SamuiGrower

I too have read the research about capsaicin (active ingredient in hot peppers) in regards to cancer treatments. There is 20 years of research in this field. I’ve read the studies about inducing cellular apoptosis (cancer cell death) but they have all been ‘in vivo’, lab studies. Eating chili peppers would be a huge leap and non sequitir in the correlation of capsaicin and curing cancer. I don’t think that is an advisable alternative approach. The standard solvent used in RSO (Rick Simpson Oil) today is ethanol, though RS himself advocated for any solvent. The emphasis on the efficacy is whole plant, full spectrum and not the solvent. It IS a dirty, crude oil with cellulose, waxes, lipids and chlorophyll. There is a huge body of purely anecdotal evidence extolling the virtues of said oil in the curing of cancer. I would urge you to do more research, again, if you are seeking alternative treatments. RSO in suppositories bypasses “first pass metabolism” and knocks down some of the “high”. Lastly, if you are truly considering an alternative, look into Sativex, an FDA approved extract made from a 1:1 ratio of THC and CBD. Or, Epidiolex, the CBD only form. Neither is prescribed for cancer or tumors. Time is a critical factor for you, as you know. Procuring (seeds), growing and extracting FECO and eating chilis just doesn’t sound like practical use of your time. IMHO

There is no better way to correct a nutrient deficiency than foliar spraying but one should exercise a bit of caution before you do so. Magnesium deficiency occurs through leaching (soils) or through cation capture due to the soils negatively charged nature to hold and release Magnesium (and calcium), both having strong charges (+2). Most organic substrates have a large CEC (cation exchange rate) and can hold back both Ca and Mg showing a deficiency even though they are present. If you are seeing a magnesium deficiency in an indoor grow, it is likely in vegetative growth and you are growing in coco which has a propensity to hold back magnesium and calcium until you compensate for it (buffering). The most likely possibility is a nutrient schedule that is not balanced. This is of no surprise since most bottled nutrients sell you on “stacking” a regiment of 4, 5 and 6+ additives to achieve a well rounded nutrition program. One of the biggest additives in the market, as well as the biggest myth is the Cal-Mag additive - the cure all for all that ails your plant. (I would love to discuss this at a later date). Magnesium is also mobile in the plant and can be translocated from healthy leaves to deficient parts of the plant. If you see a Mg deficiency, it will be noticed in the lower leaves first. The bad news is, by the time you see it, the onset was much earlier on but you’re just seeing it now. It is correctable and a drench is more recommended to correct the issue than a foliar application. This will work in both Veg and Flower, where a foliar will only be good in veg. 1 gram of Magnesium Sulfate per liter of water will make a 100 ppm (E.C. 0.2) magnesium solution (approx.). This can be scaled up and down proportionately. I would start with half that: 50 ppm of Mg and then observe. I wouldn’t add more than a gram/liter as Mg can antagonize Ca. There is also 130 ppms (EC 0.26) of sulfur (S) which poses no problem since there is no known sulfur toxicity threshold in cannabis. It should also be noted that sulfur improves the organoleptic properties of cannabis (smell, aroma, taste, flavor, etc.) and is usually the primary ingredient (sulfates) in most bud finishers and ripeners on the market. If you feel you need an immediate correction, foliar applications act faster and are usually much stronger, as in 500 ppms and up is not unusual. You will need a surfactant, wetting agent, ‘sticker’ to make it more efficient. Use a soap like Bronner’s or anything mild (made with KOH and not NaOH) if you are not using an agricultural surfactant. Make sure to spray the underside of the leaf where it will do the most good. Just before lights out, not in the direct sun (if outdoors), etc. Magnesium Sulfate has long been a gardeners salvo when reusing soils or potting in depleted mediums. I hope this is helpful.

And yet, here you are….

