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18 minutes ago, Virt said:

Yeah i know about that one. I just didn't think about that as a major ship ????

 

I hope there are some official news soon. It would be a good start on a Saturday if Ukraine managed to damage that missile frigate.

 

Didn't UK shipped some anti ship missile systems to Ukraine as well?

That would be a nice supplement to the Neptunes.

 

Hopefully this war is over within a month, when the Russians realize they are fighting a lost war.

 

I met a Ukrainian refugee couple last week that couldn't get back home and they showed me pictures of their bomb shelled home that was destroyed.

When meeting such people in person, the reality moves closer.

 

"The Russian landing ship can hold twenty main battle tanks or up to forty other armored vehicles that could support operations in Ukraine."

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Would Italy let me borrow it for a couple of weeks. ????

If you did you would have to bring your own Beer Chang as I can't see them serving it in that lounge.  ????

38 minutes ago, Virt said:

Yeah it would be excellent if they crippled that frigate.

Especially 2 days before the Russian victory gay parade on Monday.

 

If true it's quite amazing how Russia can lose two major ships in a war against a country with no Navy.

 

I'm glad I'm not the one that has to bring the news to Putin.....

 

Keep on fighting Ukraine.

Russia will lose this war they started, as long as we in the west keep delivering the hardware.

It would be the 3rd major ship as Ukraine sunk a large landing ship in dock as well.

In addition there were 2 high speed coast patrol boats sunk .

Looks fun!  ????

3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

It is appalling that Russian troops are killing and torturing civilians, and I personally would find it abhorrent for rescue ships of either side to be attacked whilst attempting to complete a rescue of wounded persons. .

 

I would assume the "rescue ships" are Orc Navy ships and part of the blockade and attack on Ukraine. As such they are legitimate targets no matter what their current missions is.  ????

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19,000 THB a month for teachers of English language? ☹️

57 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

Putin humiliated as Ukraine claims 409ft frigate 'sunk by missile' - ‘most important ship

The Admiral Makarov is said to have been struck by anti-ship missiles while it was in waters off the coast of Odessa.

Rescue ships and aircraft have reportedly been sent to the area and are being tracked by US surveillance drones.

"OSINTdefender", an open source intelligence monitor, tweeted: "It’s seeming more and more likely that the claims about the Russian Frigate Admiral Makarov being stuck by Ukrainian Anti-Ship Missiles off the Coast of Odessa are true.  - Express

 

 

Wikipedia

Admiral Makarov in 2018
History
Russia
Name	Admiral Makarov
Namesake	Stepan Makarov
Builder	Yantar Shipyard
Laid down	29 February 2012[2][3]
Launched	2 September 2015[1]
Commissioned	27 December 2017
Status	Active
General characteristics
Class and type	Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate
Displacement	Standard: 3,620 tons Full: 4,035 tons[citation needed]
Length	124.8 m (409 ft)
Beam	15.2 m (50 ft)
Draught	4.2 m (14 ft)
Propulsion	2 shaft COGAG; 2 DS-71 cruise gas turbines 8,450 shp (6,300 kW); 2 DT-59 boost gas turbines 22,000 shp (16,000 kW) ; Total: 60,900 shp (45,400 kW)
Speed	30 kn (56 km/h; 35 mph)
Range	4,850 nmi (8,980 km; 5,580 mi) at 14 kn (26 km/h; 16 mph)
Endurance	30 days
Complement	200
Sensors and processing systems	Air search radar: Fregat M2M Surface search radar: 3Ts-25 Garpun-B, MR-212/201-1, Nucleus-2 6000A Fire control radar: JSC 5P-10 Puma FCS, 3R14N-11356 FCS, MR-90 Orekh SAM FCS
Electronic warfare & decoys	EW Suite: TK-25-5; Countermeasures: 4 × KT-216
Armament	1 × 100 mm A-190 Arsenal naval gun 8 (2 × 4) UKSK VLS cells for Kalibr, Oniks or Zircon anti-ship/cruise missiles[4] 24 (2 × 12) 3S90M VLS cells for 9M317M surface-to-air-missiles 2 × AK-630 CIWS 8 × Igla-S or Verba 2 × double 533 mm torpedo tubes 1 × RBU-6000 rocket launcher
Aircraft carried	1 × Ka-27 series helicopter
Aviation facilities	Helipad and hangar for one helicopter

Russia forced to abandon close fight tactic as Putin's troops coming out 'second best'

RUSSIAN troops have been forced to abandon close combat tactics in Ukraine as Vladimir Putin's army finds themselves coming out 'second best' against the Ukrainian military.

A former head of the British Army believes the ferocity of Ukraine's resistance has forced Russia to ditch close combat tactics in favour of artillery strikes from a distance. Lord Dannatt has warned the conflict raging in Ukraine has become a deadly artillery duel with the Kremlin reluctant to send Russian troops in to engage Ukrainian defenders up close amid heavy losses. 

  Express

Wear rubber flip flops.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Talk of a trial for Putin is a distraction, the issue at hand is to defeat the Russian military in Ukraine.

 

Such a defeat will have negative repercussions for Putin.

 

I suspect Russians themselves would give him a far harsher Justice than he’d ever get from any trial outside of Russia.

Agreed.

The Russian people will never hand Vlad over to foreigners for trial. If a Russian coup was successful, the most likely outcome would be a hastily formed rifle squad to execute him. 

