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10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Neta V is a great car and fantastic value.

It's cheap but you get what you pay for. I think the MG 4 is better value for money (based on specs) although I haven't tried either yet.

22 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Nice to see BYD e6 EV taxis at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday 

 

Until they start hogging all the public chargers in Bangkok...

This topic is bound to cause a lot of debate but I think the batteries in electric cars are designed and tested to be much much safer than the cheap batteries in cheap no name scooters.

This is the test drive form in Thai. I'm not sure if it's the same for all dealers.

Has anyone been for a test drive with MG? I had booked one for today but they just told me there's no insurance and I have to sign a contract for liability in case of any accident so I think I'm going to cancel.

Too many uninsured drivers around in Thailand...

Has anyone been for a test drive with MG? I had booked one for today but they just told me there's no insurance and I have to sign a contract for liability in case of any accident so I think I'm going to cancel.

Too many uninsured drivers around in Thailand...

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/byd/seal

https://thedriven.io/2023/09/01/kia-ev5-lands-in-china-with-surprisingly-low-affordable-price-for-small-electric-suv/

The new Kia EV5 looks interesting with very competitive pricing China. It would be nice to get some more affordable choices in Thailand apart from MG but I expect the price will be much higher if it ever launches here.

Surprisingly though, the Kia Carnival is available in Thailand at less than half the cost of a Toyota Alphard.

1 hour ago, Furioso said:

That's a pretty good deal but I guess you have to finance to get it.

 

I'm looking at paying cash and getting at least 10% off, 1 year insurance + free tint all windows. 

Cheers, let us know how it goes. 10% off is better than the 2 years insurance (worth around 40k).

12 hours ago, Furioso said:

My neighbor has a 2021 HS, he bought it for under 1 million baht. He has driven it all over Thailand and had zero problems. However, he does take outstanding care of it, very clean(spotless lol), premium petrol, and all maintenance done on time.

 

These MG's may not be as reliable as Honda or Toyota but for many it's really tough to pay their prices. I'm not big on the MG5 or ZS but I do like the VS and HS SUV's. The MG4 EV is highly rated and cheap here compared to the UK(5,000 pound less and you can talk them down even lower). 

 

Are there any other major car brands here in Thailand that will give you over 10% discounts? 

How much lower will they go on the MG4? It already seems like a bargain with the 3 years free insurance promotion.

https://www.mgcars.com/en/Promotion/Detail/new-mg4-electric

10 hours ago, still kicking said:

Nonsense I had my business for 25 years do you know how much tax I paid?

Notice how I said most not all. There are exceptions to every rule.

1 hour ago, DiDiChok said:

What a gloomy lot of people in this thread!  Yes, we're all going to die, but not today for most people.  Immigration Officers are Police, in the Government scheme and will be all right when they retire.  However, I do agree that this is not so for many other occupations.  In my village we've got all kinds of Government ex-employees who are comfortable and others have various ways of getting income including skimming from their children as mentioned before.  Is nobody thinking that the real reason for raising the pension age is caused by the lower numbers of contributing younger people these days?

 

Pensions are something that you have to contribute to over many years, as I did over 40 years and I can tell you that it wasn't cheap either.  But I was educated about it before I was 20 by my parents and I'm now over 70.  Thailand has only just woken up to Pensions and most wouldn't pay into one even if they'd got the money to do that.  The part of the Thai mind set that thinks about the future is not as well set up as it is in the west, but that is now changing at last.  An insurance broker and financial adviser lives nearby and he tells me that now, retirement planning is one of his best business aspects.

 

I remember bursting out laughing in my 20's when I met someone for the first time who he told me that he hadn't got a pension.  I thought it was a kind of April fools' joke.  When I started work you had to join the pension scheme or you couldn't have the job.  I had just been assuming that everyone else was in the same situation and they aren't.  You cannot base your retirement on a plan based on winning the lottery.  I blame the "woke" generation to whom everything is now optional when to us "Boomers" it plainly isn't.

The problem with most boomers is they didn't pay enough taxes to cover their government pensions due to massively increased life expectancy...

So now it's up to the younger generation to make up the shortfall with sky high taxes to support a rapidly ageing population.

18 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

It is more expensive than charging at home, but it’s still a lot cheaper than petrol or diesel.

 

350 baht for 400km in an MG4 or equivalent.

Yes it's a lot cheaper than most cars but it's also a lot of hassle charging in a condo. Assuming MG 4 efficiency of around 6km/kWh I estimate 1.2 baht/km

But a Toyota Yaris Ativ has a very efficient petrol engine (23.3km/L) which works out around 1.7 baht/km with the current high price of oil.

If gasohol goes back down to around 30 baht then the running cost should be roughly the same. Obviously for those with cheaper home charging an EV makes a lot more sense.

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

It could be 3 phase 22Kw, which means your car will draw whatever on-board charger it has.  

 

Most on-board chargers are 7.2Kw, a few are 11Kw, very few are 22Kw (It's a 100,000 baht option on a Porsche Taycan for example).

 

In the 2nd graphic you posted, they are talking about 22KwHr delivery, they don't specify the Kw.

 

I think you can be confident it will deliver 7Kw so it's a rate of about 7 baht / KwHr which is not unreasonable, if you can charge at 11 or 22Kw then it's a bargain.

Thanks for the info, that makes more sense and 7 baht/kWh seems a bit expensive for slow charging at home.

No wonder hardly anyone uses it, especially considering the hassle of moving the car when finished to avoid overtime fees of 100 baht/hr.

I guess I'll have to move to a house before buying an EV.

I'm trying to figure out the cost of charging at my condo before considering an EV.

The ReverSharge app just says it's type 2, AC and 50 baht per hour but it doesn't say the power output.

Juristic staff are useless as they told me it's DC but they eventually sent me a photo of the specifications.

Looks like it's 22kW which would equate to 2.27 baht per kWh which seems unusually cheap...can anyone confirm?

The pink line has been "almost" finished and on the verge of opening for years now.

It's almost as if they don't want to finish it and they are dragging it out as long as they can.

Private businesses seem get things done in no time (be it condos or malls) but anything government related takes forever.

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That's money in their pocket, and no need to pay for them to take the old unit.  They'll take if for free.

That's what I thought....if anything they should be paying you to take it.

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

$16,000 EV from Nissan with bidirectional charging

 

 

 

So are we going to the Sakura in Thailand? Nissan has been forced to pause orders in Japan after the waiting period for the vehicle spanned over a year. The Sakura is now the best selling EV in Japan

 

The success of the Sakura has taken Nissan by surprise, who now need to scale up production to initially meet domestic demand before exports start.

 

The car is jointly developed with Mitsubishi Motors who call their version the eK X EV (pronounced “eK cross EV”)

 

 

It looks super narrow, tiny battery (20kWh) and only 47 kW (63 hp; 64 PS) which makes the Neta V look good at 38.5 kWh, 95 hp respectively.

Have any MG4 owners here looked at the undertray? There seems to be a minor defect:

https://www.mgevs.com/threads/mg4-undertray-dip-bulge.7796/