Will B Good

Thank you.

A high court judge....what has that got to do with the government?

Laws don't necessarily make people follow laws.......the risk of being caught combined with a punishment does.

Bit of a fiddle re units....but The Hubble Constant is closing in on 42 millimeters per second per parsec.

.........because of a lack of laws or political will to enact laws....????

Doesn't make a ha'peth of difference, will or appeasement, to my argument......you can't do anything unless you have a law in place.......not sure why you can't see that????

...and he's back.

Good point, well made. Just 'lost' my Bose Sound 10 to a gecko.

LL....you made a funny....must be nearly Christmas

Fascinating......could you expand on that and explain how human rights nonsense prevents a women in, say, Middlesbrough from having children by overprotecting her?

Without a law you are dead in the water, the police and judiciary can do nothing.....with a law you at least have the potential to do something ......if there's a political will to do so. You could quite hold your focus long enough to reach the end of that short sentence???

I assumed the comment made, being so stupid, was supposed to be comedic ?

Get a life.

Even with your foot issue I'd try to give some of these chair yoga exercises a good go......I find my mind races if I fail to get a good stint of exercise each day.

Without a law you are dead in the water, the police and judiciary can do nothing.....with a law you at least have the potential to do something ......if there's a political will to do so.

Blaming it on misogyny in Obama's case would be a real stretch....555

Absolutely horrific......and it is criminal that from 2011 to 2021, despite every attempt by Baroness Cox, the Tory government failed to support her every step of the way in her efforts to introduce laws to prevent this from happening.

I'm all in for Nothing......don't recall of his/her/their posts, but got to better than the vitriolic poison dripped into the forum by Yagoda

So you read none of this???? Demands were made by North Korea to secure Otto Warmbier’s release, though they were largely implicit rather than formally stated. North Korea has a history of using detained foreigners as bargaining chips to extract concessions or demonstrate diplomatic leverage, and Warmbier’s case was no exception. Demands and Diplomatic Context 1. Public Confession and Propaganda Victory • North Korea demanded that Otto Warmbier confess publicly to his alleged crime of stealing a propaganda poster. • His confession was broadcast globally, likely serving North Korea’s aim to portray the U.S. as morally corrupt and justify their anti-American policies. 2. Negotiation Leverage • Warmbier’s detention came at a time of high tensions between the U.S. and North Korea over nuclear weapons programs and sanctions. • Analysts suggest North Korea may have intended to use him as leverage for future negotiations on sanctions relief or foreign aid. 3. Ransom Allegations • In 2019, reports emerged that the U.S. government agreed to pay $2 million for Warmbier’s medical expenses as a condition of his release. • The Trump administration later clarified that no payment was actually made, though the demand highlighted North Korea’s financial motives. 4. Diplomatic Engagement • The U.S. made several diplomatic overtures to secure Warmbier’s release. • Sweden, which acts as an intermediary for the U.S. in North Korea, likely played a role in back-channel communications. While no official demands were confirmed, North Korea likely viewed Otto Warmbier’s detention as an opportunity for propaganda and bargaining leverage.

The word is he's in it for power, for the moment at least, .....the money will come later......he's already the US First lady.

Had numerous accidents occurred on a straight, well lit, good quality road in the absence of other vehicles......then maybe....just maybe....555

So if I take some hostage.......but make no demands.....they are not a hostage?....mmmmm?? Demands were made by North Korea to secure Otto Warmbier’s release, though they were largely implicit rather than formally stated. North Korea has a history of using detained foreigners as bargaining chips to extract concessions or demonstrate diplomatic leverage, and Warmbier’s case was no exception. Demands and Diplomatic Context 1. Public Confession and Propaganda Victory • North Korea demanded that Otto Warmbier confess publicly to his alleged crime of stealing a propaganda poster. • His confession was broadcast globally, likely serving North Korea’s aim to portray the U.S. as morally corrupt and justify their anti-American policies. 2. Negotiation Leverage • Warmbier’s detention came at a time of high tensions between the U.S. and North Korea over nuclear weapons programs and sanctions. • Analysts suggest North Korea may have intended to use him as leverage for future negotiations on sanctions relief or foreign aid. 3. Ransom Allegations • In 2019, reports emerged that the U.S. government agreed to pay $2 million for Warmbier’s medical expenses as a condition of his release. • The Trump administration later clarified that no payment was actually made, though the demand highlighted North Korea’s financial motives. 4. Diplomatic Engagement • The U.S. made several diplomatic overtures to secure Warmbier’s release. • Sweden, which acts as an intermediary for the U.S. in North Korea, likely played a role in back-channel communications. While no official demands were confirmed, North Korea likely viewed Otto Warmbier’s detention as an opportunity for propaganda and bargaining leverage.

Which bit was the victory? 1. Huge military and strategic defeats 2. Severe political and diplomatic consequences 3. Massive social and economic costs 4. Embarrassing symbolism of being booted out of SE Asia

15 years for taking down a poster....allegedly......and that isn't taking him hostage???.......555

Bay of pigs?