Your right. Here’s my 5 minutes of research to backup my claims: How about…. Doctor accused of selling false hope to families Liz Szabo USA TODAY https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/15/stanislaw-burzynski-cancer-controversy/2994561/ Or Burzynski and his untested methods for curing cancer. He charges his clients hundreds of thousands of dollars for "Clinical Research" methods of curing cancer. Reviews: BurzynskiIMDbhttps://www.imdb.com › title › reviews Here’s another Fact Check-Antineoplastons not a proven ‘cancer cure’ and not an approved treatment Reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-antineoplaston-burzynski-cance-idUSL1N34O1TN There are more, shall I continue? Science has an amazing ability to shine light and disinfect quackery. I’m so glad I became a scientist. Thailand is a magnet for expat flat-earthers. ????

Are you affiliated? Did they help someone you know? I ask because it didn’t take long to find out they are selling snake oil and untested methods. Do the research. And yet you called out meathead on his suggested dosing. Incredible!

I was perhaps harsh in calling it “lab grown”, it’s not. It’s a cannabis derived extract in the Nabiximol family - legal in 15 countries since 2010. It’s a 1:1 THC:CBD oral spray and has been effective across an array of medical issues involving muscle spasticity. Dronabinol, Marinol, and Nabilone are “lab grown” analog synthetics of THC, not to be confused with your mention of street synthetic ‘spice’ that is wreaking havoc in ER rooms. These THC analogs are like ‘nature identicals’ and can not be discerned from ‘natural’. My issue is with big pharma and not the drugs. Only they can go to clinical trial and distribute their FDA approved cannabis while the rest of us suffer because it’s still illegal around the world with the exception of 3 countries, and the USA and UK aren’t one of them. UK Pharmaceuticals did the patent on Sativex by the way. Perhaps you wouldn’t take such umbrage to being quoted if you actually read what I wrote in regards to the FDA and AMA stating that CBD was safe regardless of it working or not working. But you actually suggested a dosage and said “that seems to work”. That’s what I have a problem with, but arguing with you, and trying to show the logic is like having a battle of wits with someone who is completely un-armed. To be clear, I was NOT the only poster that pointed out your quote as being wrong. And as far as “0 side effects”, you’re wrong (again). Dry mouth, diarrhea, reduced appetite, drowsiness and fatigue are common symptoms of CBD dosing not to mention they react with blood thinners and and some enzyme medications. Science, so inconvenient for you, huh?

Hold on a sec. There is only limited medical conjecture, implying CBD ‘may’, ‘possibly’, ‘could’, or ‘potentially’ be effective in a myriad of medical conditions. At present, CBD is not known for curing any cancers or tumors. The only studies that show any efficacy in reducing cancers and tumors are with gioblastomas (a type of brain tumor). It showed improvements in reducing aggressive brain tumors but cured no patients. The NIH (National Institute of Health) did a CBD inhaler trial that has shown to have limited the progression of glioblastomas. There is a clinical trial at present in the UK after a positive phase I. I’m following this closely as someone who has been in the CBD business for 11 years and a scientist for the past 40. The unfortunate thing (for me), is the trial is using a synthetic, ‘lab grown’ cannabinoid (Sativex). Big Pharma’s long reaching arm….. To suggest a dosage is irresponsible. “Seems to work quite well” as the above poster writes only solicits the question, “for what? Brain tumors?” Nine patients over seven years were given two 100 mg doses twice a day. At best, the results were hardly optimistic but positive enough to study CBD in an in vivo and in vitro lab studies. Those 9 patients represent the opus of clinical studies. Israel is doing the most work in recognizing ALL cannabinoids as medicine. They have no problem with considering psychotropic cannabinoids as medicine. All eyes are on them. The good news is the US FDA and American Medical Association says CBD does NO HARM if you wish to use it. The market is full of gummies, tinctures, inhalers, flower, roll-ons, beverages, topicals, etc.- you name it. Yes, I am aware of the 100’s of YouTube videos extolling the benefits of CBD. Most of those infomercials are junk science. There are many, many personal stories of how CBD has cured people. This is anecdotal evidence and does not mean it did not work (for them). If you are looking for alternative therapies try RSO, Rick Simpson Oil. The anecdotal evidence for curing cancers is too numerous to ignore. To be clear, CBD is binary: it either works (for you) or it doesn’t. It doesn’t work a little or sometimes - it does or it doesn’t, hard stop. The efficacy of CBD is vastly improved with the addition of THC, this is when it, medically, becomes most effective. CBD to THC ratios of 1:1 and 1:2 have shown to have positive effects in epilepsy, pain relief (a known anti-inflammatory), anxiety, PTSD, nausea. Unfortunately curing tumors and cancer is not amongst them. Whole plant, full spectrum (with all the cannabinoids, i.e, CBG, CBN, D9 & D8 THC, CBD) distillates show the most efficacy, unfortunately, due to the legalities (legislature), THC is never included and most CBD companies are hyping their products. The CBD product pushed around the world is T-free distillate - THC free. The oil has been stripped of most of the synergistic cannabinoids. I am in the CBD business and will be the first to say it is pushed as a panacea, ‘cures-all-that-ails-you’. The price for CBD mother oil, distillate, and isolate has plunged to 1/3 of what it used to be not because of supply and demand but because of its limited efficacy without the THC and synergistic cannabinoids that are illegal. If you think the THC market is a race to the bottom, one only needs to look at the CBD market as portent of what’s coming. The largest consumers now for CBD is the cosmetics, home health care and drink sectors. To the original poster of this thread: I understand your pain and need to help/heal a family member, having gone all the alternative paths with a family member myself. With CBD, you can do no harm, and the suggestion that it could help is enough to pursue it. Hope and faith is powerful and so is knowledge that is grounded in science. My thoughts and prayers go out to you.

