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Jeff the Chef
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2 hours ago, coolcarer said:
Another one to bookmark An open antisemitic that is more that happy to preach hate speech. Shameful
If you consider that hate speech you need to get a sense of humour.
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45 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:
The Commissioner is useless at his job and he would say that wouldn't he. The whole country is ashamed at the state of policing In the UK, I would hardly describe Rowley as an Elliot Ness type officer more of an Elliot Mess!
The only reason you have the hump with whoever is in charge of Policing is because you cannot understand the way people feel about the carnage being committed in Gaza and elsewhere.
It's not about what happened on the 7/10, it's about what has happened after, modern comms are now getting out to a wider audience than before and Israel cannot control what the general population around the world sees.
Yes, I now the atrocities of 7/10by Hamas were despicable for the people concerned and yes Israel has a right to defend themselves but the whole World are not on the side of Israel, personally I've seen the same problems year after year, now there must be a different approach to this problem.
What the answer is I have no idea, greater minds than ours will eventually sort it out peacefully but this cannot continue as it is.
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1 hour ago, Wobblybob said:
But he wasn't talking about this incident which is what this thread is about!
The Met commissioner stressed he was not talking about the latest incident with Falter. He said: “I’m not going to answer that in relation to the Gideon Falter incident … just to be crystal clear.
First 2 paragraphs:
The commissioner of the Metropolitan police has praised the “professional” conduct of the sergeant who stopped an antisemitism campaigner at a pro-Palestinian march and warned that officers at other protests had been “set up” by activists using “fakery” to undermine the force.
In an interview with the Guardian, Mark Rowley said the sergeant involved in the incident with Gideon Falter would not be disciplined and vigorously defended the Met’s handling of the six months of protests since the 7 October attacks on Israel.
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Met police chief praises ‘professional’ conduct of officer in antisemitism row
Exclusive: Mark Rowley says sergeant will not be disciplined and warns of ‘fakery’ by activists at other protestsThe commissioner of the Metropolitan police has praised the “professional” conduct of the sergeant who stopped an antisemitism campaigner at a pro-Palestinian march and warned that officers at other protests had been “set up” by activists using “fakery” to undermine the force.
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An independent panel released its much-awaited report on Monday about the UN relief agency for Palestine refugees (UNRWA), providing 50 recommendations and noting that Israeli authorities have yet to provide proof of their claims that UN staff are involved with terrorist organisations.
“Israel made public claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organisations. However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this,” according to the 54-page final report, Independent review of mechanisms and procedures to ensure adherence by UNRWA to the humanitarian principle of neutrality.
The UN Secretary-General, who received the final report at the weekend, had appointed the independent review group days after Israel announced the allegations against UNRWA, which employees 30,000 people and serves 5.9 million Palestine refugees in the West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and war-torn Gaza.
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13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
then preceded to open his Jewish mouth, and tried eating his Jewish foot.
Vile disgusting statement.
10 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:He literally doesn't know what he is writing.🥴
I know exactly what I am writing, thankyou.
Antisemitism, as such, is not a criminal offence. The law does not punish people for holding thoughts or beliefs, however unpleasant these may be. The same applies to Holocaust denial and criticism of Israel.
It is only when people start to act on those thoughts or beliefs that the law steps in. It punishes actions rather than attitudes.
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23 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:
It totally defies all logic that some people ignore the hate language coming from the Hamas supporters and chose to focus all their energy on one solitary Jew intent on crossing the road, is now crossing the road deemed provocative now, doesn't the fault lie with the hate filled demonstrators and if so should these less than peaceful demonstrations be allowed to take place.
There is no wonder why there is never any British Flags at these demonstrations only terrorist flags with the usual hate filled chants.
But the piste de resistance is the Met Police had to apologise for their earlier apology.🥴
Met Police chief Sir Mark Rowley will meet the home secretary and policing minister this week to discuss antisemitism, Sky News understands.
It comes after an antisemitism campaigner was threatened with arrest yards away from a pro-Palestine protest where officers described him as "openly Jewish" and said his presence was "antagonising demonstrators".
The force apologised but then had to apologise for their apology after suggesting opponents of pro-Palestinian marches "must know that their presence is provocative".
Sadly this post is only regurgitating old news, at the end of the link is this statement: Gideon Falter, chief executive of the Campaign Against Antisemitism and the man at the heart of this debate, will be speaking to Sky News at around 9.20am today.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNC3-KWafPs&t=53s&ab_channel=SkyNews
Shame that Gideon Falter, chief executive of the Campaign Against Antisemitism and the man at the heart of this debate, then preceded to open his Jewish mouth, and tried eating his Jewish foot.
