scott1999

If you and your ex have 50% parental responsibility how is her family able to stop you seeing your child when the mother isn't there? surely that is criminal in itself? These half sisters have no parental power. Usually the court will give visitation to the mother if the mother turns up and requests visitation. You should be able to get main custody as you have been seeking this and she abandoned the child. What do you mean 100% sole custody? I know sole custody can include visitation to the other parent but what is the 100%? does that mean the mother wouldn't have visitation?

Hi cjchoas

(If you and your ex have 50% parental responsibility how is her family able to stop you seeing your child when the mother isn't there? surely that is criminal in itself?)

Very good question. It is because firstly: I could not find my daughter. Secondly: when I did find my daughter, court proceedings had commenced and I could not prove the mother was out of the country.

Thirdly: After the compromise contract made in court with me and the mother on the 24th of Jan 2012. The mother appealed her own agreement to the Appeals court then the Supreme court. Which in affect made my daughter king maker till the appeals had finished.

(What do you mean 100% sole custody?)

In the agreement of the 24th of Jan 2012 it states that any party who does not follow the agreement will forfeit 100% physical custody to the other party.

main points of the agreement.

1: My daughter goes to a school of my choice as I have 100% education over my daughter.

2: My daughter to receive said condo from the assets of the marriage.

3: A mentioned car to be signed over to myself so that it can be sold as marriage asset.

4: Mother is free to sell one condo from marriage assets.

"​What has the mother complied with from the compromise contract? O of course only number 4."

What I mean by 100% physical custody is the mother will still have 50% parental powers but I have 100% educational powers. Which means only I can sign her in or out of any school. Plus with 100% physical custody it is up to me and only me where my daughter lives and sleeps.

(does that mean the mother wouldn't have visitation?)

In the compromise contract it is up to my daughter who she spends the school holidays with. As it has never been my thinking to stop the mother seeing my daughter. "For me to make sure my daughter has a good to great education opportunities here in Thailand and later overseas. Plus have a safe living environment and be free to see all her family with out being pressured into anything from anyone, even me. Is what I want for my daughter."

As my L.O.I. States and by the way I am getting the best help from the best brains from Thaivisa in getting best prepared for the 25th of Feb when of course I will be making the best case I can for my daughter to be able to have a mother and a father in her life with out the heinous parental alienation which she and I have had to endure over the last three years.

Thanks again for your questions cjchoas, This (horror) story sound strange even to me. But these are the facts.

Thanks Mario some nicely simplified points you have made I will not rewrite but just take out my sentences and add yours. As yours say the same as mine but with less words, and your words are clearer. Mario you know the goal. Say as much as possible as clearly as possible, with as least words as possible. That you Sir for help in my matters.

Update the mother as I was writing this post the mother has sent me via Facebook proof that she is out of the country.

mother

I will tell you how good I do not know you're hurting children. Sent from Leicester, England, United Kingdom.

me

oops your mobile has just told me where you are. You should check the settings if you want to keep secret where you are. So you will not be in court on the 25th?

Tips for dealing with an Alienating Parent!

Things That DO NOT WORK!

WAITING - That means waiting for things to get better, waiting for the alienating parent to get over his or her upset or to become more reasonable, or waiting for the children to come around on their own.

NEGOTIATING - Alienating parents are not interested in negotiating because they will not consider anything that deviates from their own agenda.

MEDIATION - The process of mediation can only work if the parties involved enter into the process in good faith and with the purpose of finding a mutually agreeable solution based on compromise. The alienating parent is not interested in compromise anymore than he or she is interested in negotiations.

ATTEMPTS TO REASON WITH THE ALIENATING PARENT - Many targeted parents invest tremendous energy and time in attempts to convince the alienating parent that what they are doing is harmful and unfair to the children and themselves. This is a complete waste and in most cases, it actually makes things worse because it provides more opportunities to create conflict.

ATTEMPTS TO APPEASE THE ALIENATING PARENT - This can never happen since the alienating parent is driven by a desire to destroy the targeted parent.

Hi Mr. P.

Take your own advice, the AP words are meaningless and are only designed to slow you down. Good luck with your kids and try and have some fun with them.

Good luck man I think the year of the Horse could be your year!

Thank you eezergood, "I do hope so" and happy new year to you too! It's 41 days till the hearing at Juvenile court, But I'm not counting! Ha ha ha. Thanks again for your support.

Super article Mr. P. You are learning very quickly about this subject.

I hope you are well and rested for your up and coming duties, relating to your children?

I am sure your children will have a better future because of your support and understanding of this situation.

It may not seem a total win, but the way I read it your daughter will at worst have to be enrolled at your school of choice.

Is that right?