Organic cannabis is produced by feeding cannabis N, P, K, Ca, Mg, Fe and trace elements/minerals from once living sources: manure, blood/bone meal, guano, composts, etc. Soluble trace elements and minerals through volcanic or fossilized rock like azomite or riverbed silt, etc. it should also be understood that many organic inputs, like guano, are very high in heavy metals. Cannabis is a hyperaccumulator plant and will uptake heavy metals and toxins from all substrates and soils. This is why hemp was used for many years as a soil remediation. The very idea that organic cannabis is “better”, is a complete fabrication as well as thinking there is a difference between ‘medical grade’ and recreational cannabis. (Can’t wait for all the bro-science disagreements! ????) It is simply a marketing term. I wonder how many pulmonologists are saying to smoke organic weed! These organic inputs rely on mineralization by microbes, bacteria and fungi to convert them into ions (cations and anions) which is the ONLY way a plant can absorb them. So, yes it’s true a plant can not tell the difference between organic and non-organic nutrients. Mineralization is a slow, inexact process that can take weeks to produce results. indoor, organic growing is certainly possible. So is organic hydroponic growing. Organic byproduct slurries are converted into ionic form through bacteria (lacto bacillus and photosynthetic bacteria) ”No Till” organic farming was designed for OUTDOOR, poor soil environments. Latest cannabis tek/sop, combines organic inputs (kelp, humic and Fulvic acid) with synthetic salts for optimization and benefits that result in increased secondary metabolites (THC, CBD). These are mostly chelators, vitamins, minerals and natural hormones. Salts, of which some are considered organic as well, such as rock phosphates and Potassium Sulfate, are already in an ionic form and are readily absorbed by the plant. In a commercial grow, one can ‘dial in’ the amount of Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, Calcium and Magnesium on a real time basis. This is the reason why salts are used is sustainable, economic grow models. As a scientist, I can tell you soil farming with natural/organic inputs taste better but the science can NOT explain why. The only difference is the organoleptic properties (taste, smell, aroma, flavor, etc.) It does NOT change terpene profiles. Nitrogen (N) the primary source of plant growth is provided through NO3 (Nitrate) and NH4 (ammonium). The former is an anion and the latter, an cation. The plant needs to expend energy to convert nitrate into NH4 - the useable form. Nitrifying bacteria in soil does the conversion if using manures, composts and ferments. Though NH4 is the useable form, plants prefer nitrate (NO3) over ammonium (NH4) if using salts/synthetics. Too much NH4 will diminish concentrations of THC and CBD as well as yield. If NH4 is kept between 10-30% of NO3 there will be no loss. Here in Thailand, where there is no regulating body (The Wild West), there is absolutely no guarantee to what you are buying, smoking or eating. I have discovered more lies than truths. As far as microscopic examination of flower, this will only show you airborne contamination, I.e dirt, insects, hair, etc. and is NOT a diagnostic tool for anything more. If one was foolish to spray salts on flowering cannabis you might be able to discern recrystallization. Unless you are the grower or know the growers ‘plant husbandry’ grow practices, it would be highly, highly doubtful you would find organic weed in dispensaries unless you are prone to believe what you are told. IMHO of course!

