Tatsujin

ok, so in this amazing poll, who exactly did they think did it?

1. Anti-Junta

2. Anti-Monarchy

3. Anti-Military

4. Southern Insurgents

5. The usual "red" suspects

6. The Junta themselves

1 hour ago, elgordo38 said:

Doing their official duty or a treasure hunt?

Both, plus a third that encompasses political and dynastic "affiliations"

16 minutes ago, todlad said:

Everything you say is opinion or conjecture and of course we are all entitled to express them. How can you reject Muggi1968's post, then? In his opinion he feels things are improving here. Moreover, if you had asked him why he felt that instead if rubbishing him, that would have been better don't you think?

 

Cloak and dagger: you know about heinous crimes and criminals but if you told me you'd have to kill me. Is that one crime or a whole multitude of crimes? Enough to write off the entire country?

 

A point I make frequently is this: TV bar hoppers insist on filling in the blanks even where there are none. These people know all about brown envelopes, they know these cars will be spirited back onto the Thai market, they know that the British insurers have no interest in any of these cars ... you didn't say that but there are others here who already have.

 

A bar hopper is a generic term as you know.

 

So I'm wrong for saying/implying the original poster is blinkered, but it's ok for you to call me a bar hopper. Got it.

And no, "bar hopper" is not a generic term, it's a specific derogatory term used to describe people who sit on bar stools drinking all day, who rarely interact with the locals outside said bars or their Isaan wife/gf, and whose opinions are worth little as they have a very blinkered approach to "what" Thailand is all about.

1 hour ago, todlad said:

Of course it's not Muggi1968.

 

How did I conclude that you must be a bar hopper? Read what you said, think about it, realise it was not the smartest thing you could have said! You said "Then you're failing to see the much bigger picture and seriously failing to understand how things work here"

 

The bigger picture

failing to see

how things work here

 

It's just TV speak for I heard someone saying that, I'll repeat it. You might have anecdotal evidence for some cases that you could use to gainsay what I am saying; but sustained, deep and detailed evidence? I doubt that very much.

 

 

You are correct, I have utterly failed to provide any such evidence, and certainly wouldn't be able to do so here in a public forum in any case due to the people involved and the laws here.

However, I stated "my" opinion (as most people here do), I didn't state facts.

I simply disagreed with the original poster who thinks that things have improved or are "improving" here when to my eyes it's patently obvious it's getting worse on any number of issues or fronts.

And as an aside, I don't drink and I haven't been to a bar for more than 3 years, but if that makes me a bar hopper, no problem.

45 minutes ago, todlad said:

Good try Muggi1968 but you see how the minds of these bar hoppers work!

Who is the bar hopper? Muggi1968 or me?

If it's either one of us, how did you get to "bar hopper" from what was posted?

17 minutes ago, Muggi1968 said:

I choose to be happy that things seem to be improving and not always see things from a negative angle...

Then you're failing to see the much bigger picture and seriously failing to understand how things work here.

Another lowlife piece of shit that thinks of no one but themselves.

Should be a cut and dry case (unless he's wealthy, is the son of a cop or has the right "name"), in which case hang the bastard after sentencing.

Remove his genitals first tho as he seems to be so proud of them.

Simple answer, make sure FB has no servers in Thailand.

7 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

It's about bloody time and also a bit bloody late. If they had done it when they knew he was in the country, he wouldn't have been able to bugger off.

Yeah, but that was kinda the point.

He'll have his ordinary passport revoked but it will be replaced by a diplomatic one or one from Montenegro ...

He's in Dubai.

Both in the wrong, both going against the flow of traffic.

Truck was in the wrong cos it wasn't indicating, car was in the wrong for not seeing what would happen.

I've driven here long enough to know to give trucks and buses a very wide berth as you never know what they will do.

In a car or on a bike, you just don't put yourself in a position where you will get hit. Common sense 101.

15 minutes ago, whoareyou said:

 

I Thought you would turn to jelly when pressured. sorry I was harsh but you needed to be called out

 

Do yourself a favor and try to stay up to date with current events under the junta in Thailand even if your not here.

 

It will save you the embarrassment next time around.

 

 

 

Wow, insults and condescension, thanks for that.

I do keep up to date with current events here, as it's been my home for the last 12 years. I just don't buy into the "propaganda" that passes for reporting here.

Are you a Republican by any chance?

22 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

 

Just for the sake of discussion, what if Chaiwat and Thanturong had actually vigorously been pursuing corruption that gets too close to the "mafia" and other "influential" persons.

