missing at the airport but turn d up months later with evidence of having been accessed by multiple people since you last saw it.

What I would say is that computer experts would be able to determine when the data on that computer was added, and if there was any alteration of the data on that computer. 

Need I remind you that Hillary Clinton used a computer expert to delete 33,000 emails and used a military grade software package called bleach bit to erase the data multiple time, and yet computer experts were able to retrieve it.  

There is a huge difference between what a computer expert can determine and what a judge might allow as evidence in court.  

1 minute ago, candide said:

"The second involved a business venture that Hunter tried to set up with a Chinese energy tycoon in 2017 (after Joe Biden was no longer vice president).

Yes, and even if Joe was no longer VP does his influence within the government stop the day he left office. 

Hint: Many from congress go to be lobbyists for companies.  Why? Because though they are no longer in office they have access and influence.  

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not making wild assertions, you are.

You should really look into some memory excercises. 

You were the one who stated that only Hunter was in legal troubles and his troubles would be limited to tax evasion. 

I am pointing out, you have no idea what is on that computer or what the legal ramifications might be nor who it might implicate. 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

There's already evidence of tampering:

I can't read the article since it is for subscribers only.  Again to beat a dead horse WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS

So for those who are either dismissing it as evidence and claiming they can predict what charges may or may not result of themselves are making conjecture that just can't be substantiated. 

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

(The Laptop) can be thrown out as far as any evidentiary/exculpatory evidence located on it no matter what any forensic evidence says

No that is "if or buts" also.  The plain fact is WE DON'T KNOW 

We don't know what is on the computer
We don't know what can or can not be determined as authentic on the computer. 
We don't know that even if the evidence on the computer is completed damning that a judge would not throw it out because of some of the issues you mentioned. 

I was replying to many who were making blanket statements as if somehow they had all the answers. 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And you are right, you don’t have complete knowledge of what is on Hunter Biden’s computer.

Hunter Biden himself cannot swear under oath that he has complete knowledge of what is on this computer given it has been out of his possession for so long and I’m the hands of multiple people before being placed into the custody of the FBI.

So perhaps instead of making wild assertions as to what might or might not be on the computer and what charges might stem from it until after it has been fully vetted by those with the ability to determine if it is both genuine and there is no evidence of tampering before making the statement that only Hunter would be involved and it would only involve tax evasion.  

I have heard over the years so many times over both accusations about Democrats and Republicans that they had a smoking gun, for it turn out to be nothing. 

1 minute ago, candide said:

You obviously did not pay attention to the content of the emails found. It was not about spitting money to be received, it was about becoming a shareholder of the JV. When you create a JV as shareholder, you INVEST money, not receive money. On top of it, the JV has been effectively created and officially registered. Joe Biden was not a shareholder of this JV.

So all your "if" are pointless.

I didn't realize that you had such inside information on the entirety of what is on the computer.  

I suggest we know only a smattering of what is or is not on that computer. 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Good luck with that.

Let me say, I believe that the "computer experts" in government know a great deal more about the ability to determine computer tampering than you do. 

5 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, and if my uncle had had a penis he'd be my aunt.

Edited 4 minutes ago by Phoenix Rising

I was replying to the comment that only Hunter would be in legal trouble and his trouble is limited to only tax evasion.  First off we don't have complete knowledge of what is on that computer.  Secondly, if any of the money went to Joe Biden his troubles exceed just not paying taxes because he would be receiving those monies because of his political position.  There are a myriad of charges that could arise from that. 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s a marked difference between DNA evidence that is categorically link d to the identity of individuals and computer data files which may be added by anyone holding possession of the computer.

Since you are a legal expert on chain of custody, perhaps you should study up on computer forensics

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you go read up on Chain of Custody and what particular problems it is intended to address.

Oh, so according to you, if the FBI came into Trumps Mar Largo estate and took information from boxes that it could not be used against him because they could not prove chain of custody from the time the documents left the government

On 12/25/2022 at 10:44 AM, ozimoron said:

At best it might lead to an IRS charge for dodging taxes but that's not really the hill the GOP should choose to die on.

Its so good you know so much about what is on that laptop to make that assertion.  Now let me point out that if Hunter Biden received money that was not declared that would be tax evasion.  If Joe Biden is the "big guy" and he also is found to have taken the money, he is guilty of both tax evasion, extortion, money laundering, and taking a bribe.  

On 12/6/2022 at 11:06 AM, heybruce said:

The media almost always waits for verification,

Oh like they waited for the Russian Collusion, The Steele Dossier, The golden showers and the wiretapping of Trump campaign headquarters

On 11/22/2022 at 7:59 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

And in the months this laptop was allegedly abandoned?

Which part of the experts at least so far have said that the information on the laptop was not planted or altered.  Perhaps you are no computer expert but the fact is there are forensic experts that can tell if any data on a computer was altered or manipulated.  

Using your logic a murder weapon with DNA on it could not be turned in as evidence because you could not prove the chain of custody from the time it was used in the murder to when it was turned in.  

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

This is about Biden's laptop.

Yes you said that other presidents had taken kickbacks.  I challenge you to prove your statement.  

On 11/22/2022 at 7:38 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t matter what is on the lap top, there is no secure chain of custody.

And just where did you get your JD degree from.

Chain of custody applies to evidence doctored after the receipt by authorities not before. 

On 11/22/2022 at 5:25 AM, ozimoron said:

Other president(s) have taken massive kick backs for pay for play and not been charged.

Ozimoron, you certainly know so much that is either untrue or unproven.  Its amazing the "facts" you know that are unknown to anyone else but you.  

Who has taken massive kickbacks and provide proof. 

55 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

2015 WTH are you going to use this as todays news?

ok this is 2021 and the disparity has only gotten more towards the top 1%

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

These very old figures hide the real problem. The rich pay a far lower burden of tax than the rest. For even more shocking figures, read down the article to see what corporations pay.

These are 2020 figures  DUH 

Also CORPORATIONS DONT' PAY ANY TAX.

A tax on a business is no different than rent, utilities, insurance, wages, advertising etc.  IT GETS BAKED INTO THE PRICE OF THE GOODS AND SERVICES that business provides.  

Maakro here pays VAT to the government.  You didn't.  But wait, that VAT is added to your bill.

When you fill up with gasoline, you didn't pay the fuel tax to Thailand the service station did.  So did the business pay or did you. 

The fact is the top 5% pay more than the bottom 90%  With a standard deduction now $25,900 anyone earning less than that PAYS NOTHING. 


https://taxfoundation.org/publications/latest-federal-income-tax-data/

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Actually I agree with "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" as long as the "from each" part is actually done. Problem now in western society IMO is that too many give nothing but still expect to get ( and do get ).

You are as Reagan described when he said.  It isn't that our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant.  They just know so much that isn't true"

The top 10% of all income earners paid MORE THAN THE BOTTON 90%.



https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html