CBD oil or hemp oil? Huge difference and there are respective strains for each. Your post implies you want to harvest the seeds, so you mean HEMP OIL. The outfit you are looking for: https://www.cbdseedlabs.com if you are looking for CBD oil and you want to grow biomass for extraction: BaOx and Otto are decent cultivars. I have 40,000 legally imported Cherry Abacus 13% CBD seeds (I did the genetics on this in 2018), here in Thailand if you are interested. PM me if so.

CBD or THC?

Peroxide is a non-discriminating oxidizer at best and in low concentrations (1%) will only be effective in-the-moment, at the point of contact. It has no lasting effect after application. Raising pH on leaf surface is pretty decent IPM. Big ops we used Potassium Silicate (AgSil16H) for both IPM (raising pH to 11) and for the silica. Particularly advantageous at flip, from veg to flower. We experimented with ozone (O3) generators, ozonated water but they are not cost effective and can’t generate enough for any serious demand. Wood vinegar is a great source of natural amino acids. I would not use it for IPM. High pH is particularly good for molds, fungus, bacteria, PM but not great for insect predation. Then again, your options are near zero when plants are in flower.

I doubt any factory farm would use neem oil. OK for a grower with 1 or 2 small plants, totally useless for anyone with more than 5 plants. It's just not that effective. Just my opinion. Neem is the go to IPM in SE Asia, BUT nothing can be sprayed in flower so why argue?

Cannabis is known as a hyperaccumulator, it absorbs all heavy metals and toxins in soil. It is well known as a mitigant in soil mitigation for contaminated soils. As most of the flower with ‘fancy names’ in the dispensaries is indoor grown, I would not be too concerned about contaminants. I would not be worried about pesticide use as most knowledgeable growers would never use anything outside of neem oil. If health is your concern: you shouldn’t be inhaling anything combustible. Flushing removes nothing from within the plant. I agree, mold (B. Cinerera) is a bigger concern and much more prevalent.

Nice videos. Yes, purple strains, none are landrace. There are only about 6 landrace varieties in SE Asia and none look like that. Landrace strains are NOT desirable today. They produce a high leafy bud, earthy tasting and not visually appealing, not in this market at least. He’s growing Sativa dominant autoflowers. A pure Sativa (definition of landrace) would be 3 meters high in flower, even with topping. Look at the tight nodes. All hybrids. I like he shares with his bros! Like minded people perpetuating the goodness. Keeping it real.

That’s the dribble part. The actual landrace Thai Sativa is NOT purple. There are no equatorial landrace purple sativas. Hybrids, another story completely. So, saying “purple Thai weed is one of the oldest strains……” is utter nonsense. Anybody can call any strain, seed, phenotype, cultivar anything they want. In my dispensary in Colorado, our seed-to-sale online software, METRC only allowed you to modify 1 thing about the flower - The Name! You could call your flower anything you want. The purple characteristic is from anthocyanin, a type of polyphenol, characteristic of high altitude Indicas (Hindu Kush Landrace strain to be exact.) It’s part of the plants genetic disposition when there is a differential in temperature between day and night (technically called DIFF). This occurs in the final weeks of flowering, building bulk. Same deal with leaf color change in the fall, back in the states.