Things move so slowly it is unbearable. I hope things improve on the 24th to 27th.

Good luck.

Thanks rhodie

for your support in this matter. Holidays are always hard. But this holiday is very different from many before, because I can go to the court and the Ministry of Education, and the police to fight my corner. So of course I would love to see my daughter, but I must try to make sure she is not put in the middle to choice for herself. Because from my experience, the child will mostly do what the alienating parent wants them to do. Because the alienating parents love is not unconditional and of course the child is in fear of losing that love.

Anyway I am off to the court this week and will update.

Thanks rhodie

for your support in this matter. Holidays are always hard. But this holiday is very different from many before, because I can go to the Juvenile Court, Ministry of Education, and the police headquarters to fight my corner. So of course I would love to see my daughter, but I must try to make sure she is not put in the middle to choose for herself. Because from my experience, the child will mostly do what the alienating parent wants them to do. Because the alienating parents love is not unconditional and of course the child is in fear of losing that love.

Anyway I am off to the court this week and will update.

I must proof read my posts before pressing the ADD REPLY button, sorry for my spelling and grammar mistakes.

It may not seem a total win, but the way I read it your daughter will at worst have to be enrolled at your school of choice.

Is that right?

Things move so slowly it is unbearable. I hope things improve on the 24th to 27th.

Good luck.

Thanks rhodie

for your support in this matter. Holidays are always hard. But this holiday is very different from many before, because I can go to the court and the Ministry of Education, and the police to fight my corner. So of course I would love to see my daughter, but I must try to make sure she is not put in the middle to choice for herself. Because from my experience, the child will mostly do what the alienating parent wants them to do. Because the alienating parents love is not unconditional and of course the child is in fear of losing that love.

Anyway I am off to the court this week and will update.

Sorry, I can't ever see you winning this one.

But you get 'A' for effort.

I wished you would have a merrier Christmas. There seems no end to it, but never give up. It is simply not an option and in the end the mother and her family will have to comply. And who knows, the court might decide that there might be a Santa Claus after all.

Am just flabbergasted Paul.

Its all surreal to read ur quest for the right thing for ur daughter and urself.

Good luck !

Thanks Mario and Mr. P.

I do understand how the court is behaving. They never want to give soul custody to either parent. That is why they have the term 100% physical custody, because the latter term does not take away parent power from either parent.

Michael and I have come so far now quitting is not an option. So Christmas is gone again, so what, I'm used to it.

I am doing what I have to do, Never give up never surrender. Ha ha that quote from one of my favorite movies galaxy quest. And I won't !

Let the court give the mother's side more chances, I hope it works. But the court cannot say that I will not get 100% physical custody, only to say not yet, OK ! Understand.

As I get older I can look back on myself, with a more true full understanding of who I am and was. Something was very wrong with me to be attracted, to a certain type of person.

I was over confident about myself. how I have been taught a lesson. Ha ha,

Anyway this is so my daughter can have a mother and a father. Plus the best start in life for my daughter in this ever more challenging world.

I will get there I promise, One day closer.

Thanks to every one for your support or your comments. I do hope this horror of a thread will help people in the future.

I will meet with my lawyer tomorrow, so I will update next week.

Sorry, I can't ever see you winning this one.

But you get 'A' for effort.

Thanks for you comment, I will hold off on the verdict for just a little longer.

Small up date. The judge has refused for now my request for 100% physical custody. On the grounds that he wants the mother,s side to have more time to comply with the compromise contract dated 24th of Jan 2012 , that she then appealed, in the appeals court and then the Supreme Court.

So if they comply and take my daughter to the new school, I the father will not get 100% physical custody. OK I am fine with that.

If they don't take my daughter to the new school at some point in the near future I will get 100% physical custody..OK I fine with this too.

Next week I will be putting in new requests to the Juvenile court. Of which they must give me an answer in 5 working days

Not much wiggle room for the mother's side now.

If they take my daughter to the school, they lose the power of alienating her from me.

If they do not take her to the school they lose 100% physical custody to me.

Not exactly a win win for them.

I do hope they start to do the right thing so my daughter can have a mother and a father.

Sorry its is not better news, but it's just the truth as it happens.

Thanks again for all the great support from the people here at Thaivisa.

I will be having Christmas at the Juvenile court this year, the 24th 25th 26th and 27th in the hope they give me so good new about my requests.

PS I have a meeting with my lawyer tomorrow so as of now I don't know 100% what the requests will be to the court next week.

Hi Scott,

I hope everything is going to plan and you are still focused. Was there any movement on the 2nd?

Keep that chin up!

Hi rhodie

I do feel a bit down being father's day yesterday and all. So I do tend to go a little quiet and withdraw into myself. But it's nothing to the pain my daughter must be feeling. Anyway father's day has gone now and I am happy about that.

