MrMojoRisin

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Your recall is erroneous besides.

The Jerusalem post disagrees:

https://m.jpost.com/american-politics/after-charlottesville-trump-violated-washingtons-promise-to-us-jews-638283

Very unusual for wartime leaders to be ousted.

It would appear that many Israeli’s believe a fair amount of the blame for October 7th lies with Netanyahu.

Joe Biden and top aides have discussed the likelihood that Benjamin Netanyahu’s political days are numbered — and the president has conveyed that sentiment to the Israeli prime minister in a recent conversation.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/01/biden-administration-thinks-netanyahu-may-not-last-politically-00124849

11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Stop thinking you are a smart @rse, you are not, your posts could be written by a naive 5 year old.

*niave

tick tock…

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Do you think that the Palestinian terrorists will have learned a lesson by all this misery they have caused?

So, your post infers:

Palestinians have learned nothing

Palestinians caused “all the misery”

Any thoughts on the Israeli’s?

Your type of thinking is what has caused “all the misery”.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Being antiwar is all fine and good when war can be avoided by reasonable compromises through negotiations. This is not one of those times.

Israel didn't ask for this war but Israel must fight this war.

This was an entirely preventable war for a very very long time.

How Israel is fighting this war is what the world is taking issue with.

Being anti war is more than “fine and good” - it is necessary for anyone who wants to be deemed civilised, humane, decent, ethical and moral.

I assume Piers Morgan links are approved.

🤷

Just now, Yellowtail said:

I cannot open it, and it is not a transcript liar.

 

I can see the headline though, which calls it a "concept paper", not a plan, which means you are both liars, but we already knew that. 

 

 

Once it leaked, Israel labelled it “hypothetical”. 
 

What’s the actual truth and Israel’s actual plan?

🤷

The fog of war.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231031-israeli-ministry-drafted-concept-proposal-for-transfer-of-gaza-civilians-to-egypt

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Can you link to a transcript of Netanyahu's comments on what you call a draft plan? 

 

If you want to have any credibility, you need to support your claims. 

I should do what you non-antisemites do and tell you to “look up topic, it’s all there and has been proven many times already”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/31/benjamin-netanyahu-gaza-israel-palestine-egypt-expel-policy/

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Wonder what the Hostage death count is in the morning. It was 7 today Hamas confirmed.

It appears neither Israel nor Hamas care much for the hostages lives.

Kind of morbid musing from you though.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Liar

You are wrong.

Netanyahu has commented on the draft plan.

An honourable man would retract and apologise.

Balls in your court..,

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Basic PPE

I was being generous when I said jokes. I should have said “attempted humour” as it simply isn’t funny.

Nor is this one.

Keep trying though, maybe one day…

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I support free speech, but I do not support people being compelled to listen. 

 

That Mike Tyson was a great boxer, does not mean he's an expert on boxing. 

No one is compelling you.

You obviously don’t know much about Tyson and they way Cus trained him.

13 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

If Hamas are not willing to protect their Civilians from air attacks they can at least dish out some hard hats and give em a bit of protection.

Making jokes about civilians getting killed - how charming and civilised.

5 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Scott works for RT News with regular articles. Part of your Russian network of friends and pedos. It provides no value n this forum troll

I can see how it would provide no value to the narrow, closed or small minded or to those suffering from the likes of Dunning Krugers or some such disorder, however, there are many here who have none of the aforementioned afflictions and hearing from a diverse range of voices, even those they disagree with, has value to them.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

From your link: 

How much trust do you have in the Hamas-led government? 

A great deal of faith:  ~12%

Quite a lot:                  ~17%

Not a lot:                    ~23%

                                   ~52%

Not at all:                   ~45%

 

So less than half have no faith in the Hamas-led government. Clearly hamas is polling better among Palestinians than President Biden is polling among Americans. 

 

More from your link: 

Which party, if any, do you feel closest to?

Fatah                                     ~30%

Hamas                                   ~27%

Palestinian Islamic jihad        ~7%                

Other,                                     ~14%

No party                                 ~15%

Don't know                              ~7%

 

So combined, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad parties are the largest voting bloc in Palestine, and both are terrorist groups, and both want to exterminate all the Jews in Israel, after raping many of them.

You’re suffering from comprehension issues.

The article states:

Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It could well end up in a World war with the  free Western Countries fighting against  the oppressive regimes of China , Iran and Russia . 

   Some of the Russians , Iranians and Chinese people will side with the free Western Countries , some westerners will side with the oppressive regimes 

Given the choice between WW3 and allowing Israel to maintain its apartheid state, I think the US cuts Israel loose.

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

BTW -- I totally believe this -- that the majority of non Israeli Palestinians do not want two states but instead want the end of Israel, just as Hamas does.

 

Totally believe it because it's true, or because you want it to be true?

Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas#:~:text=On the eve of Hamas's,percent of the adult population.

I missed this:

The White House says Biden conveyed the same message directly to Netanyahu during a telephone call this past week. “It also means that when this crisis is over, there has to be a vision of what comes next, and in our view it has to be a two-state solution,” Biden said.

The US appears to be legitimately onboard for a two state solution.

If Trump loses in 2024, there will likely be a Palestinian State before 2028.

What a crowning achievement that would be for Biden.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

So, now you know many Israelis, I thought you might.............🙄

I don't know any Israelis's.

However,

8 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I think that the domestic/internal actions of the Israeli citizens and politicians are going to have more impact for the future of Israel as state than the Palestinian and neighboring countries military and diplomatic influence.

Agreed.

Many Israeli's are appalled at the lurch to right wing extremism ongoing since the turn of the century.

The immediate danger is war favours Netanyahu and therefore he is in no rush to contain it or end it.

Netanyahu's political career ends when this war ends - he will unnecessarily prolong it.

The US has to pull on his leash, sooner rather than later - the problem here though is that they are about to enter the pointy end of their election cycle and appearing to side with Muslim Arabs won't play well with voters so likely won't happen.

Expect more parties to enter the war against Israel if it drags on too long.

Then what?

28 minutes ago, transam said:

Do you know what Off-topic means........?.........

Stop whinging and use the ignore button if it bothers you.

2 minutes ago, transam said:

How come you don't post on any other subject....?   

Rather strange, think I found one other post elsewhere in resent days, is it because there is nothing out there trollable....?   🤔

No coups.

9 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Wait, this is getting fun. You expect me to go back to your previous posts and I am still waiting for links from you to back up all those ridiculous claims. Get a grip troll. I know your mates have you back on shift but you need to work harder

Kind of convenient way to operate - make baseless claims and then refuse to back them up with evidence.

Why do you have to go back to any previous posts - if your making the claims then you must know what they are without having to look anything up.

Good chance the IDF would give you a job if you enquired.

6 minutes ago, Morch said:

But I did hit some people with a baseball bat

Was it a Palestinian?