 

Would the outcome be any different for these men  - their immediate removal from potentially damaging investigations? Prayut's immediate confirmation for their removal in response to a citizens' complaint seems a little too anxious with the effect of making their removal irreversible.

Good to see at least one other person looking a little deeper and seeing what's actually going on.

1 minute ago, whoareyou said:

 

What is not different than before?

Are you seriously not aware?

Good for you Ignorance is bliss!

 

555+

10 minutes ago, whoareyou said:

Why talk in riddles and conspiracy?

Why don't you just list the links to your accusations. I'm open minded and will read.

The junta is shutting down illegal operations across thailand on many fronts. So how is killing the golden goose corruption.

Again why boot out vendors from Bangkok, a long time source of bribery for officials before the junta

Offer up some links or basically you are just hearsay.

Right, so I'll spend hours trawling back through articles to give you links just to save you the effort of doing it yourself.

Heres a few keywords for you to search:

Red Bull

Extrajudicial killings

Mines/Mining

Foreign Minister

Rajabhakti Park

Submarines

Railways

Bangkok Festival

Rolls-Royce

Unexplained deaths of people close to those at the top

You'll find corruption/nepotism/bribery in all.

And let's not forget, Transparency International had Thailand drop even further under the Junta to 35 in 2016.

8 minutes ago, balo said:

So you would rather keep it as it was before the coup and the military took over?  

 

Listen , corruption is everywhere , the fact is that we have been able to catch a lot of the bad guys thanks to the junta.  Or maybe you are one of those people that don't believe anything written in the media and think the whole world is a big conspiration . 

 

 

 

I didn't say I wanted it kept the way it was before, I simply don't see that what is happening now is any different than before

It's just new players doing exactly the same things whilst pretending otherwise. And above that, they're "cleaning house" step by step, but only on one side.

21 minutes ago, whoareyou said:

Read the first part of my previous post. I live on lower Sukhumvit, why would they clear our all vendors?

Not because of corruption.

I'm hugely pleased with what they did.

Why clear the boats from Bahli high and dismantle hotels on samet

Why investigate corrupt officials?

All the above could have been handled by a threat and paper bags but they were not.

So overt to you, how is this corruption?

Look a little deeper at who "was" previously being paid off to let these things slide ... ? And why is that "group" alone being targeted? And how many "military" people are getting in trouble now compared to other "groups", and then ask yourself why?

Also, have you not read any of the reports of corruption, nepotism and bribery within the current "government"? Or doesn't that count? All I'm seeing is corruption, bribery and nepotism being switched from one group to another, same as it's always been, all under the guise of reconciliation, when in reality it's all about control and keeping those at the top at the feeding trough for as long as possible.

1 hour ago, whoareyou said:

Not really the junta have shut down the cash cows on Sukhumvit. Those stall holders were paying good bribe money for decades.

 

This is a junta backed investigation . If they were taking brown envelopes this wouldn't not have made it to the press

 

Love the "faith" you place in them. Those that have already proven they are equally as corrupt as anyone else.

12 hours ago, whoareyou said:

Go the junta! We love you long time!
Finally someone with the balls to tackle the phuket mafia

Yeah, except it's a drop in the ocean and nothing will change, just who you pay.

34 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

Only for the losers. Most of us have no problems.

Love the confidence, fingers crossed it stays that way for you.

There's gonna be a drop in admission costs, and hopefully they'll investigate where all the money actually went to cos I'll lay odds it didn't (all) make it into Govt bank accounts.

21 hours ago, z42 said:

If true, congratulations to the Cambodian cops. I say that because the RTP will say that it was basically all done by them (just like when they lifted that bloke for the BKK bombing without any tip offs from anyone........)

 

But the trigger man and the getaway driver still MIA... I suspect this latest arrest can take the entire rap

You think he'll last long enough to implicate anyone? Especially the boys who are really in charge?

25 minutes ago, IMA_FARANG said:

I don't know the details.

but if was to write a mystery novel I would have the british guy  in Thailand as the local drug distributor, the alleged killer or killers in Cambodia as the enforcers, and  thai and Cambodian police as the masterminds.

but of course, I am only supposing a crime story with no facts to back that up.

 

 

you need to go a few more levels higher up from the police to be accurate, a lot higher

9 minutes ago, zorro1 said:

Damn the army is doing just about everything they said they would

Sure, but is it actually making things "better"?