So here is the update: My lawyer in his wisdom went on the 3rd of November. Now this is were things get lost in translation and culture differences. But the gist of what he did was to

1 Ask the Judge to just grant me the 100% physical custody because the mother has shown such disrespect to the court. (Judge has to answer this request in 5 days)

2 Summons the mother to the court for her explanation of why she has not followed the compromise contract of the 24th of Jan 2012.

So I am only guessing here, so the Judge can just finish this case by giving me the 100% physical custody next week, or give the mother one more chance to explain her actions. In which case the mother will be summoned to the court. The date of this I should know next week. I hope?

Thanks again rhodie and everyone for your support in this matter. It will finish soon I promise!

OPPS sorry I missed a Month , the lawyer went to the court on the 3rd of December, SORRY sorry sorry

Hi Scott,

I hope everything is going to plan and you are still focused. Was there any movement on the 2nd?

Keep that chin up!

Hi rhodie

I do feel a bit down being father's day yesterday and all. So I do tend to go a little quiet and withdraw into myself. But it's nothing to the pain my daughter must be feeling. Anyway father's day has gone now and I am happy about that.

So here is the update: My lawyer in his wisdom went on the 3rd of November. Now this is were things get lost in translation and culture differences. But the gist of what he did was to

1 Ask the Judge to just grant me the 100% physical custody because the mother has shown such disrespect to the court. (Judge has to answer this request in 5 days)

2 Summons the mother to the court for her explanation of why she has not followed the compromise contract of the 24th of Jan 2012.

So I am only guessing here, so the Judge can just finish this case by giving me the 100% physical custody next week, or give the mother one more chance to explain her actions. In which case the mother will be summoned to the court. The date of this I should know next week. I hope?

Thanks again rhodie and everyone for your support in this matter. It will finish soon I promise!

Hi Mr P

At least you know they are ok, you know from your research that your children would turn on a sixpence if they were with you.

who pays the 8000bht?

Hi fifty two

The mother's side paid for two years of schooling at the Thai school total 32,000. My lawyer has said my ex-wife could try and take me to court for half of the money in the future. But then he said that would leave her open for me to counter sue , and it's a bit more the half of 32,000 bt, It will never happen.

Who is paying for the current boarding school?

Who will be paying for the next boarding school?

Hi Fifty Two

I will give you only one guess? ha ha ha

Who is paying for the current boarding school?

Hi again sorry miss read your post, at this moment my daughter is in a thai private school 8,000bt a term no English. She is living with ? I am not 100% sure but I have many photos of my daughter with my Ex-wifes Ex-husband. This is my and the courts worry, Who is she with?

Who is paying for the current boarding school?

Who will be paying for the next boarding school?

Hi Fifty Two

I will give you only one guess? ha ha ha

Very true Mr. P.

How about my favorite

Once more into the fray.

Into the last good fight I'll ever know.
Live and die on this day.
Live and die on this day.

But I may have to steal your one Mr P very good very good.

I'm a bit confused.

Will, after all this, your daughter be physically living with you at your home 100%. And all decisions be made by you.

The school and inlaws confused me a bit.

Hi Patsycat

In the compromise contract 24th of Jan 2012 , Which this fine morning comes in to force. States that I have 100% education, but the school I choose must be a boarding school.

The courts thinking was because the mother openly said she will live in England and because my daughter was showing fear of me in the court room. By throwing her hands up to her face to hide from my sight. Then with in 30 mins would be asleep in my arms in front of the judges and my witness to this is Michael a mod from Thaivisa.

By being a boarding school it would be a safe place for my daughter to be, if she wants to stay there. But my daughter can choose at weekends who she wants to be with. But also in the week she can go and stay with me as my condo because it is close to the school. "UP TO HER", was their thinking.

But since the compromise contract the mother has run a muck with the two failed appeals and the denying me of any access. She will lose almost any rights over my daughter when I get 100% physical custody in the next 2 to 4 weeks IE the court will now summons the mother tomorrow for a date I will learn tomorrow. At that hearing if the mother shows up or does not show I should be granted 100% physical custody. Which means I must follow the compromise contract of 24th Jan 2012. But because the mother did not follow the contract I get 100% physical custody where by only I get to choose who my daughter can stay with at any time.

PS I never waited the boarding school in the agreement . But the mother was 100% for it. We now know why, she always planned to appeal her own agreement and thus gain time to fully alienate my daughter from me. But her timing was out, because it only took 20 months to get through the Appeals court and the Supreme court. So she gambled and lost and she will have to pay the price, IE I will get 100% physical custody.

Sorry for such a long reply but was needed to explain the reason behind the boarding school being in the agreement.