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2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:
Hardly surprising to see such a comment from a confirmed antisemite such as yourself; someone that has expressed his hatred for Israelis with comments like “they are no better than the Nazis of WW2”
I still have the screenshots of some of your appalling comments Jeff, just in case you go into denial mode ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Especially for you:
Is antisemitism a crime?
Antisemitism, as such, is not a criminal offence. The law does not punish people for holding thoughts or beliefs, however unpleasant these may be. The same applies to Holocaust denial and criticism of Israel.
It is only when people start to act on those thoughts or beliefs that the law steps in. It punishes actions rather than attitudes.
But the dividing line is not always clear and suspects may be allowed some leeway. A lot may depend on how prosecutors choose to exercise the discretion that the law gives them.
Some of the crimes committed by antisemites — such as assault — may be committed by anybody and for any reason. But if criminals are motivated by hatred of Jews, they may be be punished more severely than other offenders. This guide looks at some of the charges that may be brought against people who commit antisemitic acts.
But we begin with a warning. Many crimes are never investigated by the police. Many of the crimes that the police investigate never get as far as a prosecution. Many prosecutions collapse without anyone being convicted. And many convicted offenders receive sentences that their victims regard as lenient. Even if you have been the victim of an offence listed in this guide, you may feel that justice has not been done in your case. Campaign Against Antisemitism helps victims and witnesses of antisemitic incidents to secure justice.
One more warning: the law is very complicated and this guide has tried to make it easier to understand. In simplifying it, we have left out refinements and possible defences that may make all the difference in an individual case. We have shown you where to look for more information but you would be wise not to proceed without proper legal advice from a solicitor or barrister.
https://antisemitism.org/law/introduction/#is-antisemitism-a-crime
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Just now, Nick Carter icp said:
There have been arrests at these marches for showing support for terrorists groups .
Yeah, I know.
Arrests at pro-Palestine protests in London attended by millions of people last year resulted in just 36 charges – despite attempts by senior politicians to label them as “mass extremism” and “openly criminal”.
The low number of actual arrests and prosecutions undermines the narrative, pushed by senior Tory leaders, that the protests are a danger to public safety. Home secretary James Cleverly said last week that the organisers possessed “real evil intent”, and his predecessor Suella Braverman today repeated her frequent calls for the weekly marches to be banned.
But despite the vast numbers of police deployed around the protests at a cost of £22m, officers appear only to have been able to find a handful of instances of wrongdoing. A number of charges were brought under the new Public Order Act while seven people were charged with assault and three with possession of a weapon.
Cleverly told the Jewish News last week that the police were now making “significant arrests” for antisemitic hate crimes at the marches.
Yet data published by Operation Brocks, which the Met calls its “response to the ongoing conflict in Israel and Gaza and its impact on London”, reveals that between October and the end of December, there were only 153 arrests – with the majority of people, 117, being released without charge.
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7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:
It is you that is having a laugh, you may think that it normal to carry Swastikas and terrorists flags of every denomination but it isn't. The police leadership is totally abysmal, they have been transformed from police to clowns with their red noses and their bobbie helmets painted in LGBTRZ colours. The police have lost all trust and respect from this once proud nation. Their capabilities to police has been lost by losers like Mark Roland and his predecessor, the problem is the establishment has more of these useless commissioners waiting in the wings.
If you had any respect for the country you would see this but obviously you don't.
Nice rant, nothing to do with my post though, is it?
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Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:
Hardly surprising to see such a comment from a confirmed antisemite such as yourself; someone that has expressed his hatred for Israelis with comments like “they are no better than the Nazis of WW2”
I still have the screenshots of some of your appalling comments Jeff, just in case you go into denial mode ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, great, now back on topic, openly Jewish man, a charlatan, lucky not to be arrested, maybe next march on Saturday 27th April 2024, if he dares to show his face.
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3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:
If he has an agenda, and he may well have the Met Police have fallen for it hook line and sinker, it has shown the polices discrimination towards the Jewish communities and the call for the resignation of Mark Roland is almost inevitable now, so well done Mr Falter, and now there is a call to cancel these marches. A big win for democracy and a loss for the terrorists amongst our midst.
If he has an agenda, you're having a laugh, Mark Rowland resigning over this, no chance, pro-Palestinian marches being cancelled, the UK government wouldn't dare there would be uproar on the streets, terrorists on these marches, so funny, less arrests over the 6 months of this than at a 3rd division football match.
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1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:
Falter should have arrested
Of course he should..... he's a Jew. Why don't you ever mention these hate filled antisemitic mobs that scream in their thousands for the destruction of Israel! Your logic and priorities leave a lot to be desired!
Yes, he is a Jew clearly, a Jew with an agenda that was great one day but then it all fell apart.
