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Of course you're the one posting nonsense, I have clearly shown that the data of the relevant authorities in the UK and the US collecting car fires does not distinguish EV and petrol car fires. The data is only going to be useful in the distant future, when that distinction has been made everywhere and good data is collected. Therefore studies purporting to show how EVs have less fire risk than ICEs are using inaccurate data, and are most likely funded by government or interest groups that have a vested interest in pushing EVs. Besides the notion that one can make this comparison now is already nonsensical, since the average EV car is newer by many years than the average ICE car. This obviously affects the fire statistics.

Hi Encore, I thought that might be the case. Have long wanted to see Cambodia. Those Bek Sloy videos really do it for me.

Nazi Germany is the same thing as the Muslim community? What?

Oh really? Let's have a look at the United States then. "Specific numbers on EV fires are challenging to pin down. The National Fire Incident Reporting System, or NFIRS, used by fire departments, hasn't historically separated gasoline car fires from those involving electrified vehicles. " https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lithium-ion-battery-fires-electric-cars-bikes-scooters-firefighters/ So looks like it was fair to say that othercountries still do not have accurate data which separates EV fires and petrol car fires, doesn't it JB? Wrong again, tssssk.

I can assure you I won't be a comrade of someone who will vote for an incompetent like Kamala Harris.

Lol, so you're think you're right by numbers? What do you think this is Nazi Germany? There too people were right to defame entire religions like you did in your first post then, because they were the majority? t was an absolute disgrace, and that other post was right to tell you so.

It's pretty sad when people can't make factual statements anymore without being accused of being racists. For no reason other than disagreement on politics.

The North Korean leader wrote Trump hand written love letters. It would seem he not only admired Trump but had real affection for him after meeting him. You know what would happen if he met Kamala Harris? He'd excuse himself and go watch a movie as soon as possible while asking if somebody has Trump's phone number.

He does not seem obsessed with race to me. His comments on this thread were in no way racist. Why are you playing the race card when it's totally inappropriate?

No, again, it's not that the UK "hasn't yet collected data". It has collected data on car fires, but many of the authorities do not distinguish between EV and petrol car fires. Since the UK is a highly develolped country it is fair to say that most countries around the world will have the same issue, ie of not distinguishing between EV fires and petrol car fires. Therefore studies that purport to claim that EV car fires are less likely are not reliable since they do not use accurate data. The BBC article is not spurious, it is very clear and shows the issue with recording car fires.

EV fires are indeed a concern. To such an extent that a major city will not allow EV owners to park their cars in underground garages now. "South Korea’s most populous city is set to introduce new guidelines for electric vehicle (EV) owners following highly-publicised fires in recent weeks. Korea JoongAng Daily reports the Seoul Metropolitan Government has advised EV drivers to not use underground car parks if their batteries are holding more than 90 per cent charge. It adds there will be a pilot trial of limiting rapid chargers to 80 per cent if they’re in a public space, and there are reportedly plans to expand this to private operators." https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/fully-charged-seoul-wont-let-you-park-your-ev-underground So not only will be the parking options for EV drivers be limited, the concern about fires has also affected the availability of chargers, so the charging infrastructure. A serious concern indeed.

You seem to have issues understanding sentences sometimes. Here is a quote from that article: He says Essex fire service has started recording all lithium battery fires by type so that it can better understand the issues they pose and to help plan for the future. When the BBC raised the issue of fire services not recording EV fires specifically, a Home Office spokesperson said: "We are reviewing the incident reporting system and considering the collection of data on fires involving lithium-ion batteries, electric vehicles, e-scooters and e-bikes." What exactly this means for fire services is unclear, however - not least because of the paucity of available data. In 2022-23 fire services across England recorded more than 19,000 vehicle fires in total, of which 11,252 started accidentally. When the BBC asked every fire service in the UK how many EV fires they had dealt with in the past three years, most could not provide a reliable answer because they do not distinguish them from other types of vehicle fires. Instead, some fire services, such as those in Norfolk, Essex, Surrey, Derbyshire and Kent, ran text searches for any reference to the word "electric" in their vehicle fire records. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66866327 So the UK does compile statistics on car fires, and some authorities have begun to distinguish between EV and petrol car fires, however, most authorities still do not. Since the UK is a developed country this will be the case in most other countries. I have seen the studies you refer to which claim that EV cars have less fires than petrol cars, but since we can see above that the data collecting car fires is not reliable, those studies equally are not reliable.

Your first post was an absolute disgrace. It was racist and you defamed an entire religion. Hiding behind a BBC link won't change the fact that you talked nonsense.

