Tatsujin

Read the paper we can't mention for the real reason behind this all.

Only you (OP) know the girl in any real sense, and not ALL Thai girls are out to rip people off.

If she's there trying to improve her position in life, and all has gone well with you both so far, and "if" you can afford to lose the cash if anything does go awry, I don't see the problem in helping her out.

There has to be some real level of trust in a relationship, and if at this point in the relationship you still don't feel you can trust her, I don't see that changing anytime soon unless you take a chance and give her a chance to prove the naysayers wrong.

Simple rule in life ... never "loan" more than you can afford to lose.

In a newspaper we not allowed to talk about, has Gen Prawit told there was Good news, "We won't get the red card... They have delayed this because we have always cooperated." And gets 6 months more on the yellow card.

And then The EU in Thailand declined to comment, citing the confidential nature of meeting.

Do they really know was told and discussed on the meeting

Another example of how the Thai govt happily issues statements etc on behalf of others and seem to get away with it.

They really need to be called out publicly more often, why play nice diplomatic games when they don't ?

Yes claims about F1 and the Tour de France coming here were quickly denied by the relevant organisations but making press releases on behalf of other governments is in a different league.

Well, they don't want to jeopardize their extra incomes by complaining, do they?

Bernie will always quite happily tell people to < deleted > off, he doesn't need the money, plus he can usually bend people to do what he wants them to do anyway.

It states he could be jailed for two years on criminal defamation charges.

The company whose owner also heads the Thai pineapple industry association and is elder brother of a former cabinet minister for labour....( interesting given the claims) says "the information is false."

Mr Hall claims labour abuses occurred .

What's interesting is the EU diplomats watching the proceedings.

After the loss of face recently by a delegation talking with YS instead of NCPO over trade offers for democracy improvements ....the PM might see this case as a way of giving a black eye back to those that dare smear Thailand.

Whilst I admire Mr Halls courage and work it is gullible to think consequences won't flow in such a corrupt situation.

The government like to silence people westerners included who might raise further questions on not just companies but them.

We are reminded in the article he wrote on the Burmese migrant workers who same will claim were stitched up, for the murders of two British back packers also.

So this man is no light weight.

He has the article informs worked with Aung San Suu Kyi so he is very capable and appears clean cut and diligent and I assume honest .

Given the tier 3 level and highlighted slavery on fishing vessels .

It's not a huge extension of plausibility to imagine the labour abuses of immigrant workers appears elsewhere.

So we have an interesting case where connected Thais seek damages and possibly a ruling that also includes jail time ,as well as future expulsion from the kingdom ( if he survives the jail term)

And on the other human rights groups and EU who can wave a red card in the Thai governments face at any time.

This case perhaps the final straw.

A poised seafood industry under a cloud .

Other human rights abuses in the spotlight.

How the Thais handle this will be interesting.

They already have his passport so fleeing is not an option .

Though I would if I were him ( as well as many members here who can guess the script)

One likely outcome is they say "this man damaged and defamed the good name of this Thai company and affected its trade adversely."

And the court imposes a jail term and demands many millions of baht before he is released ?

The media from the Government side run with the story of big mouthed Farang taught lesson .

And Thais needing to vent their personal life's frustration applaud.

The bottom line is with this case and the Facebook mother and Gang of 8 and so many more including former PM the judicial system is in the spotlight.

The world is noticing what's going on.

Travel agents are saying how nice Vietnam is when general asian enquiries are made.

Thailand is very much in the news too much and for the wrong reasons.

It's been two years and the military have kept a lid on things thus far.

But pressures are building.

It's one thing to jail Thais unfairly in this current situation that the elite class insists is necessary procedures .

But the protocols will vanish if westerners start getting locked up for essentially telling what is most likely the truth.

The military are going to have to let this guy walk if their reasoning is sound.

The fact it made court is disgraceful and highlights the ""who you know"" mentality here.

Allegations unproved are also a serious thing.

But I very much doubt he would make this stuff up.

Lets hope he can prove it in court.

I have a sneaking suspicion his witnesses have long gone and no one will testify against the company in courts stacked with folks drooling for farang blood.