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

How is the war crimes Putin and his forces are committing hijacking this thread, I made a post on the Ukraine delegation raising this yesterday at the UN Security Council. If other posters wanted to take it from there then thats up to them not me. 

This thread is about the military conflict in Ukraine. 

The continuing discussions about taking Vlad to court for war crimes is fantasy and as Champer Higgot said "distracting". No foreign forces are going to enter Russia and arrest him. The best outcome is that he is deposed or killed by his own people.

Alternatively, he could again copy Adolf Hitler and retreat to the Russian border from where he would build up a "fortress Russia". 

Russia sees £4m next-generation tank disintegrated days after battleground debut - VIDEO

VIDEO captured the moment a £4 million next-generation Russian super-tank was struck by Ukrainian forces just a few days after making its debut on the battleground.

The video, released by the Ukrainian military, purportedly shows images of Ukrainian forces successfully shooting and blowing up a Russian super-tank worth £4m just a few days after it was first rolled out in the ongoing conflict. The tank, with reinforced steel and a special automatic defence system, is believed to be a highly advanced Russian T-90M and it seems to be the first to be destroyed in Ukraine. Daily Express

Video

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Agreed the Russians need to be defeated but Re Putin it can only be a hope and thats all but hope its important. However the reference to war crimes is mentioned daily and quite rightly so. These crimes all need to be thoroughly investigated and documented and there's a lot of hard work going on in Ukraine with experts doing that right now. Charges are the next step and ones that the victims will be grateful for.

 

That said Sergiy Kyslytsya did not mention Putin, he mentioned his henchmen and I have no doubt this also includes the frontline soldiers who have been carrying out the rapes, tortures and executions of civilians.

 

Ukraine prepares war crimes charges against Russian military personnel, including pilots

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-prepares-war-crimes-charges-against-russian-military-personnel-including-2022-04-26/

 

The Prosecutorʼs Office has announced the suspicion of a captured Russian pilot who bombed Chernihiv

The Prosecutorʼs Office has announced the suspicion of Russian SU-34 pilot Alexandr Krasnoyartsev, who was detained in Chernihiv on March 5.

This is stated on the website of the Prosecutor Generalʼs Office of Ukraine.

The text of the suspicion states that Aleksandr Krasnoyartsev bombed UFZAB-500, UFAB 250-270, and FAB-50 bombs in Ukraine, including civilian objects.

 

'You're not going to get away with it': Ukraine unveils first war crimes charges amid 8,000 investigations

Ukrainian authorities unveiled their first war crimes charges Thursday against members of Russia's military, as the U.S. and other countries worked behind the scenes to help Kyiv with more than 8,000 criminal investigations connected to potential atrocities in the two-month old war.

The first charges accuse 10 Russian servicemen of holding civilians hostage and mistreating them in Bucha

 

 

Sorry but I think you need to start your own thread on this instead of hijacking this thread.

Russians are 'KICKED OUT' of Azovstal steel works as fighting enters third day

Heavy fighting raged inside the Azovstal steel works in Mariupol for the third day running as the wife of the Ukrainian commander warned people are dying 'every hour, every second'.

Russian troops tried to capture the complex and failed to observe a ceasefire before they were kicked out by the plant's defenders, according to Zelensky adviser Oleksiy Arestovych.

Daily Mail

18 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

It is not off-topic.

 

But, tempers seem to be flaring and I suggest everyone take a few deep breaths and calm down.

 

You are nto going to convince each other, so just agree to disagree and move on.

This thread is about the military conflict in Ukraine. It is not about the history of Putin.

54 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Russia was welcomed into the global community, and as a part of Europe, with open arms when the wall came down.  The West pumped money into its economy - much of which was swiped by the oligarchs (who also bled the reserves left by the old USSR dry as well), and foreign businesses entered the country, raising the standard of living and services for the average Russian.  Then a dictatorial, despotic figure by the name of Putin changed the presidential laws, grabbing more power for himself than the new Russian constitution allowed, poisoned and / or imprisoned his opposition, built up private armies, a mafia and shady business networks, and hijacked the country.  Like most of his ilk, he suffered a deep fear of the outside, especially countries with more power than he, and became increasingly neurotic in an attempt to protect his criminal princedom.  To blame the West for his anger and hatred is rather like blaming your happy, healthy neighbours for your own self inflicted misery and illness. 

 

A better analogy of Russia's current situation would be the owner of a large farm, forced to free the slaves he had working for him, seeing those former slaves setting up and running their own farms next to his and, bitter at them and those who told him to set them free, continually making threats against them, while regularly sending his thugs onto their farms to sabotage their equipment, move fence lines and foment trouble amongst their workers.  When the former slaves appeal to the outside for help, the farmer uses this as an excuse to ramp up his campaign of harassment into one of terror, all the while blaming the outsiders for aiding those he has been brutalising all those years.  His end goal is to seize the farms, round up his former slaves and put them back to working for him under the supervision of his sadistic cronies.

It's good but it is Off Topic. 

8 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

 

What was hit which was under camouflage? I couldn't make it out. I am guessing a big gun?

DON'T MENTION THE WORD "SHARK"! around a beach resort.

9 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They will sell motorbike insurance to anyone who is buying, why would they not?

 

This is Thailand that is why. I doubt very much a tourist can walk into a bank and buy any type of insurance. ????