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Now this is a textbook example about one of many Zio arguing strategies: If you don`t like the question as answering it would reveal how wrong your opinion is, just don`t answer. Ridicule the question and confuse the asking person by applying a totally distorted logic. Here is the question And here the Zio answer Slippery as an eel, yet revealing his cowardice unable to admit that the IDF are war criminals or that he agrees with their actions as he sees Palestinians as lesser people with no right to exist.

I apologize for unknowingly breaking forum rules and to any member, that might have felt insulted by me. And I rephrase: To all the uncritical supporters of Israel: All you do is simply denying "not true" or "I don`t believe that" without any proof to debunk accusations based on sources, or just keeping silent (I am still waiting for comments on that IDF soldier who raped the Palestinian detainee and was celebrated as a hero on a TV show) citing ridiculous proofs like a single whistle blower or arguing on questionable grounds by presupposing false claims (Gaza is occupied, there is no legal self-defense on occupied grounds by the occupier) (if you apply a complete blockade any casualty resulting from it, any starvation and famine is your fault, no matter what Hamas does or does not. Period!) or insulting and branding your opponents (get that into your heads: a person criticizing the intentional targeting of children and murdering unarmed civilians is NOT a terrorist supporter.) or simply call them anti-semite. Israel is done! https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/01/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-worlds-top-scholars-on-the-say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide 20.000 murdered children. 50.000 slaughtered Palestinians. Done by the army of a democratic state ordered by a government elected by Israelis less than 3 years ago. Meaning most Israelis support that. Opposing the argument everybody in Gaza is Hamas, as they voted for them - that was 20 years ago! Indiscriminate bombing of almost every civilian building Then starvation by kicking out the UN and their 400 food delivery sites and opening only 4 sites

https://imemc.org/article/analysis-42-knees-in-one-day-israeli-snipers-open-up-about-shooting-gaza-protesters/ So much for everything started October 7. Israel even sterilized Jews from Ethiopia as they did not want too many black jews. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

I don`t understand your post. You wrote Hamas would never let anyone flood the place and I doubted that. The famine started a few months ago after Israel completely blocked Gaza and took the food delivery out of the hand of the UN with their 400 delivery sites and only allowed the GHF do the job, which has only 4 delivery sites. That is when starvation started same as the intentional shooting of hungry Gazans at the delivery sites. That is depraved. No need to thank me, but if you would have read my post with attention you would have noticed that I mentioned the year 2006. My post was a proof, thanks for backing it, that Israel has for long been putting Gaza on a diet, meaning making their lives as miserable as possible. Now that is depraved and cynical. Who gives them the right to restrict them from farming, fishing, keeping livestock? For decades. And restrict food to later say, we were worried they don`t eat enough. Ridiculous. Same as the IDF guy was asked, why they had the imprisoned Palestinians take off their clothes he answered, well this is a hot country, we wanted them to feel comfortable. I hope all those "we gave them Gaza and instead of turning it into a Riviera they decided to become terrorists." guys read that. And shooting all those kids at the border, remember the Israeli sniper boasting about 42 children`s kneecaps he shot in one day, was to prevent them from doing too much sports, right?

Oh really, I did not know that. To ease your mind I will use the term "genocide" from now on. Be careful with such statements. Ever heard the term "Jewish question"? Europe wanted to get rid of the Jews since the 19th century, leading to the foundation of Zionism. The Palestinians were more or less the only people welcoming Jews, even letting them live in their houses. Until they found out their true intentions, but it was too late. I guess both people would not win a popularity contest. However, Palestinians were forcefully removed from their homes, where they had been living for centuries and as they never received any help from the rest of the world to get back what was rightfully theirs, in their desperation they turned into terrorists in the last century. Jews on the other side somehow were always chased, rejected, murdered and kicked out, like for Millennia. At least that's what they say about themselves. Israel grabs women, children and men, incarcerates and brutalizes them including rape. Only they call it prisoners not hostages, to make it sound legal. And when one Palestinian gets raped so brutally that he almost dies in hospital, the Israeli Media treats the rapist like a hero. inviting him to TV shows for a meet and great with fans And in the Knesset they discuss if raping of detainees is ok or not, like every democratic barbarian government should do.

I asked myself pretty much since the beginning of 2024, how long will the west need to see the truth, how many innocent civilians must be slaughtered before my country grows a conscious. Now I got my answer: almost 2 years Shameful. My country. World champion in looking the other way.

