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Two state solution? It's a nice thought but it's wishful thinking. A two-state solution is the West’s latest luxury belief (msn.com)

Last known to have collapsed. Since then, no contact to anyone. Presumed dead. Putin is giving Stalin a run for his money.

She would be wise to flee the country before she trips and falls out of a high floor window.

Yes cynical deflection that smells of another variation of October 7 denialism.

I call BS.

Too bad. Israel isn't going anywhere.

Again the Palestinians don't want a separate state. They want River to the Sea.

There are numerous Islamic and/or Muslim dominant states in the world. There is only the one very tiny, very vulnerable state of Israel. The global population of Jews already relatively tiny was severely damaged in the holocaust. Imagine what global Jewry would be like now if those people had lived. Israel exists because the Jewish people who are indigenous people of Israel had so many horrible experiences in the diaspora for thousands of years. Pogroms, mass expulsions, etc. It makes me extremely angry to hear people even remotely hint or suggest that Jews don't deserve even ONE yes TINY nation state! Israel isn't going anywhere. Most Israeli Jews were born there.

There is not majority support for a two state solution on either side. Good boy,

Stop lying. They do want their own state. Sure. MOST want one state with the Jews gone. As it seems you do as well with your insipid suggestion about Jews going to the U.S. I know this is hard for you to process -- but Israelis have no good reason to trust Palestinians not to crush them if they ever get that power. A fully sovereign Arab state without Israeli security overview, with Iran obviously going in to make them a military power, would be a nightmare for Israel. You might love that -- but Israelis can NEVER agree to that. Period -- end of story. Maybe just maybe (very unlikely) an agreement could be put in place that Israelis would accept for the security situation transition to take place over several decades. But I doubt it. Look what happened to Hong Kong. To also add to the silly "progressives" that see this in white colonialist terms: The Jewish people are indigenous to Israel The vast majority of Israelis were born in Israel. That is their HOME. Israel now has a strong majority of Mizrahi (non Ashkenazi) Jews. Israel is a very diverse country. Israeli Jews are very diverse and of course there are also the 20 percent non-Jewish Arab Israeli citizens.. But overall now Israel is truly a Jewish majority MIDDLE EASTERN country. NOT a European country in the Middle East. The dominant food is Middle Eastern. The dominant music is Middle Eastern. Etc.

Yes. So obviously these two peoples need to separate. But as there isn't majority support on either side for a two state solution, most likely this mess goes on for generations to come. Even when there is support for a two state solution, important details are not even close to potential agreement. For example, Israel can't possibly agree to a fully sovereign Palestinian state unless it is baby stepped in over decades (over security concerns). October 7 cemented that reality. To those who say, that isn't fair, is it fair to expect Israelis to fully empower a neighbor dedicated to their destruction as Israel is such a TINY country? Would your country if it had the power, ever allow such a horror? To expand this further, even IF a ruling Palestinian entity says OK, we really respect Israel's right to exist, are there any rational grounds for Israel to believe that as anything more than a ploy to get the power to crush Israel later?

Yes yet another example of how complicated this conflict is.

What peace would a fully sovereign Palestinian state that still has a River to the Sea ideology plus full military support of Israel have?

Yes and in 1948 many of the Arabs were recent economic migrants to the mandate from the pan Arabic world. An example of the complexity that Israel demonizers ignore. Nakba yes but never any acknowledgement of the Jewish Nakba.

Just say Jews. You're not fooling anyone with the Zionist cover game

So cheerleading for Hamas again.

Study the complexities of the conflict much more if you expect people to take you at all seriously.

That would be the super simple minded analysis of one of the most complicated conflicts in human history. I expect nothing more than that from you.

Israelis don't want a two state solution either and if you learn about the history of the conflict you would understand very well why that is a reasonable POV. Of course lip service for a two state solution has been the only game in town for several decades. Again, it's hard for a lot of people to process but it's really true. There is no long term solution in sight -- PERIOD. Sometimes reality happens to be dark and depressing.

The entire premise of this topic is moot. Being an expat and an economic migrant are not mutually exclusive.

At least he doesn't claim to be Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico.

No there isn't. Well informed people that are in touch with reality know that. You and your ilk imagine there is a quick and simple minded answer to one of the most complicated deeply ingrained conflicts in history. Dream on.

Back to what rational people believe -- there is no permanent solution in sight. PERIOD.

My big decision moving here (long ago) was between Jomtien (greater Pattaya) and Chiang Mai. I had enough boots on the ground experience with both to make an informed decision. While I like the Chiang Mai a lot and the expats are more in general closer to "my kind of people" I have never regretted my decision. Pattaya even after the horrible Covid years which was a Black Swan international phenom, keeps getting better and better.

No but it's kind of silly to broadcast strong opinions based on nothing.