I know one and he says there are others there, and they aint coming back - Thailand blew it and now it is too late. His point is why come back and only have the same sort of sheitee happen in 2 years. Life is too short. No 90 days in Philippines, no Tm30, can leave and come back anytime, and they say annual renewal is a doddle. And much more Philipinos speak English than Thais. Has a bit of a Yankie feel to it too - like Chiang Mai and somewhat Udon Thani.