@Yagoda Look, I have no personal issues with you. My moral compass simply tells me that justice should be applied in the same way to every person. That`s all. You clearly believe in the "right of the might". And of course that your people, US or Israelis, somehow stand above the law. That is ok, as long as one is on the stronger side. The only problem is that once you accept this kind of "jurisdiction" in your society, the day will come, when you are on the weaker side. And make no mistake, there will always be people mightier than you. Then it will be too late.

You mean McCloy, the high commissioner to Germany Gen. Clay was the US administrator in Germany. You read it, despite your notion that many normal folks will read it. You speak of yourself using "we". Side effects of brain wash? And as usual not a single counter argument. Just allegations and insults. And about my country. They are aside from the US, the last ones sending weapons to war criminals, while the majority of their people just doesn`t care. They deserve to go down.

the International Humanitarian Law (IHL), the international laws that regulate armed conflicts, aiming to limit suffering by protecting individuals and restricting warfare methods states: "the presence of human shields does not render a military target immune from attack. However, the attacking party still has the obligation to take all feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm and ensure attacks are proportionate." The IDF has never taken any precautions when they bombed civilian infrastructure and has deliberately targeted and murdered women and children, doctors, aid workers and journalists. The Israeli prime minister is a war criminal. You are defending terrorists while they are committing mass murder. Yes, Jews were driven out of their ancestral homeland in waves, most notably after the destruction of the First Temple by the Babylonians in 586 BCE and the subsequent destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70 CE, leading to the creation of the Jewish Diaspora. They settled elsewhere, mixed with the locals and then 2000 years later some people who claim to be Jewish by religion but do not look a bit like the original Jews somehow think they have a claim to that land. Due to which law? Even your own religion contradicts that: In the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible, God promises the land of Israel to Abraham, the first Jew, and then reaffirms the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac and grandson Jacob. But later God exiled the people because they failed to follow instructions based on the support given in the readings Hosea, Micah, and Isaiah. God told the people to refrain from sin. Nonetheless, the people began to partake in sinful actions. Once God realized what had happened, God punished the people by exiling them. Additionally, God himself stated that he punished them because of their sinful actions, therefore proving that the people were sent to exile because they failed to be faithful. You`ve surely heard that before: God gives God takes away. Its in your bible, Book of Job 1:21 The land was promised and given to you plus a set of rules. You broke those rules by <deleted> around. You`ve got kicked out by God. No claim anymore. Specially for Jews in Thailand. :))

Seriously? Pointing out the enormous impact of Israel on the most important aspects of your (US) society makes me a Nazi??: 1. Government: see my AIPAC comments Think about Trump was going to cut funds for disaster from states that boycott Israel. Did you ever ask yourself who really benefitted from all the money spent and all the American lives lost in wars in the middle east? Did you really believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and even if so, that he could by any means pose a threat to the USA? Are you sure your last presidents were Trump, Biden, Obama and the Bushies? Or was it more likely only one person all the time? One person with the original family name Mileikowsky. 2. News media partially owned by Jews like Bloomberg 3. Entertainment, where all Hollywood studios are founded by Jews. Ever asked yourself why the "baddies" are mostly middle eastern? - what a coincidence "Back to the future" Oh look, a Keffiyeh or in "True lies" again a Keffiyeh, so now I know how to tell if someone is a bad person "Iron Man" Keffiyehs again? What is wrong with these people? All we did was invading them and killing Hundreds of Thousands to find a terrorist leader, whom we found years later in a neighboring country. Not to mention all the other series like JAG, NCIS, Homeland and movies like Taken and Taken 2 and so many more. The Indigenous Holocaust in the US took 13 million lives. The Jewish Holocaust in Germany took 6 Million lives-. How many Jewish Holocaust memorials are in the US? More than 300 museums and study centers plus thousands of additional memorials, such as monuments and markers, How many Indigenous Holocaust memorials are in the US? Zero But telling you that makes me a Nazi, right? You really should stop letting others doing the thinking for you. But I guess you can`t, as your brain was perfectly washed and sealed, incapable of questioning things no matter how clearly corrupted they are or even ask a simple question like "whom am I not allowed to criticize in my own country?"

