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Nope. On social security income there is strong consensus that it is not accassable in Thailand. If you happen upon a provincial TRD clerk saying it is, you can know they are wrong. On IRAs and 401ks with Thai tax advisors that back up their assertions with evidence of discussions with credible TRD staff, I have found a consensus. Withdrawals from such retirement accounts are viewed as private pensions in Thailand if remitted. If you're a tax resident of Thailand such remittances are accessable in Thailand. As a Thai tax resident, only Thailand has a right to tax those, not the U.S. For one example, you withdraw 10K USD from a Roth IRA (already not taxed in the US). That 10K if remitted while a tax resident of Thailand is fully accessable. There is no relevance to the balance of that IRA account before 2024. There is no relevance if that 10K came from selling one stock in the IRA with basis of 8k with a 2k profit. It's about the FULL 10K. There actually is a consensus on that as far as Thai taxation advisors. Yes there is at least one forum member voice here saying differently, but so far no reports of any Thai tax advisors countering the consensus position I have described. I would welcome that consensus to be credibly challenged with backup from TRD but unless and until that happens, I think the most sensible position for the typical retired American expat is to take the consensus view as the one to act upon.

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This is a can of worm topic which I'd rather not get into. However, I like to think in terms of a typical Thai person instead of average. I do think I'm more knowledgeable than a typical Thai person in a general way, but a typical Thai person is much more knowledgeable than me about Thai specific stuff.

Again, not savings. Pensions. We're on different planets on this. I'm going with the at least current MAINSTREAM interpretation. Your theory though you back it up, in my curent understanding, lacks mainstream Thai tax advisor agreement. Again happy to be corrected. I will be starting a dedicated thread about U.S. private pensions (IRAs and 401ks) based on a PCEC video but it won't be about your theory. It will be about further questions about the mainstream reading which I have been merely repeating. You know, you may indeed be "right" but if TRD doesn't think you are, what difference does it make?

Yet other than your opinion about Por 162, I doubt you will be able to cite one Thai tax advisor that supports your reading of that. But I would be happy to be proven wrong about that. People should realize the mainstream reading at this time is that disbursements from IRAs Roth and Trad, and 401Ks are fully accessable if remitted (but under the DTA not subject to U.S. tax). Nothing about reading them as pre 2024 "savings" and nothing about considering the underlying investments WITHIN them as if they were regular investments outside of retirement account/pensions.

My reading reflects a consensus of tax advisor advice confirmed by TRD. .

They are. Remittances taxable only by Thailand.

IRAs are pensions according to TRD. I've documented this before.

Pensions aren't savings.

Private pensions are covered by the USA-Thailand DTA. Accessable in Thailand. Not taxable in the US (you need to to take action to make that happen in the U.S.).

I'm not confused about those things but perhaps you misread what I posted. Yes, disbursements from private pensions remitted to Thailand are full accessable in Thailand. The balance of such accounts (IRAs, 401ks) before 24 completely irrelevant. Thailand classifies those as private pensions. In the US we would call them retirement accounts. Do what you want. No skin of my arse.

I've heard from multiple tax advisor sources. It's more than an opinion. Also backed up by an interview with a senior TRD official. Just because you want those to be seen as savings by Thailand, doesn't mean they are. Of course you are free to just never report such disbursements, but then you may have some big fun if audited. Again balances pre 24 in US retirement accounts are NOT SAVINGS. The savings loophole is about cash money in bank accounts. I don't like this any more than you do, but I prefer to accept reality.

It seems so. 401K withdrawals are accessable (taxable) income if remitted to Thailand. It's irrelevant what your balance was before 24. Under the DTA, IRAs trad AND Roth and 401Ks are seen as private pensions in Thailand. NOT SAVINGS and NOT REGULAR INVESTEMENTS (where tax basis profits are relevant). Not taxable in the US but taxable in Thailand under the DTA which is interesting as 401ks and trad IRAs withdrawals are taxed in the US normally. Source: Expat Tax Thailand

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Bernie isn't a democrat.

Once a criminally corrupt grifter, always a criminally corrupt grifter.

I guess all those millions of 150 year olds that Trump and Musk keep lying about are going to need to go digital. What could possibly go wrong?

Anyway, nobody with any credibility actually believes Putin actually wants the proposed cease fire or a potential later real long term peace respecting Ukraine as a sovereign nation. His goal remains the same -- total control of all of Ukraine (with a puppet government possibly even better for him) and beyond. Any BS that Putin would be happy with a "neutral" Ukraine is pure cloud cuckoo land stuff. Think what Putin gets controlling Ukraine. The best drone program in the world. The best army in Europe. The chance to murder all opposition. Flooding Europe with millions more refugees destabilizing Europe to an extreme degree.

Putin (looking ridiculous) seems to be saying the POWS will be murdered. Nothing new coming from his military. I suppose Putin won't even entertain any kind of "negotiation" before he can end Ukraine's bargaining chip in Kursk.

700 baht? If I was gonna dine and dash, I'd go for 700 dollars.

Yeah the same total MORON who continues to claim millions of Americans over age 150 are getting S.S. benefits. He and Mr. Trump are Putin adjacent lying machines.

So the kid is neigh curious.

So what must Putin cede?

I know the magas will groan but I'm posting this item from an American expat in Ecuador as it roughly fits in with the general topic of possible issues with social security abroad after Trump 2.0. How to restore your Social Security payment if it has been been suspended - CuencaHighLife www.cuencahighlife.com/how-to-restore-your-social-security-payment-if-it-has-been-been-suspended/