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6 hours ago, rixalex said:
First point. News flash for you. Brexiteers already did win. You lost. Did it slip your mind?
Second point. "Long legal democratic process reuniting with the EU will begin". LOL. Pull the other one. The remain establishment has already shown that remaining in the EU comes long before concerns about democratic processes. They'll just keep slowly chipping away at it until they force on the nation their way.
Thirdly, re "Brexit thugs", it's funny how those who try to present themselves as being moral crusaders against bigotry and stereotyping, at the same time express themselves such bigoted and stereotypical views about those people who dare to not share their opinion. You really need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
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We remainers do look in the mirror and we see Jo Cox staring back at us.
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7 hours ago, billd766 said:
So why didn't you vote in 2016?
According to you the UK MEP's, all 73 of them were/were supporting UKIP.
Yet according to the UKIP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party
The UK Independence Party (UKIP /ˈjuːkɪp/) is a Eurosceptic and right-wing populist political party in the United Kingdom. It currently has three representatives in the House of Lords and sixteen Members of the European Parliament (MEPs), making it the third-largest UK party in the European Parliament. It has four Assembly Members (AMs) in the National Assembly for Wales and two members in the London Assembly.
16 from 73 is about 22%. So what did the other 57 MEP do?
I have been living in the Netherlands for more than the 15 years that would have allowed me to vote,I think I may be still on the electoral roll in Peterborough where I was working last time I voted.
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2 hours ago, dunroaming said:
Am I the only one who finds May's plea to the British public to back her Brexit deal a bit bizarre? The phone in programmes and the open letter today pleading with people to back her plan. She has said that the people have voted for Brexit and so she is not letting them have a say again so what does she think she will achieve by all this?
All I can think is that she wants people to lobby their MP's but how naïve is that. Maybe I am missing something here unless she is weighing up actually giving the people another say? After all she is famous for her U-turns.
She tried it at the last election "give me the majority to give you the Brexit that you voted for" or words to that effect,and the will of the people was NO!
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2 hours ago, sandyf said:
Poor excuse for making things up.
"Staying in the EU would mean no British Army, No RAF and No British Navy"
That may be the most stupid statement that has been posted in this thread.
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5 hours ago, billd766 said:I was only fooled once back in 1975 when I voted to join the common market.
Definitely not so the second time when I voted for Brexit.
I learned by experience.
You obviously haven't.
I voted to stay in 75,if I could have voted in the referendum in 16 I would have voted to stay.I didn't believe a word the Tory Ted Heath told me then and I didn't believe a word of the brexiteers this time.I think the EU is the best thing that ever happened to the European continent sure it makes mistakes the the throwing back of fish because the boats have reached the quotas is criminal,and what did the UK do they sent Ukippers as their representatives who just rode the gravy train.
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1 hour ago, nontabury said:
That’s where the problem started. They fooled the British electorate in 1975. Don’t take my word for it. Read up on how Heath, even lied to his own M.P’s,as confirmed this very week by one of the Conservative M.P’ who attended one of his briefing before the vote.
2016, thanks to the internet we were able to side step the establishment owed media and seek out the true facts. Unfortunately people like you are unable to question what they’ve been fed. I beleive the word is brainwashed.
Who has brainwashed me?
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1 hour ago, nontabury said:
The truth is,Britain has indeed been humiliated. By our lying Politicians, able supported by other remainers.
Shame on them that they fooled you once.
Shame on you that they fooled you twice.
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8 minutes ago, Grouse said:
I doubt the wills are worth the effort of writing; If they were they would not be voting Brexit!
My niece voted to leave and took my 95yo mums proxy vote with her,she is suitably ashamed and embarrassed and we will make sure she only gets her own vote in the upcoming election/referendum.
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1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said:
off topic comment:
re TM & non confidence within her party or in parliament
couple of hours ago the largest part in Norway filed/moved a non confidence motion re the current
conservative coalition government
(the government has been skating on thin ice since the summer holidays)
we'll see
the current government is very UK friendly re the future for UKers in Norway after Brexit
possible new government will not be unfriendly - but will not be ass licking
I would hazard a guess that there are more Norwegians in the UK than UKers in Norway so getting tough on them will not go down well.