And I was referring to the 40.000 innocent Israel deliberately killed. No, they just want the land back which was stolen from them. It is the Israelis, who stole their land an created an ethno state from Jews for Jews as you can read in their basic law. So from an ideological point of view, the chosen people are much closer to the Arian Herrenrasse then anybody else on this planet. Of course we do. I don`t care about terrorists. They deserve it. I care about innocent women and children which are intentionally murdered by the IDF, which turns the IDF into a terrorist army, the most monster army on the planet

So you are saying, Israel is too stupid to check trucks for cement and steel reinforcement? And by the way, was that tunnel system so extensive. I am still waiting for video proofs about those 450 miles of tunnels and those 4 floor command centers under the hospitals, from which Israel provided only a computer animated sequence and a list of Hamas terrorists on the wall which after translation was only a calendar.

To put this into perspective: Hamas wrote in their doctrine that they want to eradicate Israel, but later corrected that, however their goal is to get back the land that was stolen from them. They never called for the killing of Jews in general, as their enemy is Israel. A majority of Palestinians voted for Hamas in 2005, since then no more votes. The average age in Gaza is 17. Meaning most present Palestinians never voted for them. And to say that Hamas knew exactly about the consequences of their attack on October 7 cannot be used as a justification of the mass murder committed by Israel since then. Same as the sometimes used quote "Don`t poke the bear" . Imagine you are at some beach with wife and kids and suddenly some bikers show up acting inappropriately. If you walk over to ask them to act differently and they beat you and your family into coma, and later the police tells you "Well, you had it coming" or "don`t poke the bear", would you just accept that?

Thank you for revealing your intellectual status and moral compass. Well, actually it was one guy and he was from Austria but yes the Holocaust was committed by Germans But why the negativity as you have shown your admiration for the Nazis quite a few times? Am I? Do you realize that you are calling for the mass murder of people who have never done anything that might have hurt you while at the same time you are supporting a country which has corrupted the media and leadership of yours? Your entertainment sector is Jewish, your mass media is controlled by Jews and your government is bought by Israel and they don`t even try to hide it. You have invented modern Israel brown nosing. Explain one thing to me. If you compare Israel to the US and look at: Rate homicides per 100.000 : 1,6 to 5,7 suicide rate : 3,7 to 14, 8 life expectancy: 83 to 78 stock exchange ytd % 28 to 7 debt per capita 37.000 to 104.000 How come YOU are sending Billions to THEM, every year?

Sorry but this is just untrue. Hamas or Palestinians NEVER restricted the delivery of food. It was Israel, the IDF or just some low life Israelis who stopped the trucks at the border and threw the food on the streets. Israel has been calibrating hunger in Gaza since it was given back to Palestinians in 2006 or to quote a senior adviser to the then prime minister, Ehud Olmert "The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger." An Israeli court ordered the release of documents showing the details of those macabre sums two years later, proving that Israel allowed only 2279 Calories per Person to make sure they get only the absolute minimum. Only the thought of one country controlling the amount of food for the people of another country is sickening, yet this goes on for decades mostly unknown to the western world due to the silence or the silencing of western media. But the starvation right now did not start with the war, it started with the total blockade since last May by Israel. If that "Hamas steals food" theory was true, and it is not much more than a theory as Israel has as usual not provided a single proof, why wasn`t there a famine before? The famine in Gaza is man made, it was intentionally caused by Israel to facilitate their planned land robbery. So their forever lie "the people without land came to the land without people" might finally somehow come true.

That is one of many Zionist propaganda lies to justify their starvation war crime. And it could be easily debunked - no facts needed, just an unbiased mind with a neutral moral compass. Think about it, Israel claims that Hamas steals the UN food, sells it overpriced to their own starving people and uses that money to buy weapons, right? Then why not flood the place with food, so there is more than enough and no one needs to buy it from Hamas? Oldest trick, economy lesson 1, if you want to destroy competition, which has a popular product, sell the same product for much cheaper until the competition is bankrupt. Dumping. Would that not be better instead of letting that food rot in all those trucks waiting at the Gazan border? And less cruel?