This case might just cause much more trouble than a drop in sales.

Lets see what the Thais do.

My money is on guilty and all hell breaking loose.

Spot on.

So, "Dr" Wanchai has a "questionable" PhD, Dr Pichai brought this to the attention of the University and they did nothing (I assume) except it cost "Dr" Wanchai the new position within the University, and Dr Natthapol got caught in the middle of it all. Is that right? Why wasn't Dr Wanchai sacked on the spot for fraud?

Because

"According to the commissioner, Phranakhon Rajabhat University is going to open a new learning course for master degree students and was designating Dr Wanchai to be head of the learning course.

However Dr Pichai argued his qualification, forcing the university to remove Dr Wanchai from the job."

I will paraphrase that in one word. : "Money."

... and "face" ...

Money Number 1

I'd have to disagree slightly and say "not always" ... "face" seems often to be the primary factor in most cases of anger/rage/abuse/beatings/murder here from what I've seen. And even more so in recent years.

So, "Dr" Wanchai has a "questionable" PhD, Dr Pichai brought this to the attention of the University and they did nothing (I assume) except it cost "Dr" Wanchai the new position within the University, and Dr Natthapol got caught in the middle of it all. Is that right? Why wasn't Dr Wanchai sacked on the spot for fraud?

Because

"According to the commissioner, Phranakhon Rajabhat University is going to open a new learning course for master degree students and was designating Dr Wanchai to be head of the learning course.

However Dr Pichai argued his qualification, forcing the university to remove Dr Wanchai from the job."

I will paraphrase that in one word. : "Money."

... and "face" ...

So, "Dr" Wanchai has a "questionable" PhD, Dr Pichai brought this to the attention of the University and they did nothing (I assume) except it cost "Dr" Wanchai the new position within the University, and Dr Natthapol got caught in the middle of it all. Is that right? Why wasn't Dr Wanchai sacked on the spot for fraud?

That whole cult should be disbanded and the leaders jailed.

You couldn't make this up. Except they do. Constantly. And people believe them.

Sickening. The murder. And now the excuses.

So the shield was to prevent missile attacks from the middle east? Right. Well the only nuclear armed power there is Israel. Or are we supposed to believe Iran who doesn't have missiles wants to declare a suicidal war on NATO for some unknown reason?

The missile shield as I've commented before is about giving the US first strike nuclear capability. Now if Russia had a missile shield wouldn't NATO be panicking for exactly the same reason, namely being able to nuke someone without fear of retaliation?

That aside both Chinese and Russians have developed new missiles that will go straight through it any way, so another colossal waste of money. Still good way to help instill fear into the ignorant and ramp up the war machine profits.

United States, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea (and allegedly) Saudi Arabia have them too.

That doesn't of course count the numerous countries where the US has "placed" their own nuclear missiles.

Understood. But I rarely see Western nations making these kinds of threats:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2566005/Russia-threatens-nuclear-attack-on-Poland-over-US-missile-shield-deal.html

Only 24 hours after the weapons agreement was signed Russia's deputy chief of staff warned Poland "is exposing itself to a strike 100 per cent".

General Anatoly Nogovitsyn said that any new US assets in Europe could come under Russian nuclear attack with his forces targeting "the allies of countries having nuclear weapons".

He told Russia's Interfax news agency: "By hosting these, Poland is making itself a target. This is 100 per cent certain. It becomes a target for attack. Such targets are destroyed as a first priority."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/6480227/Russia-simulates-nuclear-attack-on-Poland.html

That's simply down to selective/biased news reporting by western media outlets.

If you think that NATO/Europe/USA are NOT doing exactly the same things, you're sadly mistaken.

I do believe the original impetus for this was to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions. And their threats to use them against Israel. Not Europe. So probably yes, this is going overboard. But don't see the NATO countries backing off their deployment. Which they are entirely within their rights to do.

As far as comparing it to Cuba, that's misplaced. This is a missile shield. Not a nuclear missile. Apples and oranges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

In response to the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961, and the presence of American Jupiter ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev decided to agree to Cuba's request to place nuclear missiles in Cuba to deter future harassment of Cuba. An agreement was reached during a secret meeting between Khrushchev and Fidel Castro in July and construction on a number of missile launch facilities started later that summer.