Yes, loads of Jewish people on these marches from day one, no there isn't says Falter, then it's toy's out of the pram time, man's a charlatan who got found wanting on all counts.
From the river to the sea, everyone should be free.
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4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:
How long did it take you to think that one up, links to your post please!
Falter should have arrested, man has no shame, liar, liar pants on fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNC3-KWafPs&t=53s&ab_channel=SkyNews
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I find it hard to believe the pro-israel mob are trying to twist this into a win for your cause, major fail the UK public are laughing at you big time.
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Just now, Bkk Brian said:
So what if they accuse Israel of Genocide? What has that got to do with the Jews in London getting threatened and discriminated against?
I've been searching high and low for any normal Jews in London who feel threatened or discriminated against, to no avail.
So I've concluded it is only the Israeli propagandists who have a problem, whilst they are pushing the Israeli stories, bit of bad luck their having as the vast majority don't agree with them.
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In the Sky News footage, the activist insisted he was only trying to cross the road down which the demonstration was passing, but this is disputed by an officer in the new footage, who said Mr Falter had deliberately walked head-on into the crowd and accused him of being "disingenuous" and seeking to "antagonise" the marchers.
Sky News has decided not to identify the officer.
Extended exchange
As emotions continue to run high over the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza, the Sky News footage shows a Met police sergeant explaining to Mr Falter that it was a "big demonstration" and barring his way to the march.
When Mr Falter asked if it was because he is Jewish, the officer nods and says "unfortunately".
The officer said: "Unfortunately, sir you took it upon yourself to go from the pavement right into the middle of a pro-Palestinian march, which is why I asked you to go away."
He added: "You are looking to try and antagonise this."
"So I can already see what your mindset is, sir."
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3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
It does actually make you a Zionist .
A Zionist is a person who believes that Jews should have their own Country on the land in question and that is what you opine .
Whatever else you believe in is besides the point , whether you are in favour of settlements or land expansion is besides the point and a different topic .
You believe in a Jewish homeland in Israel , which makes you a Zionist .
So glad to know what I believe.
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3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:
Yeah, the next time Israelis storm the border into Gaza, rape and murder civilians, and carry their mutilated bodies back to Israel for a big street party, I'll be with you on that. Until that time, I'll stay on the side of the only country in the region that supports human rights and democratic principles. And allows 2 million Arabs as citizens as well. Ask yourself this- would you rather be an Arab citizen in Israel, or a Jewish citizen in (insert Arab country here)? That may help you decide on the morality of the situation.
Of course, the reality is that the 22 Arab nations of the world largely refuse to grant citizenship to Palestinians for a few reasons. First, the Palestinians are troublemakers and those governments don't want what happened in Jordan to happen within their borders. Second, keeping the Palestinians stateless gives the Arab world a convenient weapon to use against Israel. Instead, they keep the Palestinians, even the ones in refugee camps within Arab nations, stateless and in poverty. It is a craven and cruel political decision that makes them look truly evil.
"Supporting Palestinians"? Please. What kind of 'support' is denying civil and legal rights to people born in your country, whose parents were also born there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah this is about should UNRWA be shut-down not what happened on the 7/10.
The one and only reason Israel wants rid of UNRWA is the "right of return" which is in their charter through the UN, anything else is waffle and propaganda by Israel.
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9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
OK, so you give the same answer to all questions asked .
If you did that in an exam, you wouldn't pass the exam .
BTW , I don't want you to be anything , but a Zionist is a person who opines that Jews should have a homeland in Israel and you agree with that , which does make you a Zionist .
Its rather odd that you are a Zionist , but you support groups who oppose Zionism and you do not support Zionist groups .
"Jews should have a homeland in Israel, but I support groups that oppose Jews having a homeland in Israel*
That is like supporting Barcelona and wanting Real Madrid to beat Barcelona
I never asked you a question.
I'm not taking an exam.
I have no problem with Israel being a country, which does not necessarily make me a Zionist, only someone who thinks that Israel should have a country and keep their noses out of other peoples countries.
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41 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
Yes, I did read that previously and I replied asking a new different question , you replied to my new different question by giving the same answer to the previous question .
(P.S. There is no need to keep reposting the discussion from the past few hours , as I am able to remember the discussion and I don't need to be reminded what was said previously , like, I am not an idiot, thanks)
New question, same answer, any variations, same answer.
As for the P.S., your opinion is valid but not necessarily the same as mine on all counts.
opinion,
'Openly Jewish' man threatened with arrest by Police near pro-Palestine march
in World News
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No, definitely not, I've been trying to buy a bottle of Harvey's Bristol Cream for ages, never seen any over here, has anybody?