It is true, indeed when an EV catches fire it can be much more serious as fire fighters have it much harder to extinguish the fire as the battery is protected in the EV. Plus there's the battery chemistry itself. "The batteries - if they are the source of the fire - are often hard to reach, he says, and EV fires can create directional jet flames and vapour cloud explosions. EV fires also create a variety of toxic chemicals both in the air and in the water run-off if firefighters use hoses to keep the flames in check. "Our preferred approach is to let them burn themselves out," says Mr Maher. Not all recovery companies will take damaged cars away, says Mr Maher, either because they are concerned about handling a burned EV or because they do not have the right recovery vehicles (the fire service recommends against towing EVs in case the turning of the wheels recharges the batteries ). Electric cars are also known to reignite "up to two or three weeks after the initial fire", says Mr Maher, meaning they have to be "quarantined" away from other vehicles even after the fire appears to have been put out. "Dealing with a petrol or diesel car fire would normally take about 30 minutes," he says. "With an EV fire we're looking at four or five hours or longer, if we've used water. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66866327 However, the statement that fires with EV cars are less likely may not be true. The article above also shows the problem in recoding car fires statistically, since almost no local authority distinguishes between EV and petrol cars, they record just "car fires". So the true extent of the issue with EV car fires is not really known, and the studies saying fires with EV cars are less likely are therefore not using appropriate data. This will change as the regional and state authorities will start to distinguish between EV and petrol car fires.

I quite agree, in a city such as Chiang Mai an EV with a lower range can make sense for some people. But what is your view on the battery fires that keep happening with electric cars that have put people off of EVs in South Korea?

I saw that as well, and when two black guys expressed their dislike for Kamala Harris during an interview they were literally insulted by the highly offended TV journalist. Lol.

South Koreans hit the brakes on EVs after battery fires Several electric vehicle fires in South Korea have dented sales as buyers worry about potential battery hazards. A series of headline-grabbing car fires in South Korea are driving distrust of electric vehicles (EVs), in what local media have dubbed "EV-phobia." South Korean officials met last week to discuss vehicle safety, and called on all car manufacturers to increase transparency and name their battery suppliers. On August 1, a Mercedes-Benz EV caught fire in the underground parking lot of an apartment complex in the city of Incheon. It took firefighters more than eight hours to extinguish the blaze. Twenty-three people required hospital treatment, around 140 vehicles were damaged, and 1,600 homes were affected by electricity and water outages for a week. In separate incident several days later, a Kia EV6 burned out in a parking tower in South Chungcheong Province, with the blaze lasting more than 90 minutes before it could be brought under control. The cause of both fires is believed to have been the vehicles' batteries. According to South Korea's National Fire Agency, there were 72 EV-related fires in 2023, up from 24 in 2021. Of the 130 incidents reported in the last three years, 68 vehicles caught fire while their engines were running, 36 while parked and 26 as they were being charged. Chinese-made batteries in focus Much of the public concern is focused on the Chinese-made batteries that many auto manufacturers now use in their vehicles. The Mercedes-Benz that caught fire in Incheon was fitted with a battery made by Farasis Energy, a little-known Chinese company. "These are not isolated cases as there have been a series of similar fires in electric vehicles in recent months," said Song Young-chae, a South Korean professor of environmental engineering who lives in Seoul. "After seeing the Incheon fire on television, I think people are worried and more reluctant than ever to buy an electric vehicle," he told DW. Consumers remain wary Despite the price cuts, the newspaper reported that the number of newly registered EVs in South Korea fell 13.4% in the seven months from January from the same period one year earlier. Lee Eun-koo, who works for an NGO in Seoul, said she has been trying to convince her sister not to go ahead with plans to purchase an EV. "She seems keen to go ahead because they are better for the environment, but I have to ask how safe they are because of these fires," she told DW. "I am hoping I can talk her out of it." Park Jung-won, a professor of international Law at Dankook University, is similarly reluctant to trade in his conventional car for an EV. https://www.dw.com/en/south-koreans-hit-the-brakes-on-evs-after-battery-fires/a-69978616#:~:text=A series of headline-grabbing,and name their battery suppliers. So in South Korea too, registrations for EVs are down, and unlike what people on here claim, it's not about price, there are clearly more fundamental reasons, to do with range and car safety which put most people off of buying an EV.

And Kamala of course, the faces she pulls could fill a whole Youtube vide.

Absolute rubbish. Your pal KhunLA keeps reposting ads for brandnew EVs that are cheaper than second hand petrol cars but they can't give them away. There are no takers. For the simple reason that many have understood that EVs lack the proper infrastructure to charge them still, so range continues to be an issue with EVs. So even when they're sold at ludicrously low prices the uptake for EVs is in decline. Because most people don't want them.

At the time Trump defused a very dangerous situation. After his visit North Korea markedly reduced its threatening activities. Once Biden and Harris came into power, North Korea resumed its misbehavouir. The thing about Trump is that when it comes to real issues people know he means what he says. That is why Kamala had to give up her demands to change the debate rules last minute, because ABC and Harrisworld understood, if they don't give up the main attraction will walk away. Trump knows exactly what he's doing, he is respected by world leaders. No world leaders could ever respect a bumbling cackler like Kamala Harris.

No, your political bias is showing. Otherwise you would recognise that Harris has not given any meaningful interview by herself despite being a candidate for the presidency. Whereas Trump has gone on several lengthy face to face interviews by himself. Your comparison with Trump is therefore a very poor one.

I think you must be joking, to try and discredit the leading financial institution in the world with some childish wiki page.

Yes, go worship a woman who in front of rolling cameras celebrates America's lasting alliance with the Republic of North Korea. Stupidity is her specialty