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34 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:
right
but where are the 48? according to jrm and dd
I had to run out the room when I saw them,it was not a good look, combined age of 485 and DD looked ragged.I think they blamed the EU and remainers and something about Grouse.
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29 minutes ago, rixalex said:
Out of interest, regarding your calculations/speculations, all the young people who support the EU, do you foresee that their political opinions on this are going to remain completely static for their entire lives? That seems to be what you are counting on. It seems somewhat unlikely that a young person is not going to undergo some sort of a political shift as they get older, and that that shift might mean a change in stance on the EU, do you not think? Or is the EU just so darn awesome that there's a lifetime of loving to be had for us all?
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Did you see JRM and DD the other day with four even older white males in their press conference that they called to explain where the 48 letters were? I get what you mean "if you are not a communist at 18 there is something wrong with you and if you still a communist at 28 there is something wrong with you" but they won't have the EU to blame for all the ills that plague England! as they age.It's a hard one to call but I think remain will prevail.
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10 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:I tend to agree MB.
A good summation of the current situation, IMHO.
I would argue that any ennui experienced by the electorate is totally understandable, as the sh*t show of the last 2 years has been enough to induce this in any voter, with the last 6 months being particularly toxic, I'd say.
If the government are willing to say one thing and do another, and so blatantly & publicly as they have done of late, then the public will, justifiably, abstain from voting altogether at the next GE as both a protest and out of despair of the system - possibly in equal measure. It has never been clearer to most that one's vote really does count for nought! If it can be so easily ignored by the elite political class in power who are able to weasel their way out of abiding by the democratic will of the people, then what's the point of it all?
'- voting, well do it if makes you feel better, but if it meant anything, they wouldn't let us do it in the first place' - Mark Twain. He always did have a point.
This whole debacle could irrevocably damage the Tories, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the rise of a party like UKIP, but not necessarily them, that has actually been founded on and represents traditional conservative views. This whole labeling of the centre right - which is what most traditional Tory and UKIP voters are, in reality, as some kind of nationalist villainy just goes to show that we in the UK have not experienced REAL far-right politics or politicians in a position of power for a very long time. I don't really think far right parties are something the British abide anyway, as is shown by the woeful results of the BNP / NF every GE. However, with politics as fractured and the two main parties as weak as they currently stand, and while the electorate feels as cheated and disillusioned as they do, the time could be ripe for a more right-wing party to come to the fore to represent those voters who would like to vote for a real conservative party, which we don't have in the UK at the moment and haven't done for some years. If the betrayal of 17.4m people continues to play out as it is, then I'd imagine there will be either a mass abstention from voting in the next GE or there will be a rise in the anti-establishment movements that we saw with the likes of UKIP, who fomented the EU referendum in the first place through their rise in popularity and their threat to both Cons and Lab parties, a few years back.
The 17m represents roughly 25% of the population and they are dying off guesstimates up to 1m? already gone,by the time Brexit pans out in a couple of years another 2m gone that 17m will be down to say 13m doesn't look good for your longed for revolution,plus the useless Jeremy will be history and with the Tory party disintegrating and splitting the right vote it will be wide open for the left to fill the vacuum.Careful what you wish for.
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4 hours ago, bert bloggs said:
your life must be so exciting ????
I go to the beach for a couple of hours every day on my annual two month visit in jomtien,as I like to walk I use the malls to cool down just do a bit of window shopping and a troll round the supermarket and back out again.Do they have a Muji in the new terminal 21?
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6 hours ago, Kim J said:
I do not want to appear to be being facetious, but why would you go to a shopping centre on a daily basis? And what do you do whilst you are there?
When I stay in Bangkok I always stay between Asoke and Nana and do most of my eating in the food court in 21,if I was staying anywhere near the one in pattaya I would probably visit it at least once a day to eat and get a coffee.