Yeah! Exactly, those 20.000 kids, many of them targeted by snipers, those 20.000 women, those 1400 aid workers, some executed and buried like those 15 last March, those 274 journalists, all world records, by the way, all of them were the new Nazis? Right. I haven`t been chasing down Jews at any time, neither was my grandfather. And as much as you Zionists would like to label any criticism against Israel as hate against Jews, to label the critics as anti-semite, everybody, most of all Jews, know very well that this is just another propaganda trick. Trust me, I`d love to. But as long as innocent people are slaughtered with weapons from my country by the orders of my Nazi government, I can`t. Look, I am well aware, that I cannot convince you with facts, as your sense of moral superiority rests on ignorance. Your moral arrogance has given you a waiver of being interested in the details let alone the truth. Facts and their unbiased analysis should lead to conviction. You put conviction first (Israel good, Palestine bad) and then choose only those few facts (October 7) that might back it while intentionally ignoring those many facts (mass murder, total destruction and starvation plus land theft since October 7) opposing it. Fine, live in your little bubble and keep complaining, why everybody is so unfair towards poor Jews. The world thinks differently. Here we go again, pigeonholing, labeling, branding. You wouldn`t if you had useful facts and arguments. I might recall one or two, when you suggested nuking Muslim countries. Out of your deepfelt love for them of course.

Don`t expect any answer or at least one making sense. Bassem Youssef explained it perfectly. After watching this clip, you`ll understand why it is sometimes so frustrating to debate with these Zios.

Do you seriously believe that the UN, Oxfam and almost every human rights organization is bribed by Hamas. A resistance group, that cannot even afford some modern rockets or weapons, let alone tanks or jets? Is there no other possible explanation for that in your universe?

Thank you for proving my point. I asked you to show me a single Jew hating statement I made, as you had accused me of posting lies and Jew hate. And THAT is your answer. No surprise for me. Do you even realize the stupidity in you post "let`s feed the Gazans, what YOUR lot fed the hostages." As usual smearing by putting me in the same pigeon hole with Hamas, which is a quite common Zio strategy, making the world believe that one MUST pick a side and with criticizing Israels atrocities one does automatically side with Hamas as if it is not possible to generally be against brutality towards innocents. But to suggest to feed Gazans what the hostages have been fed is hilarious. I mean, yes, what else are they getting? Gazans are actually eating what Israel allows in and so do the hostages. YOU are the one who us lying repeatedly. Again, were are those Jew hate posts of me? YOU promised in the other thread to comment on Daniella Weiss, which you never kept. Nothing unusual for a Zionist. Nothing is off-limits when it comes to protect the promised stolen land and the people on the brink of committing extinction. THE WORLD SEES YOU NOW!!

Bla bla bla. When will you honor us with that answer you have been promising for days now? You know, about that Israeli angel (of death) Daniella Weiss.

We can argue what's the truth but show me a single Jew hate, I posted. Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic. https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/ Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.” To guide IHRA in its work, the following examples may serve as illustrations: Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits. Now, where is my Jew hate?

You live in a simple world. Everybody criticizing Israel is pro Hamas. And therefore bad, and a liar and whatever evil you want to see in them. It will never cross your mind, that they might be telling the truth. Israel and Israelis are the most innocent, lovely and honest and peace-loving people on our planet, not capable of the slightest wrongdoing and anything or anyone opposing that is a liar and bad person. with despicable ancestors despite not knowing anything about him you smear him as .. Do you realize, that the things you say about others, say much more about yourself? That bubble you live in blinds you, making you unable to see that your defense of Israels atrocities actually creates more antisemitism. After those leading Nazis were executed in the Nurnberg trials Germany understood that the only way to survive was uncompromising investigation and unflinching disclosure of all Nazi crimes, yet generations later we still have that stigma. But Israel and the Zionist colonial settler movement keep stealing land, keep murdering women and children, keep slaughtering innocents and people like you keep defending the indefensible. And all that is better documented than any mass murder before. No way of rewriting history. Israel, the western media and the bribed western leaders who would rather send money to Israel than to keep it as a local disaster fund for their own people, the are doomed. All of them. And so are those stupid enough not to see how their leaders work for Israel instead of for their own people. While Israeli leaders are laughing at you. While Israel is protecting those who raped kids in your countries. Go on, defend that.

Let`s compare Freed Palestinians Freed Israelis Yup, the Palestinians look so much better. No need for that. Israel is torturing them for decades, even children and raping them. Seriously, just because I condemn mass murder and land theft you see Hamas as my brothers in arms? No better arguments to defend that Apartheit regime?

So Palestinians are low IQ people, who deserve to suffer as they are lesser humans, right? Heard that before. Not about Palestinians. About Jews. From a guy with anger issues. With a little mustache. But comparing Jews with a bear, and bears do have a lower IQ than even the most dumb people, is new. Little mustache man called them rats.