So, the USSR placed nuclear missiles in Cuba because the USA had first placed them in Turkey and Italy (and other locations throughout Europe). Got it.

It's tit for tat as always, but neither the USA or Russia/USSR are innocents in any of this, both have pushed things to the limits (and beyond) and helped their "allies" to do the same.

And let's not forget, it's a missile system ... what's at the tip can be changed easily.

Yingluck gave farmers almost 50% more for rice than market prices.

only reason for this was VOTE BUYING.

Except those at the bottom of the food chain, the poorer rice farmers themselves, didn't get to see much (if any) of that increase.

Rental costs went up, fertilizer costs went up, transportation, millers, storage, all those costs went up, pretty much wiping out any benefit to the actual smaller rice farmers. Which was the whole point. Some people got (and continue to get) very very very rich, but it wasn't the rice farmers.

This is a big news story but as usual it doesn't appear on the front pages of most newspapers which somewhat exposes the stealthy intentions.

Hardly stealthy considering George W Bush informed them in 2001 they would be withdrawing from the ABM Treaty so that they could build exactly what has now been installed.

Wouldn't be Russia's invasion of Ukraine that had anything to do with this?

Quite possibly, although that was in 2014 and this ABM shield had been in the planning stages for decades before that.

http://www.ibtimes.com/pulse/boots-ground-only-places-world-united-states-hasnt-sent-troops-map-1698521

The interactive map along with dates and reasons is quite interesting to look over. It's easier to count the countries that haven't had US boots on the ground than those that have.

You can imagine the response if Russia did the same thing and put boots on the ground in countries nearer the "peaceloving" USA. Cuba for one. That went down well.

This is a big news story but as usual it doesn't appear on the front pages of most newspapers which somewhat exposes the stealthy intentions.

Hardly stealthy considering George W Bush informed them in 2001 they would be withdrawing from the ABM Treaty so that they could build exactly what has now been installed.

So instead of whinging, why doesn't Russia install its own shield?

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Both the USA and Russia are in breach of the Treaty so they might as well just rip it up.

&lt;deleted&gt; is wrong with people nowadays?

Finally! Something that makes sense, but long long overdue.

Better now than not at all. Let's be thankful for that

Hard to find anything much to be thankful for here over the past couple of years or so ... if they (whoever is in charge) listened to the "people" for a change, a lot of this cr@p would stop very, very quickly. Alternatively, simply allow the "people" to dispense street justice on those doing wrong as the cops don't seem to be too bothered to do much most of the time if it involves any work at all.

So it took 6 weeks or so for her to "explain" what happened? lol

Something smells fishy here, and it's not the food she eats (which is quite a lot from the looks of things).

Aye, after 6 weeks, i would like to know

- She got the contract already or she got the shaft?

According to the full article she got a 12 month contract and a 6 figure salary, so I suspect the whole thing wasn't a mistake at all but a cynical marketing/social media ploy.

With reference to your final query, whoever is doing that with her is a braver man than I ...

Finally! Something that makes sense, but long long overdue.

So it took 6 weeks or so for her to "explain" what happened? lol

Something smells fishy here, and it's not the food she eats (which is quite a lot from the looks of things).

I'm not taking a for or against position here (so as to stay legal) but this all looks very much like game, set and match to the generals, really. If people vote 'yes' the generals formalise their grip on power, if people vote 'no' then the generals stay in power while they write another constitution. What's the point of this referendum, and why is it being described as 'crucial', when it's really just a façade, going through the motions, as it were?

Perhaps we should coin a phrase 'as busy as a Thai constitution writer'?

One possible solution is a mass boycott of the referendum. But that would only work if everyone didn't vote, and even if they did "not" vote, I'm sure the result will still be 99.99% support for the Junta, much like the polls they make up.

Nothing to do with mobile phone, it was on top of the machine ... attendant probably spilt a little gas onto hot engine/exhaust. Unless it was a ghost ...

This guy obviously has some powerful friends...

Who have got him to launder a large amount of cash ... won't be seeing any of them in Court anytime soon.