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6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am pretty sure the hospitals will have to pay up front. And the vaccine has only a limited shelf life. I understand that they don't just order amount x only to find out that the demand is not what they expected.

 

As long as they have a fair refund policy I don't think paying up front is a problem.

Perhaps if we could actually register interest first, that would give them the necessary numbers. But so far, none of the websites mentioned (Vimut, ThaiInterVac etc) allowed me to do so.

Red Bull boy will be pleased, that’s one less problem for him to deal with

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Yes indeed........although there may be a few who need to get back here for family and business reasons, but apart from that, the days of having to "jump through hoops" to appease ill-thought-through TAT and Immigration regulations have pi$$ed too many off, so not likely to be a rush.

 

Besides that, in Oz and NZ "come the end of the year" it will be summer time so better to stay where they are.

Let’s not forget also there are a lot of people who might have visited but now can’t or won’t cos they didn’t make any money the last 6 months, have lost their jobs already, or are sitting tight and holding on to whatever cash they have until they see what happens.

I have told my friend about the advice that I have gathered here and he has decided not to proceed with the application as it is just a scam from the lawyer to obtain 20,000 bht for something that offers him no protection whatsoever. He is now looking into a business visa/permit instead

Thanks to all those who have offered constructive advice

JAF

Best of luck, this year particularly they have been giving myself and many other "foreign owned" businesses I know the runaround like never before to get extensions. Setting up the company/visa/work permit wasn't too hard initially, but getting it renewed each year is becoming more fraught with continual back and forth obtaining new things each time you give them the paperwork. There seems to be something more they require each time you go back and the stack of paperwork gets bigger and bigger.

If your friend is going the business route, make sure on the Work Permit it states the job description + location(s) + (if he is a signatory for the business) that also now must be stated on the WP, and submitted along with pictures of ALL the signatories standing outside the office with the sign showing. Don't smile tho, they don't like that.

Thanks to all the posters who have offered constructive advice. The family business employs 10 thai nationals already and they are going to apply to the labor department to employ my friend on a part time basis as a designer "situated in a different location" for a supposed salary of 20,000 to 30,000 per month. I did see another poster say that his salary would have to be around 60,000 bht per month but I am unaware of the reason why. If the salary was as high as this, what would be the amount of tax to be paid compared to the lower salary?

Once again, thank you

JAF

The 60k baht number was an error and confusion between obtaining a work permit and a extension based upon working. There is no minimum salary to get a work permit. There is a minimum salary to get an extension based upon working but the highest salary dependent upon nationality is 50k baht.

Since is on an extension or visa based upon marriage he does not have a minimum salary requirement.

Yes, I stand corrected.

Thanks to all the posters who have offered constructive advice. The family business employs 10 thai nationals already and they are going to apply to the labor department to employ my friend on a part time basis as a designer "situated in a different location" for a supposed salary of 20,000 to 30,000 per month. I did see another poster say that his salary would have to be around 60,000 bht per month but I am unaware of the reason why. If the salary was as high as this, what would be the amount of tax to be paid compared to the lower salary?

Once again, thank you

JAF

Depends on nationality, but for most it's a minimum of 50k/month to qualify for a Work Permit.

http://www.thailaws.com/information/thai_legal_info_07.htm

This sets out your "rights" very clearly.

Thai immigration needs to crack down on those who intentionally abuse the system if they want to continue enjoying the lucrative revenue stream from farang visa renewals.

The Thai immigration do crack on illegals and over-stayers and I personally know 4 people whom they got (arrested & deported) inside their apartments and all of them were

either blacks or Asians, I guess I was lucky because I m a well dressed blond guy with a blue eyes for example hotels in Thailand never asked my passports and that thing happened to me in the USA too (illegal for 4 yrs there ) where the police never approached me but approached all of my friends who had darker skins.

and even some of my friends were US citizens and they got searched thoroughly and in very humiliating ways at the airports.

even worse the Thai police & security always ask for the ID of my gf (probably because she s from isaan) but never asked me so far.

the guys at immig are smart enough to spot over stayers here because they arrested my former female colleagues from Cameroon & Philippines although they overstayed less then 40 days, I m sure that I was on their radar for very long time, probably they thought i m useful to this country

Up until this post you had my sympathy and support for clearing your overstay.