Props to you on great purple bud. I/we were talking about LANDRACE Thai Sativas: long finishers, hermaphroditism, seeders and pollinators, and bringing them indoors and affecting other strains. You said, “I beg to differ”, showed a dense purple bud. What does your hybrid strain have to do with true landrace Sativas? The misinformation is you implying you can grow landrace Sativas indoors and this is what it looks like. That’s my issue, not your bud, bro. just keeping it real and not pontificating or doing some self-promoting, aggrandizement. My knowledge is all science and fact based and completely free. (I’m a CEA scientist and this is my business) Would love to meet your master grower. p.s the background page on purple Thai sativas is completely fictional. Chocolate Thai is what came out of the landrace (which is really SE Asian and not unto Thailand alone. Most of the landrace varieties here are from Cambodia and Myanmar.) The landrace Thai weed here cures out chocolate brown, hence the name. Any Purple variety Thai phenos are all hybridized from Purple Urkle, Mendocino Purp and Grandaddy Purps. The word, “Thai” is just appropriated and used indiscriminately. There is no dispensary market for Thai landrace flower here.

“The only bigger lie than the name of the cultivar is the THC content.”

“it is thai genetics that was hunted. haven't done the backcheck yet as its fairly new.….Purple Thai” Exactly the kind of misinformation we are ALL trying to avoid. The initial thread was about “landrace Thai Sativa” seeds and we see purple bud against a backdrop of Indica plants that nobody has ever heard of or seen., and stated as ‘fairly new’ Really? The only people that need convincing on this is the grower and his/her customers. Landrace sativas rarely, if ever, express anthocyanin red/purple pigmentation. The grower begs to differ about the Thai Sativa landrace characteristics compared to the purple bud shown! The ‘back check’ leads directly to a seed bank.Spare me.

Obvious from the leaves, your plants are Indica hybrids

Thai Landrace Sativas, which constitute about 6 known varieties, are typical of most landrace strains: they take 15-16 weeks to flower/mature, are hugely prone to hermaphroditism, and will pollinate and/or seed before maturity. At best, the leaf to flower (calyx) ratio will be disappointing to most people accustomed to the hybrid genetics on the market today. You may have noticed, the side-of-the-road plants are all in flower right now. These strains are long finishers. You will experience only slightly better results growing them indoors. If you are growing them along side other genetics, be prepared for cross pollination and seedling.

GH pH up and pH down can readily be made with Potassium Hydroxide and Phosphoric acid respectively. Both can be easily purchased in Thailand. If there is any interest, I will post the mixing instructions/amounts.

Lots of misinformation here on the subject. Do not use vinegar for pH down and do not use baking soda for pH up. Acetic acid has very weak bonds and its effects are extremely temporary. Baking soda, while raising pH through bicarbonate anions (HCO3), will add excessive sodium (Na) to the amount of about 43% by weight. Sodium should be avoided when growing cannabis. Use citric acid and potassium hydroxide. Both are readily available. The stated pH of 5.8-6.2 is for hydro, soilless mediums NOT soil grows. True soil: 6.3-7.0 Many, many peat mixes are extremely acidic and a simple slurry test with a pH meter will tell you. Coco may be considered soilless but has a high CEC (Cation Exchange Capacity) - The ability to hold onto nutrients. Thai coco (there are exceptions) is high in Sodium (Na) and potassium,. Needs to be washed and buffered with calcium and magnesium (magnesium nitrate and calcium nitrate) before you plant in it or your plants will always look deficient. KNAAP sells a buffered and washed product that is excellent in 50 liter bags for about bht$610. They are in Surat Thani. With all that said, soil grows rarely need pH monitoring. A true soil grow is incredibly self regulating as long as you maintain adequate runoff. Usually, feed-water-water-feed or feed-water-feed-water, is a good regiment. I have known many, many successful soil growers that NEVER test or modify pH ever. Root exudates maintain pH in the root zone quite effectively.

The only bigger lie than the name of the cultivar is the THC content. No 2 plants, parts of the same plant, or successive grows will test the same % All labs (read the fine print) will have a huge swing in testing +/- 15% In the states, if you conform to periodic testing, you can use the lab test on the next 3-6 harvests (depending on state) In my dispensary in Denver, we called people THC shoppers who were looking for high % Fresh is best, regardless of THC. It’s the sum total of ALL the parts (organoleptic properties, terpenes, phenols, flavonoids). The question to ask when buying is, “what’s fresh?” With all that said, have people noticed most of the flower looks like <deleted>? All bud varieties looking exactly the same? -Brown! Heat, humidity and light (UV) degrades flower really fast here in Thailand.