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1 hour ago, transam said:
1939-1945....About the same, we moved on and prospered..
We prospered when we joined the EEC that became the EU.
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1 hour ago, Patriot1066 said:
The Genie is out of the bottle and growing I doubt they can control the following on the right its just too big and lots of ingrained hatred. Or the left with their violent poster children in Black ANTIFA, politics is polarised between brave true Brexeteers and sneaky unpatriotic remainers in the left.
we will prevail
See you on the barricades.I will be on the left.
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54 minutes ago, bomber said:
someone on here yesterday was looking forward to the weaker pound as it would start an export led recovery after brexit ???? export what we dont make anything anymore and will be making even less once the BIG 4 car makers relocate, we certainly cannot compete with china/india etc,but we will have the most skilled tatty pickers in the world tho????
The other elephant in the room is productivity! lowest in Europe more or less,not forgetting the average worker personified by David Davis once described as "lazy as f..k and thick as mince".
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5 hours ago, bristolboy said:
Did that person also make the point that in the UK you can denounce the government without fear whereas in North Korea such behaviour will get you executed. Maybe the UK government should align with North Korea the the way it treats critics?
And as for the conditions faced by a white European in Thailand, are you suggesting that a non-white European would be treated differently? Or is it your belief that only white people can be Europeans? Either way, congratulations on revealing your racism.
Duh!
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54 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:And Nigel Lawson has got his French one so he can continue to support Brexit from his lovely French chateau. Orwell was spot on about the proles and how malleable they are by the ruling class to further their own agendas. Sadly they march off to war proudly to be slaughtered in their millions under the flag when called to do so. Brexit is / will hurt them the most and still they keep cheering the empty phrases whilst casting a malevolent gaze at their fellow hard working neighbours who are just getting on with life. Nationalism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. I'm proud to be British , European and a citizen of the world. I don't get my kicks through chaos and half-baked internet memes propagated by a right wing agenda to strip away the welfare state won at great cost by my father's generation - Brexit is their chance to re-arrange the deckchairs on the titanic and make themselves hugely wealthy in the process. Some of the expats in Thailand has mistaken crawling as an act of loyalty rather than craven cap-doffing and misguided patriotism it is. There is no Brexit plan , just jump off a cliff and see where we go egged on by a small cadre of chinless wonders.
On the radio today somebody made the point that when a Thai or Moroccan moves to the UK they become immigrants but when a white European moves to Thailand he becomes an expat.explain that please.
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16 minutes ago, nontabury said:
Imports from the rest of the world would still have to pass the U.K's stringent rules. there would be no need to relax our controls. The same rules would also apply to imports from tne E.U.
The main difference,is that we could help underdeveloped countries such as those in Africa, sell their products to us at a lower rate,then those imposed by the Bureaucrats in Brussels.
A bonfire of the regulations we wos told leading up to the referendum,now it's about keeping all the hated EU regulations,now you say they are UK stringent rules! Who is telling porkies here.
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1 hour ago, baboon said:
They need to be a little careful, given their own 'Gibraltar', Ceuta. What is good for one is good for the other....
Once or if the UK exit the EU there will be nothing to stop the Spanish just walking in,Gib is not an island or they could just brick up the border.Ceuta and the other enclave are in Africa.
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3 minutes ago, vogie said:
Please explain how Farage was in a position to give another referendum, he wasn't. What part of that don't you understand.
Part of Cameron's reason to have the referendum was because of the fear that the Tory party was losing supporters to UKIP and it seems like it's starting to happen again.Nigel returns on his white charger to be head of UKIP again and rescue Brexit from the second referendum that is surely coming.
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4 minutes ago, vogie said:
No I cannot really see that, please explain how he will do it.
Because he will have family living in Germany.
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5 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:
Its not about the money. Young people have enjoyed themselves at my expense, as if they were on a student grant.
And foreign young people to boot,rubbing salt into your wounds.
UK voters should make final Brexit decision if talks with EU collapse: poll
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The deal with the DUP was made after the election wasn't it?