This post however, to me anyway, suggests that you are/were working illegally and just flouting immigration laws, with no real justification for the overstay. Should not have mentioned the 4 year overstay in the States and not being asked for your passport (?) at hotels.

Whereas it is none of my business (or anyone else's) what you do, IMHO it shouldn't be made our business by asking advice on how to continue doing what you're doing.

Just my 2 pence worth.

+1

Such a piece of news and only 7 comments?!

Whilst it's (long overdue) "progress", those that have been here a long time know just what a joke the whole "PR" process/requirements is/are and are probably bored to post about it anymore.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (actually two fingers on one hand), the number of foreigners I've met here who have successfully achieved "PR" ... maybe I just don't mix with the richer crowd ...

Well , of course you could buy one in G/f name .

No, you can buy one in your name.... You don't even need a GF.

This massive myth that you are not allowed to own a house here really is bizarrely ingrained.

Rent land on 30 year lease.

Have a prefabricated house or lovely wooden one built to your liking, the older style wooden ones are lovely. You own it 100%, nobody else. If you ever want to move it, it is not difficult to do and many of the companies list this on their sales info, something like 20% of the cost of the house to move it at a future date if you wish.

Or build a typical Western style house that you own 100%, but is a bit more difficult to move should you wish.

People really need to stop listening to barstools and bargirls.

The confusion for many is the simple difference between "owning" a house and "owning" the land it sits on.

With a few exceptions, you can own the house outright, but you (as a foreigner) will never own or control the land it sits on ... and if a Thai wants that land, they'll find a way to get it our from under you, and you won't have a leg to stand on ... or the house or land.

That is what people are complaining about, that you cannot (as a foreigner) easily or fairly own (or even long term lease) the land that your house sits on.

EDIT: The main title of this survey is "SURVEY: Should Foreigners be Allowed to own Property?" but the actual poll survey title is "SURVEY: Should Foreigners be Allowed to own Land?"

So if you answered the poll assuming "property", then the results are all incorrect.

At the end of the day,you have to ask yourself "what makes me happy" ... I would say 99% of us are here to have a nicer, quieter, less stressful life ... and if you're not getting that, you're doing something wrong.

For me personally ... the sister and her family would be out on their ass and looking after themselves, and the house would be "mine" ... simple as that. And that "loan" they took out on the property would be contested in Court.

Alternatively, I'd say "< deleted > you" to all the family and move away somewhere else and leave the wife to deal with the fallout.

Thainess is great sometimes ... but most of the time it's just a pain in the backside and not something I want to deal with (at least not the new more modern form of it).

Based on previous experience, I wouldn't even consider opening a business here "unless" I already had a reliable Thai partner that I could depend on and that had a more "western" mindset. There's just too many "problems" when trying to deal with things on your own as a "foreigner" when it comes to living and working here. Oh, and it'll end up being a lot more expensive than you think/expect.

So the UN has accepted that Thailand IS their father ?

I thought it was the other way around.

Or is it just Thaksin who's the bastard child?

Hilarious.

"working together and not competing" ... with Thailand dictating terms (or at least trying to).

This is gonna be an epic fail.

I'm waiting for the "PM" to invoke 44 on this issue too ... then they can go back to Japan and say the problem's solved, same as with the fishery industry.

Now it's starting to get really amusing ...

And again, they show the complete inability of any Thai to look further into the future than today and/or listen to or learn from anything "outside" Thailand.

Mind you, I could say the same and worse about my home country.

And the real world (as opposed to the totally made up fantasy world of Thailand) of trade/politics/economies finally bites hard.