MrMojoRisin

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   Re writing history there .

Hamas goals were to eradiate Israel and to replace the whole of Israel with a Palestinian state .

Hamas retreated back to Gaza because Israel defeated them in street battles and they were either killed or fled back to Gaza, which has been reduced to rubble .

  But I am sure your boys will declare victory over the Zionists once the dust has settled 

You think the objective on October 7 was to eradicate Israel?

World opinion, particularly non occidental is increasingly falling behind the Palestinian cause.

At the very least, Hamas has ended Netanyahus political career.

There is no future for Zionism, if Israeli’s take too long to accept this fact, there may just well be no future for Israel as well.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Israel does not have a duty not to kill Palestinians.

Israel did not commit 'atrocities' this time around.

Israel's supposed 'war crimes' will be addressed when the fighting is over, rather than decided by your propaganda posts.

Israel did not steal any land in this current iteration.

 

Interestingly enough, you seem to see the Palestinians as having no duties, obligations or responsibilities. A rather telling position.

Semantics and qualifications…., the dam wall is bursting for Israel, the civilised world is appalled at the land hungry genocidal maniac that Israel has become.

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Which part of 'Israel has a duty to protect its own citizens' are you not getting. The only people that are advocating genocide are the Palestinian Terrorists. Does it give you great pleasure excusing the satanic crimes of the Palestinians or have you just got a short memory span, either way it doesn't make sense.

If Israel cared about protecting its citizens it would be in favour of a two state solution; instead, Israel seems quite content to exchange the lives of their citizens as well as those of the Palestinian for more land.

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

That former official's anti-Israel stance was addressed on the previous main topic. That you treat his words as gospel and out of context is just the way you roll on these topics. The article you quoted contains other, more nuanced views - which you obviously did not quote.

And in a Nov. 2 press release, a separate coalition of U.N. experts similarly expressed concern,warning that Palestinians were “at grave risk of genocide.”

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   What was it that made Hamas stop committing war crimes and atrocities after October 7 th ?

Hamas stopped because they achieved their objective. 
 

The real question is did Israel’s right wing government allow the attack to happen???

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why did they stop in their attempt to eradicate Israel ?

Hamas have never been and never will be an existential threat to Israel.

The only reason Hamas pose any threat to Israeli security is because Netanyahu enabled their growth via his financial and political support in order to “thwart a two state solution”.

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

 

I doubt you'd say rockets are ineffectual if they were launched at your home. That Israel took measures (Iron Dome, shelters, warning system) to make it less of a threat is something that you seem to ignore.

 

As for Hamas not doing more of the same - not because they do not want to, but because of current IDF action. Hamas leaders already quoted they would do it over and over again.

 

Two-state solutions aren't a Hamas hallmark. The PA was also lukewarm on past instances when Israel's leaders were for it. That you try to spin things in a certain way does not change facts.

 

As for believing stuff - you seem to believe all the nonsense you spew.

The Israeli death toll hasn’t moved much since October 7th…, how to justify the murder of 6000+ children when there exists zero imminent threat???

Israel’s offers have always been unacceptable to any reasonable Palestinian - put the 67 borders back on the table and war is over.

2 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

Terrorist apologist much!

Israel has done more to save the lives of the Palestinians than their own glorious leaders have, anymore Oct 7th incidents will be dealt with in the same way, so it might be a good idea for the brainwashed illiterate terrorists to stop trying to kill the Israelis, it will never end well for them. 

Israel has a duty to protect its citizens!

No entity has killed more Palestinians than Israel.

Israel has a duty to not commit atrocities and war crimes as well as to not steal land and operate an apartheid state - they take none of these responsibilities seriously.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Israel does not, other than in your hate-filled, wild allegations posts.

 Yeah.., just me and Time magazine

It’s been enough to prompt Craig Mokhiber, a director at the United Nations, to resign over the organization’s “failure” to act against what he called a "text-book case of genocide." And in a Nov. 2 press release, a separate coalition of U.N. experts similarly expressed concern, warning that Palestinians were “at grave risk of genocide.”

https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/

46 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Did I miss the article where Macron told HAMAS to stop killing women and babies in Israel?

Where Macron told HAMAS to stop invading Israel?

Where Macron told HAMAS to stop breaking existing long term cease fires by continually killing innocent civilians with rocket attacks in Israel. (More than 1,000 rockets a years fired at random targets.)

Have Hamas done any of those things (other than firing ineffectual rockets) since October 7th?

46 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Get real people. HAMAS are the problem and they were elected into power by the people of Gaza. The same people that they use as a human defence barrier to try and save their murderous lives.

BTW they tell lies as well. Do not believe everything that HAMAS spout.

The problem is that Israel refuses a fair two state solution.

Should we believe everything Israel spouts?

On 11/16/2023 at 8:34 AM, Morch said:

 

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

What is interesting is that the more this unfolds the less you try to hide being a terrorist supporter.

And taking a note from their playbook, you cowardly hide behind the 'ignore' button, lobbing comments at others.

At this point, there is more shame to be had for supporting Israel than supporting Hamas.

Quite the effort by the Israeli’s, to be more despicable than a bona fide terrorist organisation.

I guess that’s the expected result though if you’re at a point where the French President has to plead for you to stop killing women and babies.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That was her side of the story. Does it occur to you that the Israelis obviously thought she was aiming to run over people? 

 

Why are you assuming the Israeli’s can do no wrong.

If this lady is speaking 100% truthfully would it make any difference, Israel are still going to do whatever they want regardless of whether it’s right or wrong…. that’s how apartheid works.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's not a genocidal war by Israel. The Israeli intention is not genocide. On the other hand, the intention of Hamas is genocide.

Hamas talks about genocide, Israel commits genocide.

Not hard to work out which side is worse.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It would help if you knew the definition of genocide.

All you have left is semantics.

It may be a slow motion genocide, but it is certainly genocide.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You have posted that three times in 28 minutes . 

And it still hasn’t sunk in for you yet!

Fancy having to be told to stop killing women and babies.

What monsters they are.

Wouldn't you agree?

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Wouldn't need to be told if Hamas didn't use woman and children as human shields ,. 

That is how Hamas operate , they hide among civilians and using them as human shields and when they get killed, they complain about woman and children getting killed......................when Hamas are the ones putting them in the firing line 

Fancy having to be told to stop killing women and babies.

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not at all , Hamas deliberately targeted Children and Woman , raped and murdered them

Israel didn't deliberately target woman and Children , actually, Israel asked the Palestinian woman and Children to move to safer areas , so they wouldn't get caught in the crossfire .

   Nice that Hamas released that two year old  girl who they have been holding hostage for the last three weeks today

   

 

Fancy having to be told to stop killing women and babies.

Fancy having to be told to stop killing women and babies.

Here endeth the debate on moral equivalency between Hamas and the IDF.

Equivalency confirmed!

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Three of you and neither you still cannot name a war crime committed by Israel during this war 

Why is it that none of you can name even one ?

I will tell you why .

Because Israel hasn't committed any war crimes during this war

You can easily prove me wrong if you want to  

Since the start of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war on 7 October 2023, the UN Human Rights Council identified "clear evidence" of war crimes by both Hamas and the Israel Defense Forces. A UN Commission to the Israel–Palestine conflict stated that there is "clear evidence that war crimes may have been committed in the latest explosion of violence in Israel and Gaza, and all those who have violated international law and targeted civilians…, 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2023_Israel–Hamas_war

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I don't know , I was asking you that question . 

We are both asking each other the same question .

I was hoping that you were going to answer .

We had both better ask someone else 

You are confsude.

The war crimes are what the Biden administration fears journalists will expose during the ceasefire.

Israel is clearly guilty, time will only reinforce this fact.

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Please. The effort of writing takes considerably longer than any effort to read unless the reader has a serious case of dyslexia. In any event, what does the validity of the information have to to with whether someone paraphrases it or not? Seems like an excuse to maintain willful ignorance.

Wilful ignorance, incredibly apt term being correctly applied in this instance.

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  For the tenth time of asking, what war crimes have been committed by Israel ?

You keep making that claim whilst never giving examples of your claims

What are the war crimes committed by Israel  ?

Is this part of the Zen code to waging war or whatever the book was called 

Commit war crimes yourself, never admit to them and then accuse your enemy of committing war crimes ?

What war crimes????

The ones that the Biden administration is afraid journalists will see during the ceasefire.

41 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   1 Million people marched against Israel in the U.K

66 Million people in the UK DIDNT march against Israel .

 

 

Wrong comparison.

1 million marched for Palestine, how many marched for Israel?

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

If a Turkish pro-government news outlet is what you depend on to make such an argument, things must be dire indeed.

Count the people in the streets my friend, count the people in the streets.

The tired old tactic of dismissing any information source that doesn’t kowtow to Israel is puerile.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Get the remaining Hostages freed then back to business Smash Hamas once and for all flatten Gaza and rebuild it to a Western standard if they don't want that let them stay as they are take the hand live a better life, or stay in the stone age up to them, but if any attacks start again they will be dealt another backlash.

Back to business smashing Hamas, or back to business blowing up kids?

The dead kid tally is already over 6,000, how high would you like to see it go in order to “smash Hamas?”