MrMojoRisin

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It is 100% sure that the government is corrupt if people vote for corrupt politicians.

It might be difficult to find decent honest politicians. But if people want an honest government, then that is what they should vote for. 

Not true.

Checks and balances can be put in place to minimise / prosecute corruption.

Why do you think it is that after every coup the unelected regime tears up the constitution and replaces it with one that significantly reduces checks, balances and oversight of their activities?

Whats 100% true is that your Thaksin obsession and inability to own your political views is fooling no one - given the choice between elections and coups, you are clearly pro coup (to the point of denying reality to remain ensconced in your own little fantasy world where any and everything can be justified by simply parroting any old made up “Thaksin is the devil” nonsense).

What do you know of honesty and decency??

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let's not forget that most people in those villages up country don't pay any income tax.

They don't really care if taxes are wasted - it's not their money.

 

And they are stupid enough to vote for the daughter of the fugitive criminal and hope she will do what he tells her to do and then they are surprised when they get a corrupt government.

My advice: If you want an honest government then don't vote for criminal corrupt crooks or their family members.

The fact is, when Paetongtarn wins next years election the net result will be a significant drop in the level of corruption in Thailand during her reign.

The only stupid people are the ones lacking the requisite quantity of grey matter to see the obvious.

What sort of magical thinking places unelected proven crooks as more desirable administrators than elected (falsely) accused crooks?

2 hours ago, JingerBen said:

Those brainwashed proles would support Thaksin's dog if it was put up for election.

The fact that Thaksin’s dog would win an election is a resounding condemnation of just how godawful the unelected coup loving fascists are.
The “proles” are clearly operating several iq levels above you, my brainwashed fiend.

41 minutes ago, DezLez said:

24.9% of 1063 people polled is not exactly a "ringing endorsement" as implied in the headline!

62.5% of respondents favoured pro democracy candidates whilst a measly 20.7% favoured anti democracy candidates.

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Hear that ringing yet?

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

Sure, military take over is NOT OK, NEVER EVER OK!

 

That doesn't mean thaksin and his family are legitimate, it doesn't mean they did win FREE AND FAIR elections. Vote buying was rampant and in many areas people were frightened to NOT vote for thaksins machine. 

 

So you've been here since 2002 teaching scuba divng etc.

 

I've been working here for 35+ years in mainstream very large Thai companies and in international conglomerates and in JVs 49% owned by inter. conglomerates and 51% Thai gov't agencies. 

 

I've mentioned before I worked for some time with a loud in your face Thai lady who loudly reminded all Thai staff that her father was a snr cop and was the paymasters organizer for a large part of NE Thailand. She proudly/openly admitted the vote buying. She spoke very advanced English.

 

I recall one of the farang in the office commented to this lady 'so you give people money to vote RED, but how do you now they do actually do vote RED? She laughed and said 'they wouldn't dare NOT voting RED and we tell them we can check'.

 

There had been incidents where a big 'sign' had been painted on the houses of folks who didn't vote for the paymaster. These families were instantly seriously harrassed by their neighbors, houses and cars burned etc., and the familied fled. Note that in previous times it had been proven that ballot forms had been marked on the back so that it was traceable back to the name of the voter.

 

Also don't forget the election where the RED folks insisted that the voting booths had no curtains and that RED monitors could closely watch what voters were indicating on their ballot papers.

 

Further, I have a close Thai friend who was a very senior beaurocrat in a ministry which handled massive funds distribution. There was an incident, when the paymasters mob were in power, he had a sudden visit from several of the paymasters 'appointed' ministerial officials who had documents in hand to transfer many many millions of Baht to an unknown beneficiary. He refused to sign and these folks quickly threatened the senior beaurocrat if he didn't sign now there would be consequences for his young family. 

 

My friend made an excuse to leave the room for a second, ran to his actual office, scooped up several important personal documents and fled the building, hailing a taxi on the street and changing taxi several times and meanwhile telling his wife by phone to very quickly pack some clothes and all their personal documents. They grabbed the kids from school and direct to the airport and fled Thailand.

 

The mother of one of my sons Uni buddies has a royal title and was a very snr. public servant, quite shy lady. When the 1Million Baht Village Fund was started the lady was appointed (not asked or invited) to a fund monitoring committee.

 

She was horrified how the money was being used in most villages, and she protested. She was promptly seriously intimidated and she quickly resigned from the public service. 

Blah, blah, blah.

Every election won by the “Reds” allowed international observers who unanimously declared the elections free and fair (minor corruption uncovered was at a level insufficient to affect the outcome).

The last “election” did not allow international observers… why do you think that is.

Every elected government has attempted to amend the constitution to make it more democratic.

Every coup installed government has ripped up the constitution and replaced it with a less democratic one.

Your whole diatribe is garbage. You condemn Thaksin for the splinter in his eye whilst ignoring the log in the Juntas eye.

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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I remember that people gave her a chance to do her job. Will she work for all Thais and Thailand or for her brother?

And then there was that night when her party tried to whitewash Thaksin, together with many other criminals.

That was the beginning of the end of Yingluck.

I was here and I clearly remember it. You could look it up... 

 

 

Yingluck’s government tried to pass an amnesty bill through parliament, following parliamentary procedures and you have a problem with this, yet… coup after coup the military grant themselves amnesty and not a peep from you.

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Constantly stating “I was here” does not turn lies into truth. 

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you think Yingluck is innocent?

Do you think people should be allowed to flee the country because otherwise they might get arrested?

Do you think Thaksin and his family should be above the law?

There is little doubt that the Shinawatra family is guilty as charged for many crimes.

If they think they are innocent, then why don't they fight in the Thai courts?

 

Let's not forget why Yingluck's government was removed: They tried to whitewash her brother, together with many other criminals, somewhere in the middle of the night.

If Yingluck would have worked for Thailand and not her brother, then she wouldn't face any charges.

Obsessed much?

Prayuth and the military have got Thaksin and his sister covered a hundredfold when it comes to crime and corruption.

Yingluck's government was "removed" because she was too popular to contest an election against.

Funny how being a popular anti-establishment politician in Thailand (Thaksin, Yingluck, Thanathorn) suddenly turns one into a criminal in the eyes of the Thai courts (and anti-democracy fascists).

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why would anybody vote for a relatively young woman with little experience to lead the nation?

Only because her father is a wanted criminal? TiT

 

 

 

 

…only because her father is the most popular and successful PM Thailand has ever had is the reason why.

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

One of the better choices, who I would vote for, especially as he is very knowledgeable about/pro digital assets. Also helped me out with a couple of issue in the past.

 

Given the choice between supporting democracy or coups, this man repeatedly chose to back the illegal overthrow of elected governments, even as the dead bodies piled up and the levels of graft exploded. His political career has been dead in the water since 2010… the